Why Are The Anti-Gunners Such Racists?
BY Herschel Smith
10 years, 2 months ago
Black men are routinely shot down by police in the country, that’s the bottom line. And while it’s certainly admirable for open carry advocates to stick to their principles and defend John Crawford’s right to carry a toy gun around Wal-Mart, it’s failing to see the forest for the trees. John Crawford, Michael Brown, Kajieme Powell, Levar Jones were all unarmed black men
killedshot by police in the last few months. It wouldn’t have helped them to actually be carrying guns, real or otherwise.Surely these open carry people, however well intentioned, should realize that nice white men and women openly carrying firearms on the street aren’t being gunned down on sight by police officers. The worst thing that happens to them is they are forced to show their ID. It’s unarmed black men (and unarmed mentally ill people of all races) who are being gunned down on sight by police officers. Are they agitating for their right to shoot cops? I doubt it. Nor should they be.
The problem isn’t that people don’t have enough guns. The problem is that police are too often using the guns they have. That won’t be solved by a bunch of average suburban white people wandering around public spaces with their rifles slung over their backs. Those aren’t the people most likely to be shot by police –whether they’re armed or not. They’re missing the point entirely.
In addition to confusing the Ohio stop and identify statute, which is oriented towards a legitimate “Terry Stop” rather than just any happenstance desire for the police to know someone’s identity (meaning that the Ohio police didn’t really have a right to stop the open carriers), the author is the one that misses the point.
Read her logic again. Because – in her estimation – blacks are “gunned down” by police more than whites, the silly practice of open carry by whites is a meaningless contribution to liberty. It misses the problem of over-zealous cops. And while we can agree with the author about the over-zealous cops, we simply cannot agree on the notion that carrying weapons is a meaningless exercise of liberty and self protection.
The author would deny it, but her conclusion and end result is as racist as the Jim Crow laws in so many counties where the Sheriff reserves the right to deny gun ownership regardless of liberties and rights recognized by State Constitutions. They are all racist and need to go the way of the dinosaur.
Another example of racism came up today in Disqus comments that drove a little bit of traffic to this site.
Zoo critters are praying for the man in this article on this wingnut blog. They’re so gullible and so lazy that they don’t even realise they’re praying for a black man.
The commenter is talking about the article on Marvin Louis Guy who defended his life in a no-knock raid and now faces the death penalty in Texas. I didn’t realize he is black, so says the commenter. Then there is this soon after.
Oh dear. That puts them in a bind, doesn’t it? Tut, tut.
I can’t decide whether these comments were left by a feminist Sophomore international studies student at Dartmouth or scrawny boy in his mommy’s basement who has no job. I’ll assume for former for the sake of argument.
First of all, the only reason that someone would invoke the issue of race is because she is thinking about it. The only reason someone would think that gun owners and gun rights advocates would care about race is that they assume we are as racist and bigoted as they are.
For the record, I know his skin color. The man has as much right to defend his life as anyone else, and in Texas he has a right to defend life and property. Moreover, I don’t even care if the man was guilty of the crime of which he was charged (drugs). If he thinks that someone is breaking into his home in the middle of the night, he has a God-given right to defend his life and the lives of his loved ones. In fact, he has the duty to do so. What you will find if you peruse this and similar sites is a consistent objection to thuggish and overbearing police tactics. You will also find consistent support for the right to self defense regardless of race. Consider David Codrea.
I addressed that question in principle many years ago, on the pioneering (and long-discontinued) GunTuths.com website in an essay titled “What the Panther Taught the Eagle: A Modern Folk Tale.” It involved about 50 armed members of the New Black Panthers who were counter-demonstrating against the Ku Klux Klan in Jasper, Texas, after James Byrd, a black man, had been kidnapped by three racist whites, chained to the back of a truck, dragged for miles down a country road and decapitated upon hitting a culvert.
