Cyrus Vance: Concealed Carry Reciprocity Would Turn New York Into The Wild, Wild West
BY Herschel Smith7 years, 2 months ago
CNN:
No one will bear the burden of those tragedies more heavily than our police. Under the CCRA, cops would have to patrol our streets surrounded by hidden, loaded guns. They would have no way to confirm whether an out-of-state permit is legitimate and no database to check on the status of those permits. And because many states don’t even require permits to carry, the NYPD would have to take armed individuals at their word.
So police officers are against this bill. Prosecutors, like me, are against this bill. Who would actually be for this bill? I can offer one answer: ISIS.
I’m glad he brought up ISIS. It’s Vance who is aligned with ISIS, not gun owners. Remember? One of the first things ISIS did when they took any area was to outlaw firearm ownership and confiscate them. ISIS is big on gun control, just like New York City officials.
As for turning New York into the Wild, Wild West, I don’t think anybody has anything to worry about from concealed handgun carriers. It’s the NYPD we all have to worry about. Given their < 20% hit rate, if they’re shooting at you, then you don’t have much to fear. If they aren’t but are just shooting, then find a hole, crawl in it, and pray. Or run.
On the other hand, you can just stay out of shitholes like NYC like I do.
On August 29, 2017 at 9:01 am, Houston said:
It is funny. The “it will turn into the wild,wild west” or “the streets will run red with blood” lines these ID10T’s always use never have come true. The same prophecies have been used for the past twenty or so years of Concealed Carry in the many states. This prophecy is false.
On August 29, 2017 at 9:37 am, Pat Hines said:
It’s the height of hypocrisy to state that CCRA would suddenly put concealed handguns on the streets of New York City. As if no one carries there now.
Further, residents of states that have lawful permitless carry don’t get to carry in states that require permits now, that won’t change with CCRA.
On August 29, 2017 at 2:19 pm, ExpatNJ said:
“As if no one carries there now.” – Pat Hines.
Many dead bodies in NYC are the result of gang wars, etc. But, some unknown number are criminals who attacked a peaceful citizen who, after defending themselves, had to just walk away, lest s/he be the one who got arrested for carrying a weapon …
On August 29, 2017 at 5:49 pm, Randolph Scott said:
“On the other hand, you can just stay out of shitholes like NYC like I do.” – A perfect description of NYC.
On August 29, 2017 at 6:13 pm, George said:
There are a lot of people out there who are quietly learning to make guns at home using both old time technology (manual lathe and milling machine) as well as home CNC machining. When knowledge of how to manufacture the object of .gov’s ire becomes ubiquitous, banning its ownership will be meaningless. You can’t legislate technology. Or put differently “you can’t stop the signal”:
https://johnbearross.blogspot.com/2012/07/you-cant-stop-signal-part-2-3-d-printed.html
On September 1, 2017 at 9:40 pm, Fred said:
I think I first saw, ‘You can’t stop the signal’ over at Uncle. Now I’m wondering from whence it came. I like it this way; “They can’t stop the signal, nobody can stop the signal.”
On September 2, 2017 at 8:23 am, Steg said:
Hey Fred,
“You can’t stop the signal” comes from the movie Serenity, the fantastic conclusion to the series Firefly. Another great allegory for freedom.
On September 2, 2017 at 7:44 pm, Longbow said:
So, according the Mr. Vance, Policemen are overwhelmingly against citizens exercising their natural (and constitutionally secured) rights.
I’m sure we’ll hear from the “vast majority” any time now.