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Muslim Migration

BY Herschel Smith

9 years, 10 months ago

I have strong misgivings about proposals, such as those that my esteemed colleague Ian Tuttle presents today, to restrict the number of Muslim immigrants and refugees in the United States. My root objection is that excluding people on the specific basis of their religion is illiberal and inconsistent with the spirit of the founding principles of this country. (Some readers will object that the Founders thought of themselves as establishing a Christian nation. This is a vexed question the plausible answer to which varies with the identity of the Founder. What I find dispositive is that the founding documents themselves eschew any endorsement of or preference toward a particular religion or creed. And apart from this textual matter, I do not think the political principles enshrined in those documents require justification in specifically Judeo-Christian terms.)

Well goodness, if Jason Lee Steorts thinks I’m being illiberal, then perhaps I should rethink my positions. Actually, most of the original 13 colonies had a formally endorsed denomination of the Christian faith embedded into state law at the time of ratification of the constitution. I’ve written extensively on the foundation of liberty using men far more learned that Mr. Steorts, such as R. J. Rushdoony and Douglas Kelly, so I won’t rehearse that here. What Steorts said was short, cryptic, flighty and trivial. It deserves no more response than I’m giving it here.

But I will point out one thing in particular concerning Muslim migration. I am under no obligation – legal or moral – to invite people into my country. I am under no obligation – legal or moral – to allow people into my country and give them the right to vote to take away my liberties. I am under no obligation – legal or moral – to support and provide for any Muslim anywhere, including this country. And finally (and I took a beating in comments on this a while back when it came up and I weighed in over other blogs), I am under no obligation – legal or moral – to allow people in this country to have weapons when I don’t think they should be allowed to be here anyway.

This country doesn’t just have a welfare problem (as if I would be more supportive of immigration if only I didn’t have to support the immigrants out of my paycheck). This country’s religious, cultural, and historical heritage is precious property and earned by blood, sweat and tears, and should not be subject to the vote of men and women who have been raised to hate those ideals. This country is my property, and I consider all illegal immigrants (and most legal immigrants) to be trespassers who need to be evicted from this property. Put that in your liberal pipe and smoke it.

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Comments

On January 14, 2015 at 12:13 pm, Western Gunowner said:

I don’t think I have shared my proposal to solve the Islam problem in the US here before, but just for the record –

http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html

Islam is at war with the West.
Encouraging more Muslim immigration is insanity.

On January 15, 2015 at 12:06 pm, DClan said:

I firmly believe the problem is that as the liberal-democrat regime continues to try and increase their political base through immigrant importation, the Islamic enemies of this country will use this entry to establish a platform to attack from within. When you look at the problem Muslim immigrants are creating in the U.K., with whole areas established as no go zones with creeping Sharia law, then you can see what the plan is for the U.S.. Even Mexico is smart enough to realize that immigration control is a necessity to protect their country, they deported more people last year thanks the U.S. did. This uncontrolled flood of illegals into this country will soon be it’s epitaph, as the liber-tyrannical dems create the world’s largest welfare state. America is at the brink, and most of the “feel good” “low information” sheep are too blind to see the precipice.

On January 18, 2015 at 1:59 pm, stormfriend said:

There are, sadly, the “ostrich” type people in this country, who are believe in all this “we are the world” b.s.
they do not believe – and likely won’t, until they are kneeling with a knife at their throat – that they are at war with islam. But, islam is at war with them. So their not acknowledging of reality doesn’t change reality. But the reality is, the adherents of the Islamic death cult only understand strength. We have a pansy as a President, and most in d.c. are about the same – no balls. The Islamic murderers will continue their rampage until… we kill them, starting with the clerics who incite them. I know that some folks panties get wadded up over this, as well as the fact that I own firearms. But I am willing to wager that when they are kneeling, as mentioned, and ther assassin is taken out by me and my trusty AR, that their epiphany will begin…

On January 30, 2015 at 9:54 am, Billy Mullins said:

I have no problem with legal immigration. For me it analogous to the phenomenon of “hybrid vigor”. I DO have a problem with people sneaking under the back fence or people coming here to colonize not assimilate(become a part of the richness which is America. I do not believe that most Muslims come here to be part of America but to colonize.

Additionally, I do not trust Muslims – ANY Muslims. The reason for that is because, while not all Muslims are Jehadis, all Jehadis ARE Muslims. That means that ALL Muslims are potentially Jehadis. Since their own holy book not only allows but ENCOURAGES them to lie to non Muslims, that indicates to me that they cannot be trusted – EVER. I am well aware of how paranoid and crazy such reasoning sounds. The problem in this case is that Jehadis represent a very real, existential threat to any and all of us. They really ARE “out to get us”. You are not being paranoid when you respond to a real, demonstrated threat to your life and safety and to the lives and safety of those whom you hold dear. Prudence and simple self-preservation would dictate treating Muslims differently from ANY OTHER GROUP OF IMMIGRANTS. It makes no difference how many pledges potential Muslim immigrants sign or oaths they swear or how many people vouch for them. There is no way to insure they are not being deceptive. For this reason you do not allow them in.