“The Panther’s historic affinity for Marxist dogma notwithstanding, their stand demonstrates the true meaning and power behind the Second Amendment’s guarantee that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” I wrote at the time. “The truth is, the Panthers applied the right to bear arms in exactly the way it was intended to be – in defense of their lives and their rights. Their presence deterred violence against them. They did not engage in unwarranted violence. Their stand should be applauded as an example by all who believe that this is a right of all free people.”
Consider also Kurt Hofmann:
What Sugarmann did not point out then, and is certainly not pointing out now, is that the vast majority of the murderers of African-Americans are also black (91.1% then, 89.4% now). In other words, Sugarmann makes an issue of the fact that almost 57% of black homicides are committed with handguns, while pretending to ignore the vastly stronger correlation of race. If the focus for reducing black homicide, then, “must” be on “reducing access to firearms,” then whose access must be reduced?
“No guns for negroes,” all over again, right in line with the shameful history of American “gun control.”
And shameful it is. All Jim Crow laws should fall. I am told that the opposition to open carry in South Carolina by powerful state senator Larry Martin was because those horrible Negros down around Charleston might open carry and thus affect the tourism industry in South Carolina. Larry Martin is an enemy of liberty.
Now on a personal note. As to being a “wingnut” blog and my readers being “zoo critters,” let me tell you something deary. I chew through people like you like I chew through a tenderloin. I enjoy it. You feel free to step into my back yard and run with the big dogs any time you feel froggy. Be warned, though. We play rough.
And drop the racism. It betrays an evil heart. Oh, and by the way, thanks for the traffic today.
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On October 2, 2014 at 8:01 am, B.Rubin said:
Nice! Thanks for the laugh this morning…it was a rough night at work. i just wish one of those idiots would try to debate you. That would make my week!
On October 2, 2014 at 9:21 am, Paul B said:
Yes, a debate would provide some amusement.
The bigger point is valid. Every one should be able to carry a gun should they desire. It is a right to protect oneself. Other wise you get a bunch of half dressed lunatics whacking peoples heads off.
On October 2, 2014 at 3:28 pm, Zoss Arwr said:
Don’t expect the lunatic fringe of salon.com to leave the bosom of their echo chamber to debate and be forced to deal with facts they don’t want to and acknowledge points of view they despise.
On October 14, 2014 at 1:58 am, Roger V. Tranfaglia said:
Or CSVG(whatever they call themselves)
On October 2, 2014 at 10:22 am, Shawn McEwen said:
Left wing loons aren’t predominantly anti gun, while also being racist. Left wing folks are predominantly racist, and also happen to be anti gun. They hate everyone that isn’t exactly like they are. The only problem is THEY are straight jacket crazy. It’s a disease, and it’s contagious!
On October 2, 2014 at 3:05 pm, Zoss Arwr said:
My sister is pretty much a lefty, a vegan who espouses the “white privledge” nonsense, and even she agrees that weapons in the hands of the politcally opressed can make all the difference between forcing those who would marginalize you into begrudgingly respecting your rights, or being marched into history en masse as yet another statistic of state-sponsored genocide.
Even within the ranks of the left, “gun control” supporters are a minority…….
On October 3, 2014 at 1:28 am, Shawn McEwen said:
So what would she say about someone having a half dozen AR-15s and a pile of 30 round mags? If she’s ok with that, in addition to being an enigma she’s probably not a loon.
On October 3, 2014 at 1:59 am, Zoss Arwr said:
She actually favors the AR- I wouldn’t call her “loon”, just misguided about some things, one of which is -not- gun control, thankfully. Besides having the “white privledge” argument with her, I’ve also had to set her stright about Isreals right to defend itself from those who wish to kill jews, and how the PLO and Hamas are the problem, and not Isreal.
To my mind, my sister is proof positive that not all misguided lefties are evil or hopeless- but it sure can be frustrating having to wde thru the brainwashing to get them to grasp reality.
Makes it easier when they at least recognize part of the contemporry leftist platform -in her case “gun control”- to be the flawed, authoritarian BS it is……
Gotta start somewhere I suppose.
On October 3, 2014 at 12:08 pm, Shawn McEwen said:
Tell her to spread the word!
