I’m A Gun-Owning Poster Boy
BY Herschel Smith
9 years, 2 months ago
From the comments at Mother Jones.
I think everyone who advocates gun control should try to confiscate our weapons. All of them. Don’t leave even a single one behind. Come into our homes. That’s where they are. And be sure to join the SWAT teams who you’ll be sending to their deaths. If you really believe all of this stuff. I think you’re just blowing hot air and aren’t prepared for the bloody civil war that would ensue. Oh … you mean you’re just talking about sending OTHER PEOPLE to do the work? I get it now.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Your move.
…these are the kind of comments that make you the poster boy for people who should not own guns.
So your proposition is that if someone believes in God-given rights to own self protection, or believes in the second amendment, he is disqualified from owning a weapon in your world. Or in other words, if someone doesn’t really care if he owns a weapon or not, and doesn’t care if the government confiscates that weapon, that is the only true qualification for owning a weapon in your world.
Or said differently, if someone disagrees with you, they should be disarmed. The only people qualified to be armed are the ones who agree with you. Thanks for self-identifying. It’s always easier when you guys out yourself rather than us having to drag it out of you.
Really, you need to make it harder. I feel like I’m fighting a man who has both hands tied behind his back. It only took one comment deep before you willing fell into the trap.
Thanks for playing. I’ll look for you on those SWAT teams to confiscate weapons from otherwise peaceable men. Or not.
UPDATE: Comment below from Sean: Anyone notice that several of the replies on MJ’s site to Herschel have suddenly disappeared? Only one remaining currently (3:36pm PST 10/8) is Rick Meister’s.
He’s right. There were comments to the extent that Rick’s criteria was just fine, i.e., disarm those with whom we disagree (I wish I had copied them too). This is rich. Mother Jones has been deleting comments – comments that call their readers out for who they are. This “new conversation” they want to have on guns is a lie. All they want is confiscation and disarming.
Thanks for playing Motherless Jones. As I told Jennifer Mascia of Everytown – a Bloomberg apparatchik – who came into my back yard and used a nom de guerre of “Tommy Gnosis,” if you want to tangle with my commenters, you’d going to have to run with the big dogs.
UPDATE #2: Here is one deleted comment.
Actually, tough guy, I’d be pretty happy to use those criteria. And reflect on your bravery when the bad men cuff you and take your guns while you cry out for your aunty-mama.
12:33 a.m., Thursday Oct. 8 | Other comments by Reboogity Amen
On October 8, 2015 at 7:12 am, MrApple said:
I think this is the kind of help that we DON’T need.
On October 8, 2015 at 9:30 am, Herschel Smith said:
Ah. You still believe in the utility of “the conversation” with communists, don’t you?
On October 8, 2015 at 12:52 pm, MrApple said:
Yes I do.
On October 8, 2015 at 1:00 pm, Herschel Smith said:
I think you’re lying.
On October 8, 2015 at 1:10 pm, MrApple said:
We’re not at the stage to start shooting them. Not quite yet. ;)
On October 8, 2015 at 9:15 pm, Heyoka said:
If you think that you can reason with the communists you are an abject idiot. No offence but I am just stating the plain truth. Socialists/Communists and the Marxists who advocate both think that anything is ok if it furthers their agenda.
So anything they say is a lie. Pretty simple don’t you think???
On October 9, 2015 at 2:01 pm, Joe_Mahon said:
The stage was established in the original post: If it isn’t TIME to fight back when they enter your house to seize your guns, it was never going to be “time” for you to ever fight back, anyway:-))
Literacy, logic and the disarmed…..maybe you had better pay closer attention. If you thought you were paying attention, you just proved to everyone that you are mistaken:-))
Re-read the OP, smart guy:-)) Your too cool criticisms of others are freakin’ hilarious as I read your crap….and see the stupidity shining through.
The SWAT team is in your house, your move mouse:-))
“But I wasn’t responding to the OP.”
