Army Picks 9mm Subgun
BY Herschel Smith
5 years, 8 months ago
The Army has selected the sub compact weapon it will arm its security soldiers with and it wasn’t one of the big companies that have grabbed other recent weapons contracts.
Brugger and Thomet, USA won the competition over Sig Sauer and four other companies that had been vying for the job. Their APC9K was the winner, according to an update on fbo.gov, a government business website.
The small submachine gun is chambered in 9mm and variants of the weapon are in use with police units such as Special Weapons and Tactics, or SWAT teams.
The gun can fire in both semi- and full-automatic modes, has a collapsible stock and rail system for accessories such as aiming lights and lasers.
I don’t shoot 9mm, I shoot .45ACP. But if I did shoot 9mm it isn’t clear to me why you wouldn’t choose the Sig MPX. I’m sure they had their reasons, but those reasons may not translate to civilian ownership (e.g., cost). Also, for civilian ownership of that weapon above you’d have to drop the forend grip and the stock, or register it as an SBR.
On April 2, 2019 at 5:52 am, MN Steel said:
I believe the thinking, based on 85 years of past performance, is YOU won’t have it but WE will.
That is why THEY must be removed.
On April 2, 2019 at 8:31 pm, bob sykes said:
For close quarter combat, the absolute necessity is reliability. That trumps all other considerations.
Also, does anyone make a .45 ACP automatic machine pistol anymore? And how reliabilty were the Thompson and the grease gun?
On April 2, 2019 at 8:49 pm, Herschel Smith said:
@bob,
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that both 45 subguns were reliable, the Thompson a little more so than the grease gun.
My bet is that CMMG could easily turn their PSB .45 fully automatic, but of course, mine isn’t. But it shoots everything I feed it.
On April 3, 2019 at 2:19 pm, ExpatNJ said:
9mm is meant to standardize a ammo caliber for US-issue Beretta and NATO arms.
HK MP5, UZI, and many others (excepting the Ingram Mac-9/10) would have been very reliable, and possibly a better, make/model/brand choice. But, it seems a US-manufacturer was preferred, to facilitate ‘negotiated remuneration commissions’ (ie kick-backs).