There’s A Special Place In Hell For This Guy
BY Herschel Smith6 years, 8 months ago
“If the only thing that comes out of this tragedy is we outlaw bump stocks and we raise the age at which people are allowed to buy an AR-15, that will be a failure,” … “Because the reality – from my perspective – is you need to do what we’ve always tried to do, which is to ban the sale of AR-15s, have universal background checks, and also take away the ability to buy these large magazines.”
Guess who said that? That’s right. Behind door number 1, you get a special prize to Fast and Furious. The same guy who actually gave all of those same things to gangsters and killers in order to do the same thing in America he just said … “ban the sale of AR-15s, have universal background checks, and also take away the ability to buy these large magazines.”
From my cold, dead hands, Eric. And no, I’m not talking about the Charlton Heston kind of cold, dead hands. I mean as one who really believes in God-given rights to own whatsoever he damn well pleases to own.
On March 5, 2018 at 11:46 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:
Former Attorney General David Holder, like his former boss, Barack Obama, is a revolutionary to the core.
The charge isn’t hyperbole, no – not at all. AG Holder held the job for a second time under Obama; the first time he worked for Bill Clinton. On the way out of Washington after eight years in power, Holder flipped the parenthetical bird to traditional law-abiding Americans by arranging for the pardon of a number of members of the Puerto Rican terrorist group FALN (Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional) who had been convicted of a number of high-profile attacks. The group seeks the independence of the U.S. Territory of Puerto Rico.
Holder saw nothing wrong with arming the Mexican “narcoterroristas” of the drug cartels in an ambitious attempt to frame law-abiding American firearm owners of illegal trafficking in arms across the international border with Mexico. Operation “Fast and Furious” saw the deaths of several Americans, including Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, as well as more than two hundred Mexican fatalities.
Technically, under international law, Obama and Holder were guilty of an act of war; the Mexicans had – in this incident – a legitimate casus belli, should they have chosen to act.
Having gotten away with trafficking arms illegally in our own neighborhood, Obama, Holder, Napolitano and Clinton took their show on the road – this time to the Middle East. After toppling the government of Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, the Obama/Holder regime used CIA assets to funnel these arms to ISIS and other Sunni terrorist-jihad groups fighting to overthrow the Assad regime in Syria, as well as committing numerous atrocities and other war crimes in the region.
The debacle at Benghazi came about because Obama and Clinton decided to sacrifice the lives of U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens as well as the lives of several heroic private security contractors, instead of risking exposure for their crimes should the Benghazi debacle be made known to the public. Those men died because their bosses were engaged in the illegal international trafficking of arms and the attempted overthrow of a legitimate foreign government. More crimes for which they would not be held accountable.
Obama and Holder, as well as former Secretary of State Clinton, are criminals – notwithstanding their status as politicians. In a just world, all would already be behind bars.
On March 6, 2018 at 7:11 am, ragman said:
Instead of being behind bars this POS is running for President in ‘20.
On March 6, 2018 at 8:16 am, CW Buff said:
Has anybody seen Jeff Sessions?? I think he may have last been seen having lunch with Chief Justice Roberts(of Obamacare fame). They are, after all, members of the Blackmailed Club.. The inaction of the people whose responsibility it is to act will be the ultimate cause of the people having to take matters into their own hands…. CW Buff out…
On March 6, 2018 at 4:52 pm, moe mensale said:
“Holder saw nothing wrong with arming the Mexican “narcoterroristas” of the drug cartels in an ambitious attempt to frame law-abiding American firearm owners of illegal trafficking in arms across the international border with Mexico.”
Holder wasn’t attempting to frame law-abiding American gun owners of illegal arms trafficking. He was attempting to show that Mexican cartels were getting their firepower by buying semi-auto guns at legally licensed American gun dealers (after the corrupt FBI “approved” the sales). His (and Obama’s) end game was to get semi-auto firearms banned in the US.
