The Hunt
BY Herschel Smith5 years, 4 months ago
It’s telling that The Hunt is coming from an industry that relies on fantasy depictions of gun use for so much of its profits and special operator class armed security for protecting its elites while simultaneously being such a major social and political influencer for disarming its customers.
I haven’t heard much about this silly tripe, but I did see one short clip where someone who was being hunted by Antifa was cowering in fear and trying (unsuccessfully) to hide. From this little clip, it’s obvious that the “hunters” don’t understand their supposed prey.
‘Nuff said.
On August 12, 2019 at 6:13 am, Fred said:
The object, yes every word and image in “entertainment” has an objective, is to create more hunters not to educate the existing ones. The Left already has programs for that.
For some weird reason people still don’t think that every idea and image on TV and movies is approved by State/CIA or Pentagon. Why will nobody understand this? This is why the movie should scare you.
And the Ammoland article asks who would win in real life. Well, the Left is planning to win. I don’t see that the Right has it in them to make all out war on their neighbors and government, and that’s what it will take. 99.999% of those on the Right still think that the Geneva Conventions and UN rules of engagement are a just and usable to code of ethics in war. The Right will lose, badly, and be bulldozed into trenches.
On August 12, 2019 at 6:24 am, H said:
Fred: To “create more hunters” by normalizing the idea that political differences should be solved by violence.
But step away from that black pill, 5 9’s of those on the Right not having what it takes is ludicrous. Starting with the assumption that there’s 100 million people here on the Right, you really think only 1,000 people in the whole country would fight effectively if our frankly genocidal enemy starts widespread lethal violence?
On August 12, 2019 at 6:43 am, Fred said:
Yup. Back the Blue and Support the Troops while following Geneva and UN doctrine. Nobody is going to fight back. Maybe some sporadic activity but nah.
The Right doesn’t even know that the Revolution is already underway. Cleaning out small pockets of handfuls of the self-educated will be easy for the Left. I would be shocked if even 1000 people put up organized and useful resistance.
People don’t know that it’s already started and they won’t believe it even AFTER the knock on the door. Enjoy the camps.
On August 12, 2019 at 7:43 am, H said:
Fred: my first response to you is unprintable, the second is to quote Jerry Pournelle again, “Despair is a sin”, the third is a strong suggestion that Eeyores have no place in a forum like this.
Or just do the freaking math. How many of this 1,000 you don’t believe exists are here on this forum? Are you saying for example none of you, Herschel, or myself will resist a genocide? [ The remainder of what I feel like saying is unprintable. ]
On August 12, 2019 at 8:31 am, Fred said:
I’m not despairing. I’ve got the joy of Christ Jesus in me. And “black-pill” and the other “pill” analogies are stupid, simplistic, and childish. I pray, I think things through, I read and examine history, law, nature, order, and creation, both from the point of view of the fallen and God’s Law. Having been saved by the blood of Christ later in life was a curse, now blessing. A blessing in one aspect is that I know the enemy, very well.
Why are you mad at me? I’m not going to any camp. I’ve purposed in my heart to die with my weapons, the plan being at a ripe old age of natural causes, at peace with my God, my neighbors, and my government. The choice rests first with God, and then if my neighbors and/or government decide of their own agency to make war on me, denying access to the means of war being an act of war, it’s war they’ll have.
Don’t be an angry and simplistic man; because anger causes a man to make mistakes and thoughtlessness causes a man to be over simplistic missing the complexity of the problem before us which is multidimensional and well hierarchically structured and has a strong belief system in their god on the Left, but chaotic and unstructured and Godless on the Right. Your best chance is that this lack of cohesion on the Right works to your favor. The Left’s god is a liar but they don’t know that and they hear and follow him willing to make mass extermination in his name all while not believing that he even exists. They are fanatics of the most dangerous order. The Right? Godless and lawless themselves are barely one degree from the Left thinking that race or the perverted right and wrong taught them in government run civics classes makes them smarter and righter. Pfft.
Are you willing to go full Cong even making war against those you have perceived by words and deeds to be on your side and look just like you? Most of those, only bluffing now, will fold like a low pair. Nobody is coming to save you.
At least I realize the depth of the hole that I’m in. My brothers in Christ, even the real ones, will turn on me in favor government without question whatsoever. The few that won’t, again, think that there is a moral way to wage and win a war. They are unstudied infants or Romans 13 supremacists, brainwashed by the now decades long progrom.