Then be gone, dumbass—because that is the thread, like it or not:-)
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On October 8, 2015 at 1:19 pm, DISQUSted said:
Because you’re a coward. Plain and simple. You HOPE you can TALK your way out of everything because you lack the courage to take ACTION. Then you posture that you are somehow “more intelligent” than the rest of us because you seek an “intellectual solution” to that which cannot be solved intellectually. The reality is you are the least intelligent among us because you think you can craft some argument that would stop the collectivist progressive authoritarians from pressing their agenda which ultimately ends with free people being killed. You are not smart enough to see where this ends and you are too arrogant to understand that the rest of us know EXACTIY where this is headed. YOU are the help we don’t need because you are stupid, foolish, arrogant and cowardly. The time to start shooting has long passed. The shooting will start soon enough and cowards like you will be hiding under your bed. STFU.
On October 8, 2015 at 1:41 pm, MrApple said:
Then telling you to eat shit is going to be completely out of character for me.
On October 8, 2015 at 3:01 pm, DISQUSted said:
Telling me us all you could ever do.
On October 8, 2015 at 9:16 pm, Heyoka said:
De-Nile is not a river in Egypt. :)
On October 8, 2015 at 1:33 pm, GomeznSA said:
Really? After all the words that they (hoplophobes) have said about how anyone who owns a firearm is – at best – a potential terrorist or mass murderer? You simply cannot reason with folks who are that unreasonable.
I fervently hope that it does NOT come to shooting since the ones who are pushing for forcibly disarming Citizens will NOT be the ones in jeopardy.
On October 8, 2015 at 2:15 pm, Bill R Tarvin said:
Don’t shoot the ones comin’ for guns, shoot the ones that send ’em.
On October 8, 2015 at 6:59 pm, III J said:
Both. :)
On October 8, 2015 at 9:34 pm, Heyoka said:
The current form of “liberal” is convinced that Socialism/Communism will work. Even after an entire century tells us that is does not. Communist China and Russia would have gone the way of the Doo Doo Bird had they not been chummed into capitalism.
Maybe 100 million or more people murdered by their own government in that time. But to top it off the Framers were no strangers to this. Sam Adams stated:
“The Utopian schemes of leveling, and a community of goods, are as visionary and impracticable as those which vest all property in the Crown. [These ideas] are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government, unconstitutional.”
Leveling is redistribution of wealth and community of goods is always ruled over by some elitist bunch such as Communism putting all means of production into he hands of the state. Even the Framers were aware of the socialism/communism type of insanity. Marx did not have a new idea.
This garbage has never worked. So you have a group of people attempting the experiment once again. It was Albert Einstein who stated that conducting the same experiment over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
So just who the hell is bent and who knows the truth. Insanity is rampant with these indoctrinated thralls. I am not one to do something just because everyone else does.
In the real world you cannot reason with those who are insane. Makes perfect sense to me.
On October 8, 2015 at 10:19 pm, tayronachan said:
Very well said, and as we all know, Einstein was a very smart dude.
On October 8, 2015 at 11:27 pm, rumcrookâ„¢ said:
Yes they will. You don’t think the government and anti freedom collectivist are the only ones with lists? these “editors” and “writers” and social justice activists who are pushing for the shitstorm to start along with many other instigators have made it on to lists too. If they want to start playing with other people’s lives they won’t be immune from the game either. And they won’t need to be at the tip of the spear taking guns from people in thier homes, they just need to walk out thier front door. If people start dying protecting thier God given rights, the collectivists won’t be safe just becuase they ginned it up but don’t get to the front line.
On October 8, 2015 at 11:46 am, Mike in Illinois said:
Who is your “we”?
This is the sentiment of gun owning rights defenders – because it is the core of the right to bear arms itself. If you Mrapple are in a different group – well I do feel sorry for you.
On October 8, 2015 at 12:54 pm, MrApple said:
Good luck with that. Maybe Alex Jones has some comforting words that he can scream crazily at you.
