‘Ghost’ Handguns And ARs Confiscated
BY Herschel Smith5 years, 1 month ago
Ridiculous news from a reader.
A Port Washington man hoarded more than two dozen guns and assault rifles — including about a dozen untraceable “ghost guns” — and thousands of rounds of ammunition in his home, Nassau County police said Saturday, the day after his arraignment on weapons possession charges.
Nassau County police, State Police and the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force arrested John Dejana, 47, following a search warrant Thursday at his home on Slocum Avenue, authorities said.
Dejana, who had no licenses for any of the weapons, was charged with first-degree criminal possession of a weapon, police said. He was arraigned Friday in First District Court in Hempstead, where bail was set at $200,000 bond or $100,000 cash. He could face up to 25 years in prison if convicted, Nassau County District Attorney Madeline Singas said.
“We took these weapons … out of the home of someone who should not possess those weapons,” Singas said. “This defendant possessed an arsenal of firepower. This is deeply disturbing this firepower was in a home in Port Washington in our county.”
The FBI investigation and Nassau intelligence officers recovered 27 weapons including 12 ghost guns, five assault rifles and 10 other long guns and handguns, Nassau County First Deputy Police Commissioner Kevin Smith said.
Ghost guns are classified as untraceable guns without serial numbers, or those that may be untraceable. Some guns are assembled through kits or 3D printers and may not be detectable through metal detectors, Smith said.
“I can’t tell you what he may have planned for all these weapons,” Smith said.
Authorities unveiled the haul of weapons and 3,000 rounds ammunition Saturday in Mineola to conclude “Operation Ghost Gun.”
Dejana, who has no prior criminal record, worked as a contractor and lived in the home with his wife, four daughters and two dogs. Detectives recovered an unloaded handgun with a plastic magazine and a pink Louis Vuitton holster in his 12-year-old daughter’s nightstand, police said.
Well, maybe he just liked guns. Maybe he was a collector and didn’t have the money to purchase NFA machine guns like he was rich. Maybe he was planning to shoot competitively. I don’t know his plans either, and it’s none of my business.
Contractor. I assume a hard working man. No criminal record. Didn’t bother anybody.
Um … they do realize that the world’s best machinists, fabricators, builders, chemists, metallurgists and engineers live in America, right?
You can’t stop the signal.
On October 10, 2019 at 12:05 am, streamfortyseven said:
“They also seized a body armor vest, several large bags of marijuana and various vials and pills of anabolic steroids, they said. Authorities said Dejana purchased parts online, often used the weapons at firing ranges and showed off the guns on multiple posts online. “When he wasn’t allegedly building guns in his home, just two blocks from an elementary school, he was flaunting them in hundreds of posts on Facebook.”” https://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/ghost-guns-assault-rifles-arrest-1.37171984
The operative language here is “he was flaunting them in hundreds of posts on Facebook.” Bad, bad idea. Facebook is a Panopticon and it is used aggressively by the State to detect and interdict activity the State finds to be dangerous. *All* information you put on Facebook is public and may be freely used as evidence against you in a court of law.
As to the laws themselves and the governments that enforce them, they’re a travesty of the Bill of Rights, but governments only follow them when it is convenient to do so. And absent citizens willing to fight for their rights, they’re quite free to do so.
On October 10, 2019 at 5:52 am, ragman said:
Advertising what you have is a bad idea anywhere but is really a stupid idea if you live in one of the Peoples Republics. Someone a whole lot smarter than l am please explain how a state, specifically New York, can decide not to honor a federal gun law. The one that says a Citizen can transport a firearm through a state if it is locked up and inaccessible. As for 3K rounds of ammo, that is a good start.
On October 10, 2019 at 8:00 am, Frank Clarke said:
3,000 rounds worries them? I don’t believe I (personally) know anyone who (a) has more than one gun and (b) keeps fewer than 3,000 rounds handy.
Forget it, Jake, it’s Appleville.
On October 10, 2019 at 8:47 am, Houston said:
This:
The operative language here is “he was flaunting them in hundreds of posts on Facebook.” Bad, bad idea. Facebook is a Panopticon and it is used aggressively by the State to detect and interdict activity the State finds to be dangerous. *All* information you put on Facebook is public and may be freely used as evidence against you in a court of law.
Bad Opsec. Plus the drug stuff. However I personally do not trust reporting these days and all of that could be wrong. Could be he is innocent and could be set up.
On October 10, 2019 at 9:13 am, Mike miller said:
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What exactly was his “crime” ?
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On October 10, 2019 at 9:17 am, Fred said:
Noted is that they didn’t go to a drug bust and find weapons, they went to a weapons bust and found drugs. I don’t see the drugs as antithetical to the point of this post. That, presuming the drugs are not planted or made up.
