ATF Bump Stock Inconsistencies
BY Herschel Smith
6 years, 7 months ago
From their position as stated on July 27, 2017:
“Bump firing is the process of using the recoil of a semiautomatic firearm to fire in rapid succession, simulating the effect of an automatic firearm when performed with a high level of skill and precision by the shooter… The rapid fire sequence in bump firing is contingent on shooter input, rather than mechanical input, and thus cannot shoot automatically”
From their position as stated on Sept. 13, 2017 (scroll to page 8):
“[B]ecause of the manual, skill based methods required to operate a bump fire device they are not machineguns.”
What has changed? Besides a political position ordered by superiors who would not be qualified to intern at the Firearms Technology Branch…?
Of course, nothing has changed, including the lack of integrity of the FedGov who cares not about officially approved lies and inconsistency.
From the comments there is this gem from someone named Dave Brown.
OK, when the pistol arm brace first came out we all said, better get one before they change their mind. WE all said the same thing when they said The Bump was OK. Get one before they change their mind. Me, I don’t need one as I have a few firearms I can bump without adding a stock, but even Bumping is considered a no no. As for Bump Stocks, they should never have been allowed, and you all know it. So quit being a Complainer, ask them to make a special Stamp for The Bump, and pay the price.
Of course, that’s true if you don’t believe in the second amendment.
On April 19, 2018 at 8:47 am, Ned said:
Right, Dave Brown, you moron – ( I mean that medically) – NFA is about a tax stamp, and nothing else.
That’s of course why so many of us own and use suppressors, which are quite useful. You have a few firearms you can bump without a stock? You just painted a target on your forehead. This is not about the stock. Try to grasp the big picture or get someone with an IQ over room temperature to explain it to you. Maybe move to Deerfield Ill. Their city council will help you understand.
Stop being a Quisling. You’re an admitted gun owner – semi-autos and all. You really think they’ll eat you last?
On April 19, 2018 at 9:23 am, Fred said:
Anybody with an IQ over warm butter knows that the Donald “take the guns first” Trump’s bump stock ban and red flag laws are an extra-constitutional framework by which to disarm you.
And, NEVER FORGET who started the extra-constitutional means by which to effect politics.
All gun laws are illegal and deserve derision to the point of laughing until it hurts. You want extra-constitutional? Fine. No more forms, no more serial numbers, no more stamps, no more permission slips, no more on camera purchases, no more FFL fees, no more anything. Be free. Every able body with a garage or a basement should be making their own firearms. The law, in the constitution and US code, demands it. The Natural Law of God Almighty demands it. Obtain all hard copy of all manufacturing and fabrication materials and vids, if you haven’t already. Even crappy ones, for in them may be the seed of a gem. Host a firearms fabrication and trading party in your neighborhood today. Defend freedom. And I strongly suggest that you not tell any NRA rat finks about it either. Fuck me? No, sir, fuck you.
On April 19, 2018 at 11:38 am, Gryphon said:
I have a “Pistol with a Brace” as a Substitute for an SBR and “Tax” registration. The Brace is very Useful when Firing from the Hip, but the Ergonomics of the Weapon make it highly Impractical to Hold it in any way to use the Sights.
I found that a (Very) High-Powered Green Laser on the Offhand Side gives a Daylight Aimpoint out to 50 Meters or so, and that’s a reasonable Range for freehand Shooting.
I Suspect that the Purchasers of any ‘AR’ Style Pistol may be targeted by .gov, as there are at least some Records of those Owners. Bump-Stocks will be harder to Track Purchasers, but I would suspect they will try anyway.
FWIW, My attempts at ‘Bump-Firing’ a Ruger Carbine (Mini-14) and a .30 M1 Carbine showed it is possible to Rattle off a Few, but without anywhere near the Control I have when holding them Firmly at the Hip.
So what we have, is a Naked Political Action against something that is essentially Worthless as a ‘Firearms Accessory’.
On April 19, 2018 at 12:01 pm, moe mensale said:
“So what we have, is a Naked Political Action against something that is essentially Worthless as a ‘Firearms Accessory’.”
But which, if passed, could allow administrative actions, even confiscation, against other firearm “accessories” up to and possibly including semi-automatic firearms themselves.
On April 20, 2018 at 10:05 am, Gryphon said:
Exactly, Moe, and that’s what We all need to Expect- a ‘backdoor’ Ban on Semi’s with it being Occulted in the language of ‘anything that Shoots Fast’.
Again, it always comes down to How Hard are (((they))) going to Try to actually Take the Guns? Do You have a Plan for when that Happens?
(I’m Not being Hostile with that Question, it’s one that Everyone needs to ask themselves)