On October 8, 2015 at 12:59 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Mike didn’t mention Alex Jones. You did. Alex Jones was an irrelevant feature to your reply. You didn’t stay on point.
On October 8, 2015 at 1:12 pm, MrApple said:
No, he is only aligning himself to a ranting and raving nut-job that does nothing to help the average American gun owner… sounds like Alex Jones would be right up his alley.
On October 8, 2015 at 1:19 pm, Herschel Smith said:
No he didn’t. You just made that up because you didn’t know what else to say.
On October 8, 2015 at 1:42 pm, MrApple said:
If you say so.
On October 8, 2015 at 3:05 pm, DISQUSted said:
He does say so. And so does every logical human being with an IQ above 70.
Why don’t you get a job? Instead of spending all of your time posting ridiculous ignorant meaningless adolescent crap on every blog you can find? You strike me as being about fourteen years old. Get a life.
On October 8, 2015 at 9:38 pm, Heyoka said:
SO you are not ranting and raving in your own way????
On October 8, 2015 at 1:28 pm, Mike in Illinois said:
Oh, so now you try to play guilt by association.
How about you try arguing the merits of what I said, rather than try to deflect and distract. I don’t know the man, never met the man and have great respect for a fella who doesn’t think too much of him because of direct interactions.
MrApple, do you have anything to offer regarding what I actually said or not?
On October 8, 2015 at 1:44 pm, MrApple said:
No, I think your allegiance to a ranting and raving nut-job looking for attention said it all.
On October 8, 2015 at 1:45 pm, John Crawford said:
So far, he’s said nothing about such allegiance. Only you have done so. Does that make you a liar?
Semper fi
On October 8, 2015 at 1:47 pm, Mike in Illinois said:
My allegiance to whom?
Alex Jones?
Even after me telling you I have zero affiliation with that fella, and why, you still try to turn the discussion away from the substance of what I said and toward a person who has zero to do with anything I said?
MrApple, do you have anything to offer regarding what I actually said or not?
On October 8, 2015 at 9:40 pm, Heyoka said:
Attempting to discredit… Pure Marxist… right out of Alinsky’s Playbook.
On October 8, 2015 at 11:43 am, Mike in Illinois said:
I find it most hilarious when loyalist rights controllers pose as gun owners and claim that those of us who ardently defend the right to keep and bear arms are why we shouldn’t have that right, that somehow we are embarrassing. Truth is, those who chastise exercise of the first in defending the second are the real embarrassment to themselves. Usually it does take more than one comment to flush them out.
We aren’t giving up our guns and we aren’t giving up our rights. We will indeed fight to keep both.
We will not comply with unconstitutional dictation – period. Posers will pose and when push comes to shove they will freeze but more importantly, those directing the rights violations will experience a turn of events they did not see coming…they will be left frozen in fear when they figure out that they have to try to exact their usurpations themselves because those they thought would do it for them refuse to do so.
On October 8, 2015 at 3:07 pm, Haywood Jablome said:
He is a troll…plain and simple. He won’t argue facts. He does not even remotely have a grasp of the issues. And he deflects and detracts when confronted. I will give him this…he read the “how to be an annoying troll” book and took it to heart!
On October 8, 2015 at 3:37 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Yes, but he makes us hone our skills and sharpen our swords. And adds to the comments on this web site, increasing Disqus revenue with which I will buy guns and ammunition (even if it only helps a little bit). He can sleep well tonight knowing that with his help I can make that payment to Hyatt Gun Shop for my next gun currently on layaway..
;))
On October 8, 2015 at 4:47 pm, Haywood Jablome said:
Very good point. Few things are sweeter than the taste of liberal tears…..
On October 8, 2015 at 9:48 pm, Heyoka said:
“That which does not kills us only make us stronger.”
Fredrick Nietzsche
Yeah Boy!
On October 8, 2015 at 5:34 pm, Jack Crabb said:
MrApple may be a troll or he may be a libturd, and they are not mutually exclusive. Both have a lack of ability to deal with logic, reason, cogent arguments and facts.
