Notes From HPS
BY Herschel Smith9 years, 8 months ago
“A Navy veteran and his wife are challenging a ban on handguns in Saipan, arguing in federal court that the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands is bound by the U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment” … The right to keep and bear arms is only legally recognized as “conditionally guaranteed,” meaning it’s not. Private possession of handguns is prohibited. All the government allows people to have are “.22 caliber rifles and .410 gauge shotguns.” Naturally, “background checks,” training, licensing and registration are required.
Ridiculous. A .410 gauge shotgun is good for certain small fowl that would be destroyed with a 20 or 12 gauge, but it cannot be adequately used as a self defense weapon. Nor can .22LR (including so-called “stinger” rounds). Of course, my bet is that law enforcement is allowed to have more than .22LR and .410 gauge shotguns. Some animals are more equal than other animals.
Via Mike Vanderboegh, Army Rangers on civilian land in Georgia.
Back in June, Georgia ForestWatch District Leader David Govus came across two soldiers on foot and one in a pickup truck near Bryant Creek, a tributary of Cooper Creek. Talking with them, he learned that they were scouting out potential helicopter landing zones in the area because, as the sergeant said “the colonel wants to step out.”
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In an apparently unrelated incident, I recently happened to be at Wilscot Gap, where the gated road to Brawley Mountain (FS45) begins, when a big pickup truck turned in toward the gate. I thought it must be Forest Service employees and went over to talk with them. But the truck was not a Forest Service one. The driver was not in military uniform, but the passenger who got out to unlock the gate, was. We had a brief, friendly conversation during which he informed me that, “This is a military road.” “No,” I contradicted him, “it’s a Forest Service road.”
This is very troubling. The Marine Corps has trained before in various civilian venues such as Linville Gorge, and I’ve seen them doing cold weather training at Snowshoe, W.V., during the winter during ski season. But they weren’t intrusive, and in my opinion this kind of thing ought to be the exception rather than the rule. Military time on civilian land should be limited. Recalling the line from the movie Patriot, “This ISN’T the King’s highway.”
But in hindsight I now wonder how did that young man get a gun? Either he stole it, as I assumed, or he purchased it on the black market which exists all throughout America.
This got me to wondering and I realize now that guns are selfish and bring nothing productive to the conversation.
Therefore, civilian gun ownership should be banned.
I know. You’re blown away by the power of his syllogistic reasoning. Leave it to me to supply your intellectual challenge for the day.
Investigators said the burglars took heirlooms, jewelry and cash. Most concerning for Lohmeier, though, are the 45 guns, which included 15 assault rifles. The burglars also stole 1,000 rounds of ammunition. In total, Lohmeier said the burglary cost him at least $200,000 in stolen property and money.
“The sheriff’s department said they’ve never seen anything like this and it had to take hours, so there had to be people watching,” Lohmeier said. “A crew that came in and did this.”
Insure your guns, fellows. Just do it. Make that call today to your insurance agent or broker, and get them covered. Go ahead. Do it … don’t wait.
On March 25, 2015 at 8:44 am, Lina Inverse said:
I wonder about the real meaning of “this is a military road”. The guy might have meant “this road was built or improved by or for the military so we could use it as we need to”. Dual purpose, like the famous Roman roads.
As for the Rangers, who are we to begrudge “the colonel” his moment of posturing?
On March 25, 2015 at 11:02 am, Archer said:
“This got me to wondering and I realize now that guns are selfish and bring nothing productive to the conversation.
Therefore, civilian gun ownership should be banned.”
Sure thing. Start with the police; they are not military, therefore they are civilians, too.
If “guns are selfish and bring nothing productive to the conversation”, then police don’t need them during their day-to-day interactions with the rest of us. It’s supposed to be “to protect and serve”, not “to be selfish and non-productive”. So start by disarming all police forces in the country.
No? Then shut the hell up.
On March 25, 2015 at 2:16 pm, Ned Weatherby said:
I’ve noticed that “guns are selfish” and consume ammunition. I’ve never had one yet speak to, or converse with me. Maybe a tinfoil hat adjustment is in order.
Edit: Sorry Archer. Posted in wrong tab – wasn’t responding to your post.
On March 25, 2015 at 4:31 pm, Phil Ossiferz Stone said:
House slave for the blue-state fascists. Nothing more, nothing less… and nothing unusual any more, unfortunately.
On March 25, 2015 at 11:09 am, Dan said:
I hope you were being sarcastic about insuring your guns. That’s equivalent for registering them.
On March 25, 2015 at 11:13 am, Herschel Smith said:
No, it’s not. You call your insurance agent and ask for a rider on your homeowner’s policy of $20,000 (or whatever), She will tell you okay, that’s an additional $100 every six months, or whatever it happens to be. No one wants to know serial numbers, how many guns you have, what kind they are, or anything of the sort. Or, you can simply lose everything if someone breaks into your house, turns over your safe when you’re not there, and takes a pry bar and two minutes and removes all of your guns.
On March 26, 2015 at 8:40 am, Lina Inverse said:
USAA requires everything including the serial numbers, at least for someone in my class of children of officers.
On March 26, 2015 at 9:04 am, Herschel Smith said:
Mine doesn’t. It sounds like you need a new insurance company, brother.
On March 26, 2015 at 12:43 pm, Lina Inverse said:
USAA has been too good in handling my family’s claims including one of mine over decades to be casually dismissed. I’m also not trying to maintain a low profile from anyone but local private actors who might be inclined to steal my modest set of guns.
On March 25, 2015 at 4:18 pm, Daniel Barger said:
While .410 and .22 are not IDEAL for self defense they can do the job. I’ve seen PLENTY of people roll into ER to be pronounced on arrival due to lead poisoning from a .22 round. And
.410 slugs can be had….and would be quite effective at stopping someone. Slugs from a .410 have more kinetic energy inside 40 yards than a .357 magnum.
On March 25, 2015 at 4:43 pm, Herschel Smith said:
You make good points about .410. If I was going to shoot .22 in self defense, I would want it to be .22 WMR.