House Democrats Plan Push To Criminalize Private Gun Sales
BY Herschel Smith5 years, 11 months ago
Via WiscoDave, as you knew would happen:
Mother Jones reports that Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA) met with gun control groups that included the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, Everytown for Gun Safety, the Center for American Progress, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, and Gabby Giffords’ group. He asked them what they wanted, and a bill to criminalize private gun sales was on their wish list.
So Thompson will sponsor legislation requiring a background check before someone may buy a gun from his neighbor, a co-worker to get a background check before buying a gun from a co-worker, and so forth. The bill will go so far as to require a son to get a background check before a father can give him a gun as a gift.
Expect it to pass the House, and I predict that enough GOP senators will go along for it to pass the senate. I also predict that Trump will sign it into law, but we’ll have to see if it’s this specific bill or some other version of it that exempts gifts between family members (which he’ll call a win and trot out as his protection of gun owners, demanding gun owner votes in the next election cycle).
On December 6, 2018 at 12:03 pm, Dave smith said:
Since I live in Mexico North AKA Arizona if I trade a peck of vegetables from my garden to one of my El Norte illegal Neighbors who happens to raise fighting roosters well I have to fill out paperwork on this rooster because it’s a fighting rooster?
On December 6, 2018 at 12:22 pm, Jack said:
Has been the law forever in the People’s Republik of Kalifornia.
If a gun control law worked, you would see the effect in the number of murders.
I challenge anyone to look at California’s murder rates and identify the date of enactment of any particular gun control law.
On December 6, 2018 at 12:33 pm, Towser said:
It is no matter whether it works or not. What will matter, in the end, are the unintended consequences of their actions. Their incrementalism will either enslave us all or backfire with tremendous force.
On December 6, 2018 at 1:11 pm, Randolph Scott said:
The bill should have extremely tough and non-negotiable penalties for any agent that is guilty of entrapment. The entrapment should made easy to prove. No what ‘is is’ shit.
On December 6, 2018 at 1:45 pm, billrla said:
There’s more. CA Assembly Member, Mark Levine (D-10) has introduced AB 18, Firearms: Excise Tax
Existing law creates the California Violence Intervention and Prevention Grant Program (CalVIP) within the Board of State and Community Corrections to distribute grants to cities and community-based organizations to fund violence intervention and prevention activities.
I quote:
“This bill would express the intent of the Legislature to enact legislation that imposes an excise tax on the sales of handguns and semiautomatic rifles and would require the revenue collected from that tax to be used to fund grants through the CalVIP program.”
Translation: California’s existing gun laws are ineffective, therefore, let’s enact more gun laws.
On December 6, 2018 at 5:03 pm, Fred said:
CA has Red Flagged more than a thousand people who broke no law since Trump and the NRA said that they don’t care about due process of the law. I imagine that the CalVIP program will include groups who will seek out and systematically get people Red Flagged. One phone call, poof you get swatted.
On December 6, 2018 at 5:17 pm, J said:
How many guns already have Transfered without this Stupidity?
And how many people will be made criminals because they can’t prove the Transfer date?
How many are currently Transfering because of this stupidity being considered?
And how many people will be made criminals because they can’t prove the Transfer date?
If they don’t use Serials Numbers as the Zero upon which to say…
“that could have Transefered Pre our Evil” There for this Deplorable can’t be criminal..HAHAHA
How many people will be made criminals because they can’t prove the Transfer date?
Personaly, I see a much more Sinister Motive and Outcome from this sort of knee jerk reaction.
Know your AO and the Traitors
On December 8, 2018 at 8:08 am, Talktome said:
No thank you. We need no more laws that purport to somehow combat an inanimate object doing something. This is a prime example of doing something that accomplished nothing. I guess it’s easy to pass laws. That they have a side effect (if being generous) of making formerly lawful activities unlawful, or eroding liberty… I suppose I must conclude that this is a feature rather than a bug.
The pro gun, pro 2A masses need to start referring to themselves and oppositions as pro liberty, pro individual. After all, means of defense is but one characteristic of free men and women. One cannot be free if one can not defend that liberty when encroached upon, yet this is exactly what these “human control” laws attempt to ratchet towards. I suppose I keep hoping the controllers will stop, but all evidence and stated intent that they won’t be satisfied until the government has sole monopoly on violence and force of arms. I’m sure that has worked out well for some country, but darn it, I just can’t seem to find one in the history books. Must be fake news.
On December 9, 2018 at 1:38 pm, Gryphon said:
What this does is Open Up any Citizen to having their Guns Confiscated if they cannot Prove to the satisfaction of the State that they were “Purchased Legally” .
One More Reason to have a ‘Backup Gun’ (or two) and Ammo well-hidden in some Secondary Location. Eventually, Tyrant Hunting Season will be Open.
On December 9, 2018 at 8:50 pm, June J said:
And expect the NRA to support this….
On December 11, 2018 at 10:06 am, Ron W said:
How will such a law be enforced without violating the 4th and 5th Amendments–which liberals used to support? And just as with illegal immigration, local and State LE cannot be required to enforce. Gotta have an ATF or FBI agent to catch a private transfer in the act?