I didn’t realize you make a little bit of coin from the Disqus comments, Cap’n. I’ll have to start commenting more often.
On October 8, 2015 at 11:05 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Thanks Jack. Much appreciated. It isn’t much, since I have been blogging with Disqus for comments (what, a year now?), I’ve got a few hundred dollars coming my way. Again, not much, but enough to carry down to Hyatt Gun Shop for that next pistol.
On October 8, 2015 at 12:33 pm, Fred said:
The coward plans to pay one of his neighbors to arm themselves in order to take the arms of his other neighbors while he watches on cable news.
On October 8, 2015 at 1:01 pm, Mitch Rapp said:
Dang! I wanted to shoot him!
On October 8, 2015 at 1:39 pm, GomeznSA said:
Hey Herschel, in your reply to RickMeister you missed a golden opportunity to query him about who gets to decide who should have guns and what criteria they will use to deny ownership. We need to take every opportunity to pin them down on specifics so that we can use their own words against them. Other than that, good reply ;-)
On October 8, 2015 at 5:36 pm, Sean said:
Anyone notice that several of the replies on MJ’s site to Herschel have suddenly disappeared? Only one remaining currently (3:36pm PST 10/8) is Rick Meister’s.
On October 9, 2015 at 5:34 pm, Sean said:
Ya, they are removing anything posted under Herschel and Rickmeister.
Great video on how to get full gun control in the US in 5 easy steps (posted to the thread…and subsequently censored….these people have no more belief in the 1st Amendment than the 2nd….which should tell you why they want the guns in the first place ;) ).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoFKskvSq4
On October 8, 2015 at 7:56 pm, exsanguine said:
Jumpin’ jeebus, TheStupid™ is deep over there at motherless jones. I made it one page down and had to leave. I felt my brain cells screaming in pain.
On October 8, 2015 at 8:20 pm, Paul X said:
Good one, Herschel. When the frolics begin, they won’t be able to say they weren’t warned.
“the poster boy for people who should not own guns”
These people live in the land of “should”. Things should be just the way they prefer, and they become panicky if it doesn’t work out that way. The land of “is” is unknown to them. They hate reality, fear reality, reject reality. Unfortunately, reality has a way of whacking ignorant people across the nose with a 2×4, once in a while.
On October 8, 2015 at 9:58 pm, Frank Clarke said:
Item of interest for all those who think Americans should be disarmed for their own good:
Let me give you the Executive Summary of the thinking of most of America’s gun owners:
No. In fact, “Oh Hell No”.
Here’s how it works:
CT passed a draconian assault weapon registration law in 2013. By the deadline for registration, Jan 1, 2014, approximately 48,000 of the estimated 370,000 covered firearms (15%) and 37,000 of the estimated 4 million “high capacity magazines” (1%) had been registered.
85% of heretofore-otherwise-law-abiding CT gun owners just gave CT the finger. If the state is going to make them felons, then by God they’re going to be the very best felons anywhere.
NYS did the same thing with the NYSAFE Act and their compliance rate is thought to be under 10%.
WA passed a law mandating universal background checks for all “transfers” (not just sales). Two months later a WA gun-owners organization held a widely-advertised “no BGC gun show” and broke the law on several thousand occasions with police standing there observing but making no arrests.
The game is over; thank you for playing. No one can or will enforce these laws for fear of touching off a new civil war. And make no mistake: the next civil war will be a 4GW conflict. No ranks of soldiers firing at ranks of soldiers; the targets in 4GW are senators, cabinet members, CEOs, publishers, and support staff for all of those. It will be among the most hazardous of occupations to be a cabinet member or the head of a federal bureau.
I’m absolutely positive you don’t want to go there. I know I don’t, but more importantly, I no longer worry that some nutcase progressive will attain the Presidency and use that to foist serious gun control upon the populace. It’s simply not going to happen.
On October 11, 2015 at 3:16 pm, TimeHasCome said:
Ol’ George was blowing British heads off for taxing his morning beverage .