Machine Guns Vegas Issues Pro Gun Control Statement
BY Herschel Smith
7 years, 1 month ago
On behalf of MGV, we are deeply saddened for the victims and families affected by last night’s activities and absolutely sickened by the behavior of the individual who committed a sheer act of violence on our community. We realize there will be many sensitivities to firearms and their misuse, and we would like to address a few points as a business that offers firearms experiences in a safe, controlled environment in Las Vegas. We believe, as we always have, that there should absolutely be more stringent control on the types of firearms private individuals can own and the processes they must go through in order to own those firearms. There were many factors contributing to this tragic event, but there is no doubt that the shooter’s ability to inflict so many casualties was heavily due to the types of weapons he had access to. MGV agrees that the NRA, Federal Government and individual states have a responsibility to continue to maximize efforts to keep these firearms out of the hands of the wrong people.
We believe that responsible gun ownership is attainable through the application of common sense, more stringent vetting and background checks, dramatically increased mandatory sentencing for gun offences and increased testing standards for gun owners.
I hope their few moments of fame with the collectivists felt good, because gun owners never forget. If you want to get a taste of the venom coming their way, visit this reddit link.
I can’t find the original post. If they have any sense at all, they took it down. But that may be too little, too late. The gun community now knows what they’re made of.
Too bad for them. But it’s best that we know, and the community will act accordingly, I assure you.
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On October 4, 2017 at 7:37 am, Fred said:
“On behalf of MGV, we are deeply saddened for the victims and families affected by last night’s activities and absolutely sickened by the behavior of the individual who committed a sheer act of violence on our community.”
– Should have stopped right there.
What are “increased testing standards”?
-Nobody ever tested me for owning any of my property, ever. Oh, and do they profit from machine gun and other gun controls? Why yes, yes they do.
On October 4, 2017 at 10:59 am, Col. Douglas Mortimer said:
I think they took down the statement from their page. Sorry MGV you can’t have it both ways. They can join CTD, Academy, Dicks Sporting Goods, and 44Mag.com on the ash heap.
On October 4, 2017 at 11:11 am, Pat Hines said:
Print out and send them a copy of the Jim Zumbo story, a story of a so-called expert whose knowledge base was found to be shallow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Zumbo#.22.27Terrorist.27_rifles.22_blog_entry
On October 4, 2017 at 11:23 am, Matthew Wilbanks said:
Col. Mortimer, can you give more specifics on what 44mag.com did? They are local to me and this is the first I’ve heard anything negative about them.
On October 4, 2017 at 11:50 am, Col. Douglas Mortimer said:
Matthew,
Sure. In the spring/summer of 2013 they got a bunch of M&P full size magazines in stock during the great magazine drought (in the aftermath of Sandy Hook) and were charging $99.99 for one of them. I took a screenshot of it. I’m all for a company trying to make a buck, but at a time when you could backorder them directly from S&W for about 32.99 it was preposterous….
On October 4, 2017 at 1:45 pm, Fred said:
Got it. 12th (ish) floor, belt-fed, pro shooter.
Paddock? Cover. Loser accountant wanna-be super cool gambler dude. Set up as super cool gun running intermediary dude but no, he’s a patsy for a fake gun deal to be used as “evidence” of the evil of guns and the ‘need’ for more security.
Motive? Fun and profit. Continued rollout of the police state. Must have more security, always, more security with high tech surveillance everywhere. Coming to schools, government, casinos, churches, office building. More security, everywhere, for fun and profit.
“Make America Safe Again”
The feds didn’t even try very hard this time. You guys are slipping.
On October 4, 2017 at 1:53 pm, Archer said:
As always, such generalist statements feel good, but the devil is in the details:
MGV agrees that the NRA, Federal Government and individual states have a responsibility to continue to maximize efforts to keep these firearms out of the hands of the wrong people.
OK, great. So maybe we can finally get some answers to some tough questions:
– Who, specifically, are the “wrong people” we need to keep away from firearms?
– How do you propose we differentiate the “wrong” people from the “right” ones?
– How do you expect, in an economy with a thriving (and by definition, uncontrolled) black market, to “keep these firearms out of the hands of the wrong people” without imposing undue burdens on the “right people”?
Any takers over at MGV? Anyone? Bueller?
We believe that responsible gun ownership is attainable through the application of common sense, more stringent vetting and background checks, dramatically increased mandatory sentencing for gun offences and increased testing standards for gun owners.
“Common sense”? You — and others who stand opposed to individual rights — keep using that word; I do not think it means what you think it means.
“More stringent vetting and background checks”? So, PPYI (Preemptively Prove Your Innocence) checks are no longer good enough? More tough questions: What, exactly, do you propose, and how do you expect it to prevent random, evil violence?
“Dramatically increased mandatory sentencing for gun offences [sic]”? First, you have to agree to actually charge violent criminals with gun crimes, and stop waiving those charges. Second, don’t think I missed the British spelling of “offenses”. If you want to be British, go to Britain. Your pro-control attitude will fit right in.
“Increased testing standards for gun owners”? Again, PPYI checks are no longer enough? Again, what, exactly, are you proposing, and how do you expect it will prevent random, evil violence?
Something tells me, the answers to the real questions will not be forthcoming. But thanks for self-identifying as my enemy! It makes my life much easier knowing who’s on my side and who’s not!
On October 4, 2017 at 4:16 pm, Pat Hines said:
As the redoubtable David Codrea has stated many times, “if you can’t be trusted with a gun, you need a caretaker or a jailer”.
The huge blackmarket in stolen guns was created by the Gun Control Act of 1968 which began the “prohibited person” who can’t buy like I buy, at a gun store. Yes, I want criminals to have normal access to non-stolen guns, which would reduce the black market. So, I don’t care if the wrong people can buy guns at the same stores I can, they’ll get a gun if they want a gun. I’ve read that the average time for a felon that wants a gun to acquire a gun when let out of prison is two hours.
Last, unless you can explain how “other shooters” managed to shoot through large windows without breaking the glass, best you STFU about other shooters. No, no one on the ground could have done the job, seeing the venue from ground level is next to impossible. Have any of you actually been to Las Vegas?
Further, I don’t agree that longer sentences for certain crimes than we have now is a good solution, the US and the states already jail too many people for too many crimes.
44mag.com typically has the lowest prices on magazines I’ve purchased from them. I can only guess that they were concerned about reordering costs. I don’t care what they charged during the “magazine drought”, most of us knew that that was temporary. Like the .22 LR rimfire drought, I wanted to lay in a substantial supply of that ammo, so I paid a premium to buy some, about two times what the same ammo sold for just a year earlier. I think it was $650.00 for 5,000 rounds. If you want the product, pay the asking price, or move on.
On October 4, 2017 at 8:30 pm, Herschel Smith said:
@Pat,
Rather than “best you STFU about other shooters,” I would prefer you say something like “I find your case unconvincing because …,” and then let him explain his case.
On October 5, 2017 at 1:24 am, DirtyMick said:
Herschal,
I worked for those clowns in 2013. Ghengis Cohen is a drug addled clown and they can barely make payroll because he racks up tabs at topless bars and night clubs