Law Enforcement In South Carolina And Alabama At War With Gun Rights
BY Herschel Smith7 years, 8 months ago
Charleston Police Chief Greg Mullen wants to stop the General Assembly from enacting a law that would allow gun owners to carry their guns concealed or openly without having to get a permit, and he’s enlisted area residents to help him get the job done.
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Mullen says the law would make it more difficult for law enforcement employees to do their jobs since they wouldn’t be able to question people only for openly carrying their weapons.
“People are going to be calling us and wanting us to intervene, and we’re going to have to tell them because of the law, we’re not able to do that,” he said …
“At least we know when were dealing with a concealed-weapons carrier, they’ve gone through a background check and gone through training,” he said. “And it creates another opportunity for small situations, verbal altercations or minor disagreements, to lead to serious injuries or even death.”
Dramatic, yes? Altercations, even death! The problem is that he’s lying. As a long time resident of a “Gold Star” traditional open carry state, I know that nothing of the sort happens. And chief Mullen knows all of this too, but like LEOs everywhere, he wants to maintain control and the revenue stream that comes from gun permitting. Mullen shouldn’t look at it as if he isn’t “able to intervene.” He should look at it as an opportunity to educate the public on the rights of citizens of South Carolina. He would rather intervene, since he is an old school collectivist.
Next up, Alabama LEOs.
Treadaway said an example of how the permit requirement is an important tool for law enforcement came last week when Birmingham police stopped a pickup with no headlights on. The officers noticed an AR-15 on the back seat, which was not illegal, Treadaway said. The driver admitted to having a pistol in the truck and did not have a permit for it.
That led to his arrest and a search of the truck, which turned up two pipe bombs and illegal drugs, Treadaway said.
“That’s a prime example that if this law passed, the concerns of law enforcement is that tool would be taken away,” Treadaway said.
It all sounds so dramatic, yes? Except it wasn’t the lack of a permit that tipped the LEOs off to something else in the automobile, it was the willingness of the perpetrator to confess on the spot that he had a pistol in the truck. Actually, if he had run his headlights, he never would have been stopped to begin with, so none of this has anything to do with permitting or open carry.
You can take it as an article of faith, that when asked about constitutional carry, LEOs everywhere will come up with the most dramatic excuses for why it’s a bad thing and will lead to blood in the streets and difficulty to maintain law and order.
Except that the history of open carry states shows that they’re lying every time. So why ask them at all? Ignore the LEOs when considering the rights of citizens. After all, they aren’t constitutional scholars.
On April 27, 2017 at 11:34 am, Archer said:
“At least we know when were dealing with a concealed-weapons carrier, they’ve gone through a background check and gone through training,” he said.
Then he’s an idiot.
What he’s saying is, any and every concealed-weapons carrier has gone through training and a background check, as opposed to any and every open-carrier who MUST be a criminal.
Did he ever consider that maybe — just maybe — a concealed-weapons carrier might be concealing because they’re a criminal “prohibited person” who isn’t allowed to carry and so must conceal the fact that he/she is carrying? It should be noted, you don’t see this problem with open-carriers, because open-carriers by definition feel they have nothing to hide.
This next statement might blow the collective(ist) minds of the LEOs, but it must be said (as sad as it is that it must be said): A person — whether carrying openly or concealed or not at all — who is not causing a problem, is not a problem, and shouldn’t be treated as if they are.
On April 29, 2017 at 11:01 am, Ned Weatherby said:
Translation regarding “losing an important law enforcement tool:
“If criminals didn’t confess, the average IQ officer would never make an arrest. Therefore, law abiding citizens can’t be trusted.”
Total non sequitur regarding any actual or perceived problem.