Indiana Pastor Arrested For Threatening Children With A Gun
BY Herschel Smith
8 years ago
NEW CASTLE, Ind. – An Indiana pastor is charged with threatening to shoot neighborhood children to keep them away from his church.
The (Muncie) Star Press reports (http://tspne.ws/2eh5K8T ) that 69-year-old Bobby Slagle of New Castle’s Calvary Baptist Church is charged with felony intimidation and misdemeanor resisting law enforcement
According to a police report, Slagle said he was frustrated about vandalism at his church in New Castle, 50 miles east of Indianapolis.
New Castle police say Slagle “advised the kids that if they did not get off his property he was going to shoot them.” Police say Slagle raised his shirt, showing the children a revolver in his waist band.
The report says Slagle struggled with arresting officers. He waived his right to an initial hearing. A judge entered not guilty pleas on his behalf.
Well, riddle me this, readers. What’s the difference between ISIS destroying churches throughout Mesopotamia, and gang members destroying them in America?
Right, it looks very bad, and I wouldn’t have done it, and he shouldn’t have either. It was a dumb move. He’ll no doubt pay the price for his dumb move.
But listen to me on the implications of this, if you will. Be prepared for more of this to come. Muslims will come to be very militant in America, as gang members are now. Perhaps even more so.
For those of you who are part of congregations who own church buildings, what are you going to do when your property is vandalized every week, or eventually burned down? Do you put 24-hour security on the physical plant? Are you going to be part of that security? If so, what do you do when the property is threatened, and the gang members (I’m sure they weren’t “children”) figure out that comporting with the law you’re unwilling to use lethal means to stop the aggression, and there are too many of them to do anything except call the police and wait the fifteen minutes for them to arrive and find no one?
If this is the way it all works out, you may as well not have security. Or church property. Or for those of you who aren’t Christians but who own homes, perhaps your home is the same as that church property.
Such is life when society lurches towards dystopia.
On October 13, 2016 at 7:17 pm, Alec Bell said:
Why, on reading that excerpt, long before you’d even suggested the same, was my first thought:
“children … kids”, you keep using those words, but I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
So, probably, a bunch of 18-26 year-old gang-bangers, tatted and tooled up and … the pastor is the one arrested? For ‘suggesting’ and showing he was armed? Not drawing the weapon, not pointing it, not shooting the ‘little innocent darlings’? Suggesting, in self-defense … because we all know if he wasn’t carrying he’d be in the ER or morgue now.
Ah yes, SSDD!
There, as here, the problem isn’t even the idiotic ‘laws’ it’s the biased, bought and sold individuals ‘applying’ those laws at fault. there ‘will’ be ‘an incident’ and what they don’t realize is that ‘ it wont just be the perpetrators held accountable’ but ‘those who ‘ condone, collude and abet’ too.
me? I’m going long on piano wire – it’s a certainty!
On October 14, 2016 at 11:00 am, Ned Weatherby said:
Obviously more to this story than the MSM nooz reported…
On October 14, 2016 at 6:02 pm, Billy Mullins said:
I’m with Alec Bell. I doubt any of the “children” were under the age of 16 years – more likely 18. As for the charge of “felony intimidation”, well, in Texas we have a section on Chapter 9 of the Penal Code (chapter 9 is the part of the cde which specifies when/where use of force is justified.)
Chapter 9 Section 4 reads:
The threat of force is justified when the use of force is justified by this chapter. For purposes of this section, a threat to cause death or serious bodily injury by the production of a weapon or otherwise, as long as the actor’s purpose is limited to creating an apprehension that he will use deadly force if necessary, does not constitute the use of deadly force.
You folks may not know it, but “Presence” and “Voice” are the low end of what is called the “force continuum”. Telling a trespasser to depart the property is a use of force and it is justified. Therefor, in Texas, the Pastor’s defense would be that he was only trying to put the “fear of God” into those young hoodlums. I suspect that he would have no problem with paying the fine for resisting. Unfortunately, this was in Indiana and I suspect they are almost as much of a victim state as neighbor, Illinois.
On October 20, 2016 at 8:43 am, Keith Perkins said:
Looks like none of the commenters read the article and are just “assuming” a lot. We all know what assuming does, right?
From the article:
“New Castle police said the events leading to the pastor’s arrest began
about 5 p.m. Monday, after Phillips – outside Calvary Baptist Church,
2700 S. Main St. – allegedly threatened a brother and sister riding
their bicycles to nearby Baker Park.”
Two kids riding bikes don’t sound like gang bangers to me.
There is not even any evidence that the kids were involved in the vandalism, or that the vandals are gang members, or even persons of color. Which you all are assuming, again.
Maybe check your preconceptions?
On October 20, 2016 at 10:17 am, Herschel Smith said:
The specific details of the individuals in the case don’t much matter to me. What matters to me is the larger discussion I tried to engender.
On October 20, 2016 at 10:48 am, Keith Perkins said:
Like turning kids into gang bangers, and militant Muslims? Christians burn Christian churches all the time, as well as mosques. It’s a big jump from someone with some obvious mental health problems (someone from the same neighborhood even stated that in comments to the original article) showing kids (who’s race none of us know) a gun to scare them, and defending your property against imagined attacks. Note that most church burnings in the US have been of “Black” churches by white males not Muslims, or gang members.
People talk about Obama and the MSM fomenting racial unrest, but what I see is a fear of the other, right here, that revels in it.
I came here for the firearms news, and tutorials, not to argue about race, and religion, in America, so I guess I probably won’t be back, because I see our views clash.
On October 20, 2016 at 10:55 am, Herschel Smith said:
“Christians burn Christian churches all the time …”
What are you talking about? Do you even know?
On October 20, 2016 at 12:14 pm, Keith Perkins said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_arson
Are you willfully ignorant?
On October 20, 2016 at 12:30 pm, Herschel Smith said:
You said “Christians burn Christian churches all the time.” Christians. All the time.
Christians. All the time.
Prove it. Compare and contrast with what has happened to the Christian church in Mesopotamia and the Coptics in Egypt.
On October 20, 2016 at 5:57 pm, Keith Perkins said:
Don’t know why I need to show proof of anything, since you didn’t prove anything in your blog post, just used conjecture and hyperbole to make your point. Prove the kids were part of a gang. Prove that Muslims are going to be militant in the US.
But here’s an example for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_East_Texas_church_burnings
And the KKK has been burning (black) churches since the reconstruction.
So don’t tell me that christians don’t burn churches.
On October 20, 2016 at 9:13 pm, Herschel Smith said:
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2016/10/20/carrying-out-the-trash/
On October 21, 2016 at 6:47 pm, Ned Weatherby said:
So – a link to people who are satanists burning churches shows that Christians burn churches. Apparently the douche nozzle didn’t read his link.