Kenyan Pastors Ask For Guns
BY Herschel Smith
11 years ago
NAIROBI, Kenya — As attacks on Christians mount in Kenya’s coastal region, some evangelical pastors in Mombasa area no longer may be willing to turn the other cheek.
Worried about attacks against their churches and congregations, some pastors are asking for rifles to protect themselves from suspected Islamic extremists.
The violence intensified on Oct. 20 and 21, when two evangelical church pastors were killed inside their churches. Pastor Charles Mathole, 41, was killed Oct. 20 as he prayed inside his Vikwatani Redeemed Gospel Church. The following day, East African Pentecostal Church pastor Ibrahim Kithaka was found dead in Kilifi, about 35 miles north of Mombasa.
Christian leaders blame the attacks on increased radicalization of Muslim youth. The attacks have occurred amid protests by Muslims that they were being targeted in Nairobi’s war against terrorism.
“Our many churches are not under any protection. They do not have walls or gates. The government should issue AK-47 rifles to every church so that we can stop them from being burnt, our property from being looted and our pastors and Christians from being killed,” said Lambert Mbela, a pastor at Mathole’s church, during his funeral.
Good for them. A rifle is a better personal defense weapon than a handgun except where the barrel length is an impediment to CQB (although I would certainly choose to have access to both).
We are seeing more of that muscular Christianity where Christians defend themselves, the justification of which is something we’ve discussed here and here. And notice that these pastors aren’t attempting to make some sort of in-vogue or posh political statement. Hand wringing over what the elitists think of you is a boring, first world white people problem. These men are fighting for their very lives and to protect their flock.
Does the American Christian church care anything about churches across the sea and on the other side of the world? Does American Christianity care that the Syrian Christians are being slaughtered? My answer is no. When is the last time you heard a sermon on imprecatory prayers against the evil-doers and radical Islamists? When is the last time you saw a loud mouth American pastor of a mega-church take a road trip to Syria to visit fellow Christians?
We’re too busy navel gazing to do much of anything except be anemic and worthless. How about this. In order to show your affection for your brothers and sisters in Kenya, instead of having your next Presbytery or General Assembly meeting where you can glad-hand your admirers and have your worthless committee meetings and be elected to this post and that one, cancel the meetings and arrange to carry weapons to your Kenyan brethren. Otherwise, shut up about “Christian love.” If we’re going to be running guns to the Christians in Kenya, sign me up to go with you. I’ll put my money where my mouth is. We need to carry a bunch of them in order to counter the guns Obama is running to the Islamists.
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On October 31, 2013 at 2:50 pm, Paul B said:
Just read a decent novel about asymmetrical war fighting. You could do a lot of damage with a couple of 30-06 rifles and some armor piercing rounds.
I have been thinking how I could raise this at my church. If we do not stand together we will be hung separately.
On October 31, 2013 at 6:23 pm, DAN III said:
I’m Roman Catholic. But I don’t follow the leanings of American Catholics toward abortion and tyranny per soetoro-obama and bad Catholics like Pelosi. American churches won’t stand against soetoro-obama. Why would they stand in defense of Kenyan churches ? I’m more interested in American Christians saving our country from the Marxist in the West Wing than I am saving Kenyans.
Why Mr. Smith do you want to draw attention and American blood to ANOTHER foreign land ? You should be advocating the “going to guns” by Patriots in this country against traitors here. Instead you appear to want to embroil us in another foreign venture. Oh….and FYI….Kenyans are not oir brothers and sisters. Nor are you my brother.
Mortgage your home and send the money to Kenya. Pack your bags Mr. Smith. Go to Kenya and offer up your blood. Leave the rest of us out of that shithole. And BTW….leave the “we” out of it. I’m sick and tired of this crap folks like you tend to spew.
Now how about you posting the flight information for your forthcoming trip to Kenya ? I won’t hold my breath.
On October 31, 2013 at 6:36 pm, Herschel Smith said:
What a disappointing post Dan. Where in any of this do you see embroiling us in another foreign venture? Really. It’s a serious question.
I can walk and chew gum at the same time. I am a brother to any man who is truly a Christian, U.S. or not. What I asked the so-called pastors of America is why they don’t care about other Christians. And what I offered up are my services to smuggle guns.
And how long have you been a reader and commenter here, knowing what I advocate about patriots and preparing for the coming doom, and then you ask me why I don’t do such and such?
Again, I can walk and chew gum at the same time. The only American blood that would be spilled is if I get caught along with whatever pastors want to smuggle guns with me get caught. No armed forces. No foreign ventures. No wars. Simply arming Christians against the forces of darkness like radical Islamism.
I sincerely hope that you simply had a little too much to drink tonight and got a little hot headed. Go back and read the article again. And yes, you’re right about American churches not standing against totalitarianism here at home. Yet another example of being anemic. And I’ve somehow failed to point out how America has not held the collectivists accountable? Really? Really?
“Crap folks like you tend to spew.” What crap Dan? Who are folks like me, Dan? I said I’d like to smuggle guns to Christians to defend their lives, Dan. What crap? Be specific, Dan.