On October 14, 2014 at 2:01 am, Roger V. Tranfaglia said:
Not my sis,…she is as Looney as they get. There is still hope for my bro-inlaw……..
On October 2, 2014 at 10:30 am, Native Baltimoron said:
I’d wager that a stronger culture of legal gun ownership in the black community would have, at worst, a neutral effect on the homicide rate. More or less every criminal who wants a gun can get one, since guns are not infrequently stolen from both gun stores and homes, and they wind up on the street quickly. In a neighborhood where the police response is ineffectual due to an adversarial relationship with the residents and prolific witness intimidation, having a gun and knowing how to use it is indubitably more important than it is for middle-class suburbanites.
On October 2, 2014 at 2:33 pm, Zoss Arwr said:
Those who constantly harp on a particular subject might actually be -projecting- their own issues onto everyone around them, especially those who disagree with them.
Thus proving the old adage true- “the empty can rattles the most”.
The more the proggies scream and holler about racism and such- the more we see them for who they are; no different then the democrats of old that started the KKK.
On October 2, 2014 at 2:37 pm, Zoss Arwr said:
http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.DYKKKKTerroristArmoftheDemocratParty
On October 2, 2014 at 2:58 pm, Zoss Arwr said:
And for the record- the human right of self defence, as typified by human beings being a tool using species and thus having the unalienable right to bear arms (tools) as protected from encroachment or abuse of govenmnt by the second amendment, is colorblind. It belongs to ALL HUMANS -PERIOD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RABZq5IoaQ
But considering the source, “salon.com”, the same wretched e-rag that denies the role that gun control laws played in the holocaust, and was directly used by the national SOCIALIST workers party to disarm and directly taget its polical enemies and the Jewish population BY NAME -something not even these blatant BIGOTED HACKS over at salon.com can deny- salon.com still attempts to deny the utility that Hitler and his nazi’s found in weapons “control” laws in order to further their own polical agenda of “gun control”- placing them, in this Jewish Americans eyes, squarely in the same arena as holocaust deniers.
On October 2, 2014 at 5:48 pm, pjb1 said:
I’ve been called racist before. Then the idiots are surprised to see I have an interracial marriage. Guess I don’t fit their preconceived notions.
http://strike-the-root.com/race-hucksters-bore-me
On October 2, 2014 at 10:41 pm, Russell Smith said:
Some people would say you can have an interracial marriage and still be racist. Those people are usually pretty racist themselves.
On October 3, 2014 at 2:04 am, Zoss Arwr said:
I love it when I’m assumed to be a “right wing nazi”. Just love it. In fact, I love it so much it makes me want to go all “defiance Beilski” on people who call me that stuff.
Honestly there is pretty much nothing worse you can call a Jew but a nazi.
On October 3, 2014 at 12:57 pm, Veritas said:
I call BS on this. There are many examples of whites being gunned down for not obeying instructions. Now most have knifes or some kind of non firearm but the idea that only blacks are killed is nonsense. People who do stupid things like carry a firearm in WalMart and then refuse to obey the orders of the police are committing suicide by cop.
On October 3, 2014 at 5:43 pm, Zoss Arwr said:
Its just the radical left trying to co-opt an issue as their own/confuse and mislead the public.
The rest of us know that we are having some serious issues with police excess these days which have nothing to do with race, and we also realize that far from it being “bush’s fault” or a “race issue”, that the lefts very own Dear Leader has been signing into law provisios allowing for indefinite detention of Americans without due process while killing Americans abroad, again without due process, as well as the NSA spying, politcal policing, and just recently Eric Holder crying about private companies building in poilice state proof encryption into their products after the NSA-snowden revelations.
The left wants you to be distracted by its incessant wailing about racism, all while the left cinches the police state noose ever tighter around our necks.
And taking guns away from people is all a part of it.
Cant have a police state without the state having a total monoply on the use of force.
And you know what? I’ve never seen a Republican controlled congress pass “gun control”…….. in fact, all major acts of “gun control” have been passed by the left.