More Rifles In The News
BY Herschel Smith
6 years, 4 months ago
TFB: This guy is saying he has built a rifle that is pulling .4 MOA at 600 yards, or in other words, he is repeatedly pulling 2.4″ spreads with the .224 Valkyrie at 600 yards. I know that the cartridge already has a reputation for being long range and accurate, but I don’t know if I believe this.
Ammoland: Big bore air rifles now legal for deer hunting in Arkansas. From what I understand, the muzzle velocity is around 800 FPS for these types of rifles. I don’t know if I believe this ensures an ethical kill. I think I’d stick to a higher muzzle velocity. Or in other words, a real firearm.
Proliferation of rifles a danger to residents and officers:
The chief said the initial investigation by the department’s Criminal Investigations Division shows Davis was shot multiple times in the back with a high-powered rifle. They were able to find the suspected shooting scene on Pettus Street, where multiple rifle casings were recovered.
Collier said they also found several 9 mm rounds near the scene. A 9 mm semi-automatic pistol was located beneath the victim’s body. The only suspect information is that two black males wearing dark clothing were seen running from the scene north on Pettus Street.
“At this point, we believe there was an exchange of gunfire,” Collier said. “However, it appears the victim fired his pistol at the suspects as he was fleeing.”
… the proliferation of rifles in Selma by criminals as the weapon of choice is both a community problem and an officer safety problem.”
So let me get this straight. The proliferation of rifles is the problem, not the criminal? And the victim was shot multiple times in the back with a “high powered rifle,” but still managed to get off several 9mm rounds at his attackers?
I don’t know if I believe this account.
When law-enforcement agents seek information on guns found at crime scenes, they call the firearms tracing center of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Agents at the tracing center, in West Virginia, then try to establish a chain of custody based on the gun’s serial number, manufacturer, distributor and retailer.
The agents pursue this task in the most inefficient, wasteful and time-consuming manner imaginable, manually searching records — about 800 million of them — because federal law purportedly prevents the center from organizing them into a searchable digital database.
This absurd prohibition needs to be lifted.
Well, in order to prevent this kind of inefficiency, I suggest dismantling the agency altogether as it serves no constitutional purpose and has no legitimacy.
If this isn’t acceptable, then I would suggest an alternative. Every employee must be required to walk or ride a horse to work every day, and home again, and the time left in his work day can be spent fulfilling requests from law enforcement. No, on second thought, no horses. Walking will reduce the probability I have to fund their medical care with my tax dollars.
On July 7, 2018 at 11:00 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:
@ Herschel
Re: “Well, in order to prevent this kind of inefficiency, I suggest dismantling the agency altogether as it serves no constitutional purpose and has no legitimacy.”
Here’s an alternative, with a twist. Since then-President Richard Nixon and Congress green-lighted the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms in the 1970s (since widened to include regulation of explosives in its mission), the BATF(E) has regulated, tracked and otherwise followed sales and use of firearms in the civilian marketplace.
However, this mission is incomplete. If firearms, et al. are dangerous, then why isn’t the BATFE tracking local, state and federal government ownership, use and transactions in firearms and other commodities?
Leaving aside the debate about the constitutionality of the agency for the moment, let’s simply play their game and follow their “logic” to its end.
If fed.gov truly believes firearms to be dangerous therefore worthy of federal regulation, tracking and other scrutiny, then what is the agency doing to track the millions of items of inventory now in the possession of the government, i.e., arms, ammunition, pyrotechnics & explosives, body armor, NVGs and IR devices, mil-surp equipment – all of it?
The American people deserve to know the specifics. After all, they’ve funded all of this largesse with their hard-earned taxpayer dollars. An accurate inventory – which agencies have it, where it is stored, itemized down to the bullet… that ought to be a good start.
In simple terms, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander! Just simple Saul Alinsky here – make your “opponent” play by his own rules!
On July 7, 2018 at 11:00 pm, MTHead said:
Bloomberg is once again, FOS. I work in a small gun store. The only record that is paper is the form 4473 you fill out at the point of sale. Which we have to keep for 20 yrs.. Everything else in the chain of custody is electronic.
The manufacture, and wholesaler records, are sent to BATF and retained as the BATF see’s fit.
And if there so busy, why do we get false gun traces? I’ve done gun traces on guns that I knew the owner, and that the gun was home in their safe!
I had one gun I sold new, customer didn’t like, we resold the gun on consignment. BATF calls for trace. I explain to agent the situation. He didn’t want the new buyers info! told me to send first buyers, unreal! Bloomberg. FOS fake news!
On July 8, 2018 at 7:40 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:
@ Herschel
“This guy is saying he has built a rifle that is pulling .4 MOA at 600 yards, or in other words, he is repeatedly pulling 2.4″ spreads with the .224 Valkyrie at 600 yards. I know that the cartridge already has a reputation for being long range and accurate, but I don’t know if I believe this.”
Competition shooter and firearms authority/author Glen Zediker is fond of saying in his writings, to paraphrase: “I don’t want to know the best group a rifle is capable of shooting, but the worst.”
In other words, maybe that shooter, equipped with that rifle, optic and ammunition, is capable of delivering 0.4 moa at 400 yards on that particular day at that particular time, and under those particular environmental conditions but can he do it repeatedly?
Many sports and competitive shooters are capable of extraordinary performance upon occasion, but far fewer are capable of delivering it consistently, day in and day out. Almost everyone reverts to the mean, whatever their typical or normative level of performance happens to be.
Technological advances in intermediate and long-range shooting over the last quarter century, however, have made levels of sustainable performance possible that were strictly the stuff of imagination thirty or more years ago.