Alan Gottlieb And Support For Manchin-Toomey
BY Herschel Smith11 years, 7 months ago
David Codrea weighs in with an analysis of Gottlieb’s support for Manchin-Toomey, along with a number of links to reactions. There is this:
But really, all this is just arguing over dancing angels and heads of pins — the only acceptable answer for hard core gun owners is going to be “No,” and arguments about “goodies” and “Christmas tree ornaments” are hardly going to be persuasive to men and women who take their Bill of Rights seriously, because they know it was secured with powder, lead, steel and blood.
Read it all at Examiner. This is the reaction of most serious firearms owners. Witness reddit/guns and one commenter:
… nothing except removing NFA regulation for SBRs, SBSs, and suppressors, repealing the post ’86 full auto ban, and full 50 state CCW reciprocity would make me even VERY BEGRUDGINGLY support this bill.
The bottom line for me is unless you’re a prophet or son of a prophet, you don’t know how all of this will be interpreted and applied by armies of lawyers, judges, law clerks and law enforcement across the states. The mere fact that so many good minds are coming up with so many different interpretations and potential problems doesn’t bode well for the law. I warned you about this.
Finally, here is the most serious warning. I work with the federal government on at least a semi-regular basis, and when not, I am doing things that follow federal regulation, even though highly technical (the specific nature of what I do is not the subject and won’t be discussed).
For most people who never work with federal agencies and departments, ignorance is bliss. But for those who do, they know that the nasty little secret about the federal government has to do with lawmaking by regulation.
Laws are passed by the Senate and Congress. But after laws pass, thousands of lawyers inside the beltway go to work writing regulations based on those laws, or not, using the law as a pretext for further regulation that Congress didn’t specifically intend. At times, Congress has even had to pass laws undoing regulations because the regulations don’t meet the intent of the law, and yet the executive branch won’t stop enforcing that regulation (or class of regulations).
Regulation is passed merely by entering them into the federal register, allowing a waiting time for public comments (which are nothing but a chance afforded to the authors of the regulations to ignore them or write sarcastic rebuttals), and then after the waiting period, it takes on the force of law including prosecution, fines and imprisonment for failure to follow them.
This happens every day, all over the nation, and in the DOT, NRC, EPA, DOJ, ATF, DHS, and other departments and agencies that the reader cannot even name and didn’t know existed. Any law giving the executive branch the authority to further regulate firearms will be an opportunity for abuse, overreach and exploitation.
Take it from someone who has seen it. Don’t trust the Leviathan. It is a monster and it has monstrous intentions.
This law doesn’t deserve the support of any serious gun owner. It empowers the Leviathan, and as I have warned you, don’t trust the Leviathan. If you do you’re a fool.
On April 15, 2013 at 9:53 pm, Justin said:
Absolutely.
NO.
Everything else is just debating over how to mug us.
On April 16, 2013 at 9:59 am, bubba said:
Gottlieb tried this super secret stuff in WA state earlier this year but fortunately it didn’t pass. A couple of conservative democrat legislators decided to caucus with the republicans instead of their liberal urban party members and that swung the vote our way, otherwise the King Co communists might have handed all kinds of abominations to us.
It’s quite possible that this is the last year for liberty in WA and next year will bring us the same kinds of bills we see passing in CO, NY, MD, CT and elsewhere. There is only one answer to Tyranny and gun regulations: No, never, not one more new law and remove all the unconstitutional laws on the books right now.