Open Carry In Lake Ozark (And Elsewhere)

BY Herschel Smith
10 years, 6 months ago

Lake News Online:

Shades of the Wild West on the Strip in Lake Ozark have prompted the Lake Ozark Police Chief and other city officials to tighten the rules on openly carrying firearms.

Chief Mark Maples told the board of aldermen Tuesday night he has received complaints that individuals are openly carrying firearms as they move from business to business. Maples said he recognizes that people who have conceal and carry permits have the right to carry weapons, but the open display of guns is causing some alarm.

“I don’t see why someone would want to carry a firearm in the open,” Maples said. “If a weapon is concealed it doesn’t cause any issues.”

The LOPD has had to send an officer more than once to investigate the complaint.

“It’s a real safety concern,” he explained.

As a result, the board gave first reading to an ordinance that prohibits people from openly carrying a firearm “readily capable of lethal use in a public place.” A public place is defined as any indoor or outdoor area ― whether publicly or privately owned ― to which the public has access. Exempt is a location used exclusively for a private gathering or personal use.

City Attorney Roger Gibbons said a city can regulate the use of firearms.

“We don’t want people to carry open firearms in the city,” he said.

Missouri is generally an open carry state, but the only allowable preemption is open carry.

Of course, Mark Maples is lying.  He certainly does understand why someone would want to carry a gun openly.  If he claims otherwise, tell him to order his officers to carry concealed.  And when he tries to explain that they are law enforcement officers, remind him that the Supreme Court decided in Tennessee Versus Garner that law enforcement officers carry their weapons for exactly the same reason that we do, i.e., self defense, which is the only legitimate use of a weapon by LEOs.

As for open carry being a “safety issue,” he’s just making things up.  Open carry is no more a safety issue than concealed carry, and if he has a problem with open carry because of “safety,” then he is lying about his alleged support for concealed carry.

As for the city attorney, his job is to represent the city in legal problems without prejudice.  Whether the city allows open carry is none of his damn business.

Folks, I know that there are those who prefer to carry concealed, and honestly I would prefer not to carry at all.  I don’t wear rings, necklaces, or jewelry of any kind, and it highly annoys me even to carry a wallet or my car keys.  I don’t like things on me, around me or weighing me down.  It’s a wonder I am able to go backpacking without throwing all of my gear down somewhere on the trail.  Staying alive is the only reason I don’t get rid of all of my gear.

And speaking of staying alive, I carry despite my desires, not because of them.  Tucking a gun into my waistband is about the most hideous thing I’ve ever tried to do.  It digs into my hip and I sweat the weapon.  It’s bad for me, and bad for my gun.  I much prefer concealed carry some other way (than IWB) if I must conceal.  But I don’t like to conceal, and find open carry somewhat less irritating than concealed carry.  Note that I didn’t say I like it.  I find it less annoying.

Since my desires in this matter are in line with our wise founders (who expected men to carry weapons to church with them and practice on Sunday), I feel that it’s my detractors who bear the weight of burden, not me.  My practices are in line with our history.

One writer from Michigan weighs in this way.

When a man was seen carrying a rifle down Cork Street recently, people called the Kalamazoo Department of Public Safety.

There is a national movement among some gun-rights advocates to carry their guns openly in public, arguing they are exercising their Second Amendment rights.

But at what point do those rights supersede the average citizen’s right to feel safe while also walking down the street?

Where is that “right to feel safe” written in the constitution?  Tell me, chapter and verse.  I’ve told you about the historical and constitutional basis for what I do.  Now tell me about your “right to feel safe.”  And stop complaining about seeing a gun on my hip.


Comments

  1. On May 19, 2014 at 8:49 am, David Wright said:

    I LIKE open carry. I like concealed carry. But I LOVE Constitutional carry, as in Arizona, Vermont, Alaska, and Montana (or Wyoming, not sure which). The Supremes OUGHT TO rule that it’s the ONLY proper way to follow 2A. I doubt they ever will, but it may be part of why we rise up again, in restoring our Constitutional Republic.

  2. On May 19, 2014 at 10:48 am, robertsgunshop said:

    I agree. Constitutional carry should be the law of the land. Like it was for a long time after that trouble with the King.

  3. On May 19, 2014 at 11:06 am, GomeznSA said:

    I think you hit the crux of the entire carry issue, if I remember right the carpet baggers (among others) were the ones who started the whole ‘right to carry (or not)’ issue – principally to keep certain groups from being armed and able to protect themselves. And then of course some of the several states figured out that they could make some extra bucks off of the ‘permitting’ process.

  4. On May 19, 2014 at 10:44 am, robertsgunshop said:

    I too am still looking for the “right to feel safe” in the Constitution. If we are going to make up rights, I should have the right to be showered with money every time I go out in public. Small bills are fine.

    I generally carry concealed, but here in Iowa we don’t have true concealed carry. Our permits are to carry weapons. I have to point out to the haters that the word concealed appears no where on it. I do occasionally carry open. I watch the people around me for their reaction. Most don’t even bat a eye. I don’t even get a second look at the local stop and rob.

  5. On May 19, 2014 at 12:34 pm, stu said:

    both montana and wyoming are open carry….

  6. On May 20, 2014 at 9:25 am, David Wright said:

    But one is Constitutional carry, as in no permission needed to exercise a RIGHT specifically guaranteed under the Constitution, openly or otherwise. Which one is that???

  7. On May 22, 2014 at 5:10 pm, Phil Ossiferz Stone said:

    Look into the Sneaky Pete holsters, broski. You can wear your gun outside for all the honest world to feel… they’ll just think it’s an iPhone.

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