And why, oh, why, is the FBI busting somebody for activities that are not federally illegal? You may not think that there is a federal Red Flag law but apparently, there already is, in practice.
There’s something hinky, as they say in NY, with this, and it’s more than NY simply needing to make an example.
On October 10, 2019 at 9:54 am, Badger said:
“Crime” was bad judgement. Beria (if recalling correctly) said “show me the man, I’ll show you the crime.” Stalin is smiling.
On October 10, 2019 at 12:18 pm, DrDog said:
To those about ‘bad optics’, tactically you are right. Play silly games, win stupid prizes.
Strategically you are missing the point. In a time not long past what this gentlemen did was considered bad form only because it was crass bragging. Such behavior was not considered criminal, just low class. We are ceding the public square to the authoritarians without even a whimper.
On October 10, 2019 at 12:26 pm, Chuck said:
What was the original crime? Why was he being investigated? What is meant by a license for said weapons? Do they mean NFA or is this some type of NY bullshit?
“Dejana was also found with 30 illegal ammunition magazines, including a double-barrel magazine that can attach to a rifle and fire 100 rounds of ammunition.”
A double-barrel magaz… what the fk?
On October 10, 2019 at 12:42 pm, Bill said:
47 year old man acting like a child on facebook… Good riddance…
On October 10, 2019 at 1:33 pm, scott s. said:
My guess: Zuckerberg trying to keep the federal hounds at bay opens up the facebook kimono to FBI “counter-terrorism” to show what a good citizen he is. The feds turn to NY state police who have plenty of laws to get gun owners. I can’t recommend any gun owner passing through NY or NJ with a firearm, regardless of GOPA or other federal assurances.
On October 10, 2019 at 1:46 pm, Sunny said:
And we wonder why those of us who wear “patriot” or “constitutionalist” or “pro-2nd Amendment” labels are taken down one at a time? While the rest of these so called patriots say ‘Good riddance’?
THIS is how they do it! They love it when we start nit-picking and throwing each other under the bus. And they are loving this.
As to fb – I finally dumped them last night. They are working for the government, well, the part of the gov that is trying to destroy this country.
On October 10, 2019 at 3:51 pm, Ned said:
So the “crime” appears to be possessing some guns in New York. I don’t care about some steroids or some dope. Although it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that this make marijuana legal crap in various states was a way to arrest people with guns. Like you can have one but not the other. So choose wisely.
I do care about these swarms of government agents eating out our substance.
Guy didn’t get that the first rule of gun club is don’t talk about gun club. Especially when behind enemy lines. I see this all the time on Twitter. People showing off their AR15 builds, etc. Could easily have been a “friend” who dropped a dime on him.
On October 10, 2019 at 4:59 pm, Longbow said:
“He’s acting like a Free Man! Quick, stomp on him!”
On October 10, 2019 at 5:37 pm, tonare said:
Quit using Facebook and/or any other major social media platform.
On October 10, 2019 at 7:55 pm, Jaque said:
Its standard practice for government agencies to create a giant spectacle out of nothing. They send Swat teams to investigate a facebook post in Weston Florida. They send the bomb squad and evacuate three schools because an old lady brought a bucket with magnesium filings and glycerin to the fire station for disposal. This week police held community training with other LEO agencies on how to stop bleeding using tourniquets, something cops should already be trained on. It was a public show of look at us and we need more funding for n case we run out of quick clot. The average schmuck sees this and says yeah, raise my taxes for this when the informed see this as a dog and pony show and wasted tax dollars. This is just another case of law enforcement wasting money to show the public how good they are in protecting the public with their fancy tools and highly trained investigators. Of course every agency in the region also gets involved so they can give each other awards and justify a larger budget for next year to enlarge the bomb squad or get high tech neutron particle detectors to sense explosives from a mile away.
We know how little volume a thousand rounds of common caliber ammo takes- a shoebox and less with .22. But the idiots hear this and think it took a crane and 10 ton truck to cart it off. Ghost guns ?? Its perfectly legal to make guns at home for yourself under federal law. But in the communist states of NY, NJ, and others killers get lighter sentences than a guy with a box of 9 mm defense ammo. The lesson is simple. Dont post your wares and tools anywhere and don’t show them to anyone. Not a friend or neighbor or even a wife. Its risky going to any range because you will be captured on cameras with your wares. We live in a police state and surveillance state. Every gun part purchase made with credit card is being tracked as is ammo buys. We are one election away from a Stalin like America. In fact the whats being done to our president is straight from Stalins playbook. Gun owners are next