Which was a ludicrous strategy because anyone smarter than a rock knew the Mexican cartels bought and/or stole FULL AUTO weapons from the Mexican government, police and military as well as from Central America. Why would they want semi-autos?
On March 6, 2018 at 7:07 pm, Pat Hines said:
As long as that high yellow remains uncharged, untried, and not in jail; he’ll continue to be a problem.
Anyone know what kind of security he now has?
On March 7, 2018 at 1:39 am, Georgiaboy61 said:
Re: “Holder wasn’t attempting to frame law-abiding American gun owners of illegal arms trafficking. He was attempting to show that Mexican cartels were getting their firepower by buying semi-auto guns at legally licensed American gun dealers (after the corrupt FBI “approved” the sales). His (and Obama’s) end game was to get semi-auto firearms banned in the US.”
Not sure how they define a frame-up in your neck of the woods, but in mind, an operation like the one Holder was running was definitely an attempt to create a “crime” which heretofore did not exist – and then hang it an innocent party or parties.
Merriam-Webster’s online dictionary defines the term “frame” as follows: “to contrive the evidence against (an innocent person) so that a verdict of guilty is assured.”
Don’t know about you, but I’d say that’s what Operation Fast and Furious was about.
Holder and company were using one of the oldest and most well-tested methods straight out of the playbook of the NKVD or the SS-Gestapo.
An “agent provocateur” operation is defined as: “a person who commits, or who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an illegal act.”
Likewise, the term “false flag attack” describes covert operations that are designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.
One of the most-famous examples of this type of agent provocateur-false flag operation occurred on the eve of the Second World War in Europe, namely the so-called “Gleiwitz Incident.”
Hitler wanted a pretext to invade Poland and seize the Danzig Corridor and East Prussia back from the Poles. However, the Poles wouldn’t give him a suitable pretext, so he tasked the SS-Gestapo with creating one instead.
On the night of August 31st 1939, covert German operatives staged a raid upon the “Sender Gleiwitz” German radio station located along the Polish-German frontier.
Under orders from senior SS officer Reinhard Heydrich and Heinrich Müller, chief of the Gestapo, SS-Sturmbannführer Alfred Naujocks and a small team of men, all of whom were dressed in Polish uniforms, assaulted the radio station and then broadcast a short anti-German message in Polish.
Prisoners of the SS-Gestapo and a number of inmates of the Dachau concentration camp, were dressed in Polish uniforms, given lethal injections, and then immediately shot and left for dead at the site.
The faces of the dead were disfigured to make positive identification of them impossible. These dead were then presented as “proof” of the Polish attack, which was then used as the pretext for invading Poland on September 1st 1939.
Naujocks survived the war and stood trial at the Nuremberg Tribunal, where he disclosed the details of this operation to Allied investigators.
Holder and his team of coconspirators wished to discredit U.S. gun stores for supplying the cartels with weapons, and intended to frame them for this crime. The larger strategic goal was to weaken the gun-rights movement in the U.S. while simultaneously strengthening the hand of the anti-gun coalition.
Although their goals were different than those of the German operatives of seventy years before, their methods shared much in common. Including, one should note, the ruthlessness and willingness to shed innocent blood to attain their objectives.
On March 7, 2018 at 12:58 pm, moe mensale said:
@Georgiaboy61,
I never said F&F wasn’t a set-up but it wasn’t directed at individual citizens as you initially stated. It was directed at licensed gun dealers just as you stated in your 2nd to last paragraph. Had F&F worked out as planned, there may have been banning of semi-auto firearms which obviously then would have impacted individual citizens.
But the reality was that 1) Mexican cartels preferred full-auto weapons which they easily acquired in Mexico, not the US and 2) Holder’s own FBI was involved in greenlighting the dealer sales to straw buyers which would have been difficult to ignore.
On March 7, 2018 at 7:24 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:
MM, OK – I think we’re on the same page… thanks for taking the time to write.