Frank Schaeffer On Roy Moore’s Gun
BY Herschel Smith
7 years, 1 month ago
“When you see Judge Moore pull out a gun at a public rally, that is a threat,” Schaeffer told MSNBC “AM Joy” host Joy Reid. “This is the act of a fascist. This is not American. People don’t do this.”
Yea, your daddy said something a little different, dude.
“The Bible is clear here: I am to love my neighbor as myself, in the manner needed, in a practical way, in the midst of the fallen world, at my particular point of history. This is why I am not a pacifist. Pacifism in this poor world in which we live – this lost world – means that we desert the people who need our greatest help. What if you come upon a big, burly man beating a tiny tot to death and plead with him to stop? Suppose he refuses? What does love mean now? Love means that I stop him in any way I can, including hitting him. To me this is not only necessary for humanitarian reasons: it is loyalty to Christ’s commands concerning Christian love in a fallen world. What about the little girl? If I desert her to the bully, I have deserted the true meaning of Christian love – responsibility to my neighbor.”
Right Francis, and not only that, but you should do more than hit him. If necessary, you should put a bullet in him. Hey Frank, your daddy is more of a man than you’ll ever be in a thousand lifetimes. And your atheism is a shame to you and your family, and most of all means that you’re on the wrong side of history and life.
On October 2, 2017 at 9:39 am, Pat Hines said:
Frank Schaeffer is, in my professional opinion, in dire need of professional mental health evaluation.
He abandoned protestantism some time ago, becoming a Chrismated Orthodox Church member. That was of interest to me because I had done the same thing, and am a member of the St. George Greek Orthodox parish in Greenville. Schaeffer made a number of videos about his conversion, they may still be on youtube.
Over the last two years, maybe a bit longer, Schaeffer has moved full communist and may have abandoned Christianity altogether. It’s difficult to tell based on his disjointed rants.
As for his father, who is apparently some sort of John Calvin expert, I know very little. I have no interest in Calvin, he was a heretic to his core.
On October 2, 2017 at 10:22 am, Herschel Smith said:
@Pat,
Calvin wasn’t a heretic. You’re just parroting Roman Catholic talking points. He developed what we all know to be the compendium and apex of protestant theology after the Roman Catholic church went full-on heretical (in his “Institutes of the Christian Religion”).
Frank Schaeffer is son of Francis Schaeffer, Francis being a scholar and conservative and orthodox one at that. Frank repudiated Christianity several years ago and declared himself to be an atheist. It’s no mistake that the prog media love him.
His rantings are indeed discombobulated, disconnected, confused and incomprehensible. But I’m not a huge believe in “mental illness.”
On October 2, 2017 at 12:12 pm, Pat Hines said:
Some of Schaeffer’s videos are indeed still on youtube, here’s one of them.
https://youtu.be/9-CJhPlmznA
I’m not of the Latin Church at all, but do consider Calvin to be a heretic. Most protestant faiths fall in that category, it’s why there are over 30,000 such protestant sects in the US. Anyone wishing to do so, can claim to be correct NS. Biblical scholar, without restraint of any kind.
I frequently recommend listening to Fr. Barnabas Powell’s powerful video, https://youtu.be/40KmPUMW_UE/. He has been through a protestant seminary, was a protestant pastor, then converted to Greek Orthodoxy and attended the Greek Orthodox Seminary outside Boston, MA. He’s from Georgia and is the priest at the Greek Orthodox Church in Cumming, GA.
On October 2, 2017 at 1:08 pm, Herschel Smith said:
@Pat,
Okay, so I began this post only calling Frank a heretic. Nobody else. But if this is a debate you wish to engage, so be it. I suspect it isn’t, but who knows?
The YouTube video is cute and amusing, but believe me when I tell you that no video can convince me that Calvin was a heretic. Since you speak so boldly about this, I assume that you, like I, have done extensive studies in Calvin, beginning with his Institutes, going to his sermons, and then to his other works, including his multi-volume commentaries on the Bible.
Correct? Since you claim to know Calvinian theology, I assume you’ve done extensive studies in Calvinian theology. Otherwise, you wouldn’t make such a claim. I speak boldly about Calvin because I’ve studied at Reformed Theological Seminary under the world’s best professors on these very topics. I don’t know what you find … “heretical” … but let me venture a guess. Divine election and predestination?
It’s only a guess. Again, if you wish to engage this, please take it off line and send me a note.
As for Frankie, I’ve known about him for quite some time, beginning with his support for Operation Rescue, and devolving into the complete shill and hysterical nincompoop he is today. My only point was that he left the faith of his father. To his detriment … eternally.