Information On Bump Stocks And Mandalay Bay
BY Herschel Smith
6 years, 7 months ago
Via David Codrea, this from Stamboulieh Law.
A few days ago (yes, days), I submitted a FOIA to ATF and FBI regarding bumpstocks and the Las Vegas shooting. Today I received a CD with 777 pages of information, which you can review at the following links:
What shouldn’t even need to be said is that I haven’t had time to slog and crawl through all of this information. A little reader assistance would be nice.
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On April 16, 2018 at 7:52 am, Fred said:
Maybe there is a nugget or 2 in all of this but I don’t have time. And anyway, It was clearly an op that went sideways. We will never know the full nature of that op. And the ban on bumpstocks is illegal. I’m not particularly interested in these data. Call me a closed minded ignoramus but actually, mine is the open minded position.
On April 16, 2018 at 11:17 am, ambiguousfrog said:
20 minutes I’ll never get back. Of course lots of redaction. I’m not big on the technical nature so I didn’t really read deep into any of the 4 links provided. IMO mostly technical data about what a bump stock is or isn’t when the patent was applied for along with schematics of M16’s and AR15’s. One minute it was classified as a mg, then later it isn’t (Akins Accelerator). And of course court cases between Akins and ATF.
There’s reference to Paddock having 2 DL’s (is that drivers license or dealer license?) from Nevada and California. He had total 47 guns housed at 3 different locations. From what I got from a section he bought 33 guns within a years time (Sept. 16′ to Oct 17′)? Not begrudging anyone from purchasing anything, but who the hell has that kind of liquid cash to purchase? I guess gambling really pays off.
Also, right in the middle of it all they show an e-mail thread discussing a suspicious guy making threats outside the WH around this time, perhaps they thought there was a connection between Paddock and this guy. But it goes on to mention all that the guy had in his car was legal. I found it strange but what do I know. Again, I’m somewhat of an enthusiast and not a historian on all things weapons/guns. Take my observations with a grain of salt.
On April 16, 2018 at 5:39 pm, moe mensale said:
Volume 4 includes correspondence from the ATF Firearms Technology Branch basically describing the operation of a bump stock in which both hands are required to operate it properly – one hand pulling and one hand pushing on the host weapon.
This completely contradicts the ATF’s current interpretation that a bump stock equipped firearm can be operated with just the firing hand. They’re now saying that once the first trigger pull is accomplished the bump stock becomes self-actuating until the trigger is released or ammo is depleted.
Unless those stocks have been redesigned since 2010 we all know that is a lie. A bump stock equipped weapon can’t go into “machine gun” mode – for lack of a better term – using only one hand.