If You Own Guns You’re A Racist!
BY Herschel Smith
11 years, 1 month ago
That’s what the experts say, anyway.
Racism and guns go together.
That’s the finding of an international study released Thursday that says the two are linked. More specifically, odds are greater that a racist white American also keeps a gun at home and opposes gun control regulations.
The conclusion wasn’t too surprising for researchers at Australia’s Monash University and Britain’s Manchester University, which sought to better understand American gun culture.
“There had already been research showing that … blacks are more likely to be shot, so we thought there must be something happening between the concept of being black and some whites wanting guns,” Monash researcher Kerry O’Brien said in an email to the Daily News.
He also found that political leanings and geography play a part into firearm ownership.
“It is particularly noteworthy that the relationship between symbolic racism and the gun-related outcomes was maintained in the presence of conservative ideologies, political affiliation, opposition to government control and being from a southern state, which are otherwise strong predictors of gun ownership and opposition to gun reform,” said the study, published in the scientific journal PLOS ONE .
Notice that gun control is called gun “gun reform,” as if there is something currently wrong with guns (guns are machines, humans make value judgments, and while some of us in the gun community would agree that the laws need reforming, the reformation we want means reversing things like the Hughes amendment). And notice that this is called a “scientific journal,” not worthless fish wrap. It’s all sounds oh so smart and sophisticated.
As a professional engineer I find reference to “science” in this context pitiful and embarrassing for the authors. If they want to do science, go solve a system of second order differential equations. They’re just playing at politics. And finally, take note of their presuppositions: “There had already been research showing that … blacks are more likely to be shot, so we thought there must be something happening between the concept of being black and some whites wanting guns.”
Blacks are more likely to get shot. So there you have it. Whites who own guns must be the ones doing the shooting and therefore they’re racists. They call that “science.”
On November 1, 2013 at 11:20 am, Paul B said:
Yes, let us flat ignore the fact that 99% of the blacks that are shot are shot by other blacks.
Let us also not mention the number of whites that are shot by blacks.
Just like Islam is the only religion of peace, only the blacks can be not racist by color.
On November 1, 2013 at 11:59 am, Archer said:
That article is so full of fail they’ll need a dumpster to catch the excess.
It explicitly states that reported gun ownership is highest among whites and that “gun violence” disproportionately affects blacks – leading the assumption that racist whites want to shoot blacks they view as “violent” – but it only passingly mentions that the overwhelming majority of black homicides are perpetrated by other blacks (“Black-on-black homicide rates would benefit most from gun reform….”).
It also totally fails to account for the “self-sufficiency” side of gun ownership – having the means to care for and provide one’s own self and family – which additional studies would likely show is a trait found more commonly in whites. I’d not be surprised in the least if there are several other factors it overlooks as well (this was just the first to pop into my head).
Nope, it can’t be that. It must be racism.
On November 1, 2013 at 12:07 pm, Herschel Smith said:
It’s apparently what they teach kids in the universities nowadays. And this “researcher” probably got *.au government grant money to do it.
On November 1, 2013 at 1:50 pm, Texas TopCat said:
All part of the MAIG messaging guidelines. Never let truth or honesty interfere with your agenda. It makes no difference who gets hurt as long as we can use it to further our agenda, no guns for citizens and everyone must depend on the government for protection (except of course our members).
On November 1, 2013 at 3:13 pm, McThag said:
My gun is black, therefore cannot be racist; thus doesn’t need to be reformed.
It is known.
On November 1, 2013 at 4:28 pm, Mad Rocket Scientist said:
Keep in mind that PLoS One is the journal you publish in when no one else will even bother to look at your work.
On November 1, 2013 at 4:36 pm, scott s. said:
The key may be the reference to “symbolic racism”. Never heard of that one, but a quick search suggests it is a liberal attempt to find racism when you can’t really see it.
On November 1, 2013 at 6:32 pm, Archer said:
@Scott S.:
Their definition of “symbolic racism” seems to be similar to differentiating one’s own “tribe” from “others.” The same trends would (and do) appear whether running the numbers from white respondents, non-white respondents, or even breaking non-whites down into individual ethnic groups. Ergo, the article’s focus on white Americans is meaningless.
Makes you question the racial bias of the authors, though.
On November 1, 2013 at 8:11 pm, jawn said:
The leftist propaganda is strong these days…take it as a sign that things might not be going so well for them…
The true racists are the black leaders who ignore the 12,000 or so black on black and everyone else killings since trayvon martin….and the black leaders who preach that blacks could end up on a literal slave plantation again…and in their next breaths tell these ancestors of slaves to give up their guns…or for draconian gun laws which only hurt good black folk,leaving them disarmed in violent liberal cities…
Like trayvons mom campaigning against stand your ground laws…which only hurts black people…because in those 12,000 murders…think of the thousands of black people using stand your ground laws for defense…Since many murders are black on black in the Usa…blacks actually use stand your ground laws at a higher percentage rate than all other races…which….(drumroll)
Once again only hurts black people….if stand your ground laws were done away with….