For my money it is purely a case of the fable of the frog and the scorpion or the older tale of the farmer and the viper. In the latter a farmer takes pity on a snake freezing in the snow and puts it inside of his coat to warm it, whereupon the snake bites the farmer who dies for his kindness. In one version of the tale, the snake answers the farmer’s demand for an explanation with a counter-question, “Did you not know that there is enmity and natural antipathy between your kind and mine? Did you not know that a serpent in the bosom, a mouse in a bag and fire in a barn give their hosts an ill reward?”

When we allow a Muslim – ANY MUSLIM – to immigrate to the U.S., are we not potentially taking a snake to our bosom?

On January 14, 2015 at 12:13 pm, Western Gunowner said:

I don’t think I have shared my proposal to solve the Islam problem in the US here before, but just for the record –

http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html

Islam is at war with the West.
Encouraging more Muslim immigration is insanity.
On January 15, 2015 at 12:06 pm, DClan said:

I firmly believe the problem is that as the liberal-democrat regime continues to try and increase their political base through immigrant importation, the Islamic enemies of this country will use this entry to establish a platform to attack from within. When you look at the problem Muslim immigrants are creating in the U.K., with whole areas established as no go zones with creeping Sharia law, then you can see what the plan is for the U.S.. Even Mexico is smart enough to realize that immigration control is a necessity to protect their country, they deported more people last year thanks the U.S. did. This uncontrolled flood of illegals into this country will soon be it’s epitaph, as the liber-tyrannical dems create the world’s largest welfare state. America is at the brink, and most of the “feel good” “low information” sheep are too blind to see the precipice.
On January 18, 2015 at 1:59 pm, stormfriend said:

There are, sadly, the “ostrich” type people in this country, who are believe in all this “we are the world” b.s.
they do not believe – and likely won’t, until they are kneeling with a knife at their throat – that they are at war with islam. But, islam is at war with them. So their not acknowledging of reality doesn’t change reality. But the reality is, the adherents of the Islamic death cult only understand strength. We have a pansy as a President, and most in d.c. are about the same – no balls. The Islamic murderers will continue their rampage until… we kill them, starting with the clerics who incite them. I know that some folks panties get wadded up over this, as well as the fact that I own firearms. But I am willing to wager that when they are kneeling, as mentioned, and ther assassin is taken out by me and my trusty AR, that their epiphany will begin…
On January 30, 2015 at 9:54 am, Billy Mullins said:

I have no problem with legal immigration. For me it analogous to the phenomenon of “hybrid vigor”. I DO have a problem with people sneaking under the back fence or people coming here to colonize not assimilate(become a part of the richness which is America. I do not believe that most Muslims come here to be part of America but to colonize.

Additionally, I do not trust Muslims – ANY Muslims. The reason for that is because, while not all Muslims are Jehadis, all Jehadis ARE Muslims. That means that ALL Muslims are potentially Jehadis. Since their own holy book not only allows but ENCOURAGES them to lie to non Muslims, that indicates to me that they cannot be trusted – EVER. I am well aware of how paranoid and crazy such reasoning sounds. The problem in this case is that Jehadis represent a very real, existential threat to any and all of us. They really ARE “out to get us”. You are not being paranoid when you respond to a real, demonstrated threat to your life and safety and to the lives and safety of those whom you hold dear. Prudence and simple self-preservation would dictate treating Muslims differently from ANY OTHER GROUP OF IMMIGRANTS. It makes no difference how many pledges potential Muslim immigrants sign or oaths they swear or how many people vouch for them. There is no way to insure they are not being deceptive. For this reason you do not allow them in.

For my money it is purely a case of the fable of the frog and the scorpion or the older tale of the farmer and the viper. In the latter a farmer takes pity on a snake freezing in the snow and puts it inside of his coat to warm it, whereupon the snake bites the farmer who dies for his kindness. In one version of the tale, the snake answers the farmer’s demand for an explanation with a counter-question, “Did you not know that there is enmity and natural antipathy between your kind and mine? Did you not know that a serpent in the bosom, a mouse in a bag and fire in a barn give their hosts an ill reward?”

When we allow a Muslim – ANY MUSLIM – to immigrate to the U.S., are we not potentially taking a snake to our bosom?

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