On October 31, 2013 at 7:25 pm, DAN III said:
Mr. Smith….you used the word “we”, meaning numerous Americans. You wrote of intervening in the internal affairs of another nation. You called on American churches and their congregations to “defend” folks in another land. My how the Pentagon would love an excuse to “rescue” folks like you and your fellow Americans from potential demise in Kenya. We’ve been so involved in East Africa for the last 20 years that we now have an Africa Command. Perhaps you’ve forgotten the debacle in Somalia known as Blackhawk Down ?
I was appalled by this essay of yours imploring Americans and their churches to take up arms and go to Kenya. Good Lord Mr. Smith. And you think I’ve been drinking ??? I cannot believe that you penned such an essay as the above.
When I wrote of “your ilk” I meant folks such as you who put the affairs of foreigners in higher regard than your countrymen. You are willing to run arms to Kenya. But you aren’t willing to run arms and magazines to folks in D.C. You are not willing to call for the end of tyranny in NY State under the Marxist Cuomo. I’m not a fan of foreign involvement by America or it’s citizens, private or otherwise. Simply put, I’m sick and tired of this .gov and citizens like you, more worried about foreign nations than the implosion forthcoming OUR country.
While American police militarize and kill 13 year old children and 24 year old women who have not threatened them, you want to go to Kenya and help Kenyans. Seems to me we have all we can handle here with the new form of American terrorism. But hey folks….what about those Kenyans ?
Although your intent is admirable it is also misguided. Sadly, I do wish I had been drinking as you suggest. Unfortunately, my reaction to your essay was not the result of a drunken stupor. Rather my response was utter disbelief that you would put to pen such an ridiculous idea while our country is falling down around us.
Enjoy your flight.
On October 31, 2013 at 7:30 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Dan, you are confused. You have a very forgetful mind. I didn’t bring attention to a 13 year old, did I? And I didn’t call on N.Y. to reverse course, did I? And I didn’t call on Remington to move South, did I? Again, you are forgetful or have very selective memory.
Just like Arctic Pilgrim who I blogroll, I am a Christian. The government of Kenya is no more legitimate than the N.Y. government if it harbors Islamists and prohibits Christians from having guns to protect themselves.’
As for running guns or magazines to N.Y., sign me up. I’ll drive there with you, and on the way you can ask me all sorts of questions about lawbreaking I am willing to do on behalf of Christians and patriots all over the place.
And in the mean time, I can walk and chew gum at the same time.
On October 31, 2013 at 7:55 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Thanks to David for the attention. At least he got the point.
http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2013/10/he-who-has-no-sword.html
On October 31, 2013 at 10:25 pm, Ned said:
Herschel: You can include me as a Christian in the “we” quote. People who don’t understand English usage may need to do some research into the “royal we” matter in the English language.
I’d elaborate, but it’s likely pointless. Besides, I had a drink after work. And I won’t engage folks who just don’t get it.
Good on you for posting this.
Christians, take notice.
For that matter, atheists and others, should pay attention as well.
On October 31, 2013 at 10:39 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Well Ned, apparently I can write 200 articles talking about the evil of universal background checks, the agents of Satan taking over America, the need for secession from the U.S., the need to buy guns, the need to stock up on ammunition, and so on. But if I pen one article saying that I’m personally willing to run guns to the Christians in Kenya, not committing anyone else or their resources, then somehow I am equivalent to the *.gov “ilk” who puts the concerns of others before patriots.
Shallow. Thoughtless readers.
On October 31, 2013 at 11:19 pm, Josh said:
Dan, you’re coming off as a self centered xenophobe. There is no more America. It’s gone, sir, and it won’t be back.
Those in DC who wish to procure weapons have the ability to do so, regardless of law. Kenyan pastors, however, do not. And they’re being executed NOW, not later.
Wake up. Slough off your idealogies. They’re worthless; only truth serves.
On November 1, 2013 at 7:28 am, Mark Matis said:
I agree with Mr. Smith.
On November 1, 2013 at 8:25 am, Paul B said:
I dunno, but I have never found anyone who put III after his name to be one of the sharpest tools in the drawer.
People who have hyphenated names get short shrift in my book as well.
And I occasionally say over yonder.
The pastor in Kenya did not ask for me to come help, he wants me to send him some guns so he can defend himself.
Personally I would imagine the perimeter security on one of the goon squads might be a little light and a sneak and peek could get me some of their guns.
Maybe we need to send the pastor some how to’s on Small unit tactics and LRP’s.
On November 2, 2013 at 6:32 am, Mark Matis said:
I believe you’ll find, Paul B, that the “III” in “DAN III” is not genealogical, but instead refers to the “3%”. Further info available at Sipsey if you’re not familiar with that.
On September 27, 2014 at 3:57 pm, 4True said:
I agree but it will difficult for civilians. Which is why the American and European (Christendom) armies intervened in the past when we actually cared about more than trends and tweets.