Same thing with abortion and the racist founding of planned parenthood and the negro project which was designed to get rid of the “undesirables”and mainly black people….Read about the negro project…then ask yourself why Americas first black christian president is for abortion….and then ask yourself why over 70 percent of abortion clinics are in liberal neighborhoods…which….(drum roll)
Only leads to less black people in the world…Sadly why anyone who is black is a democrat is beyond me….Micahel moore said white people were racists and arming themselves against blacks…I will never forget the very next day after him saying this….two black teens about 15 years old shot a white mother in the leg pushing a stroller and then shot the baby in the stroller dead..
You know who is arming themselves against black violence…good black people…I know…because they tell me about black violence because they moved to my “creepy white cracker”neighborhood to be safe….
All the left has is literal propaganda….The right doesnt even to lie or distort anything….All we have to do is tell the truth…and hope the left wakes up and leaves their democratic slave plantation….
On November 1, 2013 at 8:42 pm, Ned said:
Good post, Herschel.
Went to PLOS ONE and read the “study.”
I learned, if one starts with a premise, supplies a bunch of spread sheets and horseshit gobbledegook, your “study” will be universally accepted by nutcakes if it’s published at a “scientific journal” such as PLOS ONE.
Here’s the Wiki entry about PLOS ONE:
“It covers primary research from any discipline within science and medicine. All submissions go through an internal and external pre-publication peer review, but are not excluded on the basis of lack of perceived importance or adherence to a scientific field. The PLOS ONE online platform employs a “publish first, judge later” methodology, with post-publication user discussion and rating features.”
OK – just publish clearly flawed bullshit in a “peer reviewed” publication down under, and you will immediately be taken seriously by a plethora of morons.
Remember, never underestimate the power of stupid, uninformed people in large groups. Oh yeah – never mind the little fact that gun control itself was racist. A simple way to disarm recently freed slaves.
I bet the first thing the freed slaves did was try to obtain a firearm. Now it seems that the most vocal Jewish and Black “leaders” are anti self-defense.
I guess the statement that no one went broke underestimating the stupidity of the (American) public was correct. Looks like it applies equally to the people on the island against whom we fought a war for independence. Along with the folks on their Australian penal colony. Of course the “progressives” du juor (or whatever the hell these commie, anti-freedom idiots call themselves nowadays) believe the same crap without reservation.
I suppose that it’s actually possible that the hoi polloi are actually becoming stupider, against all odds.
On November 2, 2013 at 12:18 am, Samuel said:
This is another reason why people shouldn’t just commission studies without fully understanding all the parameters of the subject they’re studying. Owning a gun a racism are two very independent things that they’re trying to link using some data they’ve gathered.
On November 3, 2013 at 12:11 pm, revjen45 said:
I wonder if these PC cretins have solicited Colion Noir’s opinion on this.
On November 8, 2013 at 6:07 am, elaine said:
“…blacks are more likely to be shot…”
…by other blacks.
FIFY
On November 8, 2013 at 7:15 am, Mt Top Patriot said:
This”scientific study” reads exactly as the Nazi party would write such lies about it’s enemies and people it is imposing pogrom upon.
It is uncanny how as time passes, the regime in washington takes on more and more the structure of fascism.
This is agitprop on an industrial scale.
First create a false narrative that guns are evil, then mutate that lie into those who cling to their arms are the worst people on earth, then with that lie established you have “legitimate” justification to take their arms and do what you want with them.
No tyrant or system of tyranny in history has ruled over a people without first dis-arming the people. The tyrants ruling over us must be rid of the guns people own.
The Tea Party is to tyranny what the AR15 is to tyrants. They are afraid it will be used to assault them. They are afraid, because of what will be done to them for what they are doing to America.
I hope the tyrants are very afraid. They should be afraid. No tyrant worth his salt would discount the threat to his reign guns in peoples hands represent.
What is happening is nothing less than a strategic attack upon the plurality of Americans who are not afraid, nor have bent a knee to the power of the tyrants behind this war of tyranny upon our Liberty.
On November 8, 2013 at 7:58 am, Fen said:
“blacks are more likely to be shot, so we thought there must be something happening between the concept of being black and some whites wanting guns”
Gee, I guess there could be no other reason why blacks are more likely to be shot? Are these “scientists” really so stupid?
On November 8, 2013 at 8:37 am, KellyFromMesquite said:
How precious! Look at all this fact slinging trying to overcome all this liberal agenda!
On November 8, 2013 at 9:34 am, I R A Darth Aggie said:
“Let us also not mention the number of whites that are shot by blacks.”
Yes, because that, as a percentage, is about the same as the number of blacks killed by whites: ~10%.
The Uniform Crime Reports collected by the FBI show that for the most part:
blacks kill blacks
whites kill whites
others kill others
Yes, they have an “others” category. In fact, if you are going to die due to foul play, you most likely know your assailant.
On November 8, 2013 at 12:14 pm, Saber Alter said:
Now I’m beginning to see why respectable scientists sneer at Plos One. It has the reputation as being a dumping ground for trash papers that would never see the light of day if they underwent peer review. (Not that peer review doesn’t have problems of its own, but it does still filter out a lot of junk. This is one of the junk papers it filters)
On November 8, 2013 at 3:34 pm, © Sponge said:
I believe a vast majority of the shooting of blacks is done by other blacks. So, if that’s the case, isn’t this article actually pushing for the disarming and banning of gun ownership by blacks?
Racists…..
On November 9, 2013 at 10:17 am, SFC MAC said:
Does that study go for all the black gangsta thugs who own guns in places like Chicagoland?