What Is Muzzle Discipline?
BY Herschel Smith
11 years, 1 month ago
Four law-enforcement officers were wounded Friday in a suburb of Sacramento, Calif., during an attempt to take a wanted gang member into custody.
The shooting occurred in Roseville, a suburb about 20 miles northeast of the state capital.
Helicopters circled overhead and armored vehicles and other police cars flocked to the area following an initial report that a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent had been shot.
A sporadic gun battle lasted into the night and the commotion snarled traffic for hours. Police responded by setting up a checkpoint and pointing guns at motorists, as this Associated Press photo shows.
I have sent a note to the California Highway Patrol demanding to know why this officer hasn’t been arrested and charged with endangerment and assault with a deadly weapon (which includes perceived threat as well as potential danger). I asked that they not respond that “the officer is observing trigger discipline,” because that’s not a good enough excuse for me. I would have been arrested and charged with a crime.
I’ll let you know if I get a response, but I’m not holding my breath. The CHP apparently allows criminals to work in their ranks. I wonder how this guy would feel if he received a Christmas card in the mail of his picture shown through a high powered scope, cross hairs centered on him?
On October 28, 2013 at 10:14 pm, Mark Matis said:
You know EXACTLY how he would feel, and what the Blue Wall would do. I would hope anyone doing any such thing would make VERY sure there were no fingerprints on the card or the envelope or the stamp or ANYTHING else that might go with the item. After all, the vast majority of those who are offended by such conduct swore an oath to the Constitution as part of their current or previous job, and were also fingerprinted. One had better bet those fingerprints have been digitized and are readily available to the Blue Wall, especially for cases such as what was postulated.
On October 29, 2013 at 7:15 am, Roger J said:
I think the cop has a new toy and this is his way of being a tough guy. He was ticked off because he was stationed on the perimeter instead of being in on the action. Why these guys don’t enlist and get some real action in the land of sand, I don’t know…well, I do know – it’s so much safer to point a gun at a terrified driver who just happened to be passing through.
On October 29, 2013 at 7:23 am, GunRights4US said:
The solution to 1984 is 1775.
On October 29, 2013 at 8:48 am, Paul B said:
I think I would have to tell that office to point his weapon else where. I REALLY don’t like it when they do that.
You are correct that the officer should be charged. Not that it would do much in Kalifornia.
On October 29, 2013 at 10:21 am, Mark Matis said:
This cop, Roger J, is typical of ALL cops in the CHP. If he was not, he would no longer be working there. If there were any honorable cops in that agency, they would drive his ass out. And for those few who claim they cannot do so because there aren’t enough of them who are honorable, if they really WERE good cops, they would turn in their badge and find another job.
On October 29, 2013 at 10:25 am, Paul B said:
BTW, Whose the chubby checker in full battle rattle on the other side of the car, His trigger discipline is not obvious but his muzzle discipline is and it is not good either.
On October 31, 2013 at 9:41 pm, Doug Deaton said:
The officer in this photo is not aiming his weapon at the driver in the vehicle. Even the photographer who took the picture has confirmed this. Here is a detailed explanation of what is actually occurring in the photo:
http://tinyurl.com/kq6xd7s
On October 31, 2013 at 10:46 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Doug,
What an absolutely, positively, dumb ass discussion thread. I’m going to leave it up so that readers can see the lengths which LEOs are willing to go to exonerate their own. Blue wall.
Here is a tip for you. Would I have been arrested for brandishing a weapon if I did that?
Now. Here’s another tip. Go read Tennessee versus Garner again.
On November 2, 2013 at 5:49 am, Randy Bard said:
Instead of spatial angles of the gun, which can be skewed very easily to get the angle you want, look at the officers stance and where his elbows are at. Stand next to a car in the same stance holding the gun in the same manner with your elbows in the same place. NOW tell me where the gun is pointed.