On August 12, 2019 at 8:44 am, H said:
Fred, in this genocide scenario you’d be at peace with “your” government which is trying to kill you and yours, and that you’d be making war in response against?
“go full Cong” means explicit use of terror through brutal torture and murder of innocents, especially women, children, and unborn babies. You sure you aren’t a Fedposter? I was raised Catholic so I’m not much of a theologian, but that doesn’t sound in the least Christian to me.
On August 12, 2019 at 9:26 am, Herschel Smith said:
@H,
I think you’re making a disagreement and fight with a fellow reader where there isn’t any.
On August 12, 2019 at 9:34 am, H said:
Herschel: I guess I should have taken the hint when you misinterpreted a commentator’s words and responded by doxxing him and threatening his employment etc. instead of seeking clarification. I’m not hardly so sure of my interpretation of Fred’s words, but “go full Cong” does not admit to much interpretation for someone who came of political age while the Vietnam War was still raging.
You’re blog, your rules.
On August 12, 2019 at 9:39 am, Fred said:
You’ve made both of my points. Thank you.
On August 12, 2019 at 9:47 am, Herschel Smith said:
“I guess I should have taken the hint when you misinterpreted a commentator’s words and responded by doxxing him and threatening his employment etc.”
Um … what?
On August 12, 2019 at 10:27 am, Fred said:
Ok. I’ll leave this here again. Forgive me AGAIN please Herschel, for the length.
Other men are designing your children’s future.
“If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.”
And when it is not possible? The LORD enjoins all that He commands! What does “Thou shalt not kill” mean, to allow killing with impunity? This is false.
There are a great many verses in the Holy Bible about peace and indeed Christ preached for his followers to be at peace with all. The question is, when a government has an articulated plan to leave you subjected regardless of if you are evangelizing for Christ or not, then what?
Most bible verses about submission and peace are in the context of persecution of Christians for their evangelizing or just because they are Christian. If it were persecution of Christians for being Christian that’s one thing to which I would say, crucify me in the town square while I shout the glories of the salvation wherewith Christ has made me free. But it’s another thing when your government seeks general gun confiscation to reduce all men to abject subjugation outside of any belief in God or not? This is not persecution for the glory of Christ Jesus; this is an intent of war upon you.
And before the American Church starts whining about Romans 13 let’s be clear; either the right of defense is ordained of God and no verse countermands another or we should have let the German government exterminate (their word) the Jews. You can’t have it both ways. Romans 13 does not amend the Laws of God, it is the Law of God and not to be trifled with on any small matter and this is no small matter my Christian brothers and sisters. The government(s) seek to be a terror for the purposes of accumulation of power unto itself against an imagined threat from a formerly free people and in so doing, their imagination is coming to life by their own fault.
Nobody killed more people in the 1800’s than the American Government. It fell back to the number five or six largest mass murderer spot in the twentieth century, but good news warmongers; we’re back on top so far in the twenty first century. You must be so proud. I know what government is capable of first hand, and since one of the most prolific mass murderers in all of human history, the US Government, has turned its ire against my freedom of defense by arms, I take the threat very seriously and so should you. What if you were forced to live in the same space with Charles Manson or Jim Jones and they wanted your guns, would you be serious about gun confiscation then?
“for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.”
As a first step, although war is not crime, the means, motive, and opportunity of your enemy must first be firmly established by their design upon your life. Self defense before a Holy God will therefore be justified. If you intend to take any measure, even killing all of those that would come, you better make certain, very certain, before God Almighty, that you are in the right.
We’re already at war. The Red Flag laws show that our governments are openly coming for the guns, an act of war. I doubt Americans will fight back. Just like Germany and the Soviet Union, they will do nothing. Florida counties are hiring and forming special task forces for Red Flag gun seizures. California has confiscated thousands of people’s weapons. And it’s happening in several other states as well. I believe that If Americans were to take up arms against these units and their creators and financiers it would be justified by the Laws of God, The Declaration of Independence, and the Federal Constitution.
In the Revolution for independence there was a ‘long train of abuses’ and only after years did they come for the guns and powder. Some are more strategies than types and some are more tactics but there are many forms of war; first generation, blockade, siege, weapons and munitions denial, fourth generation, blitzkrieg, attrition, germ, famine, third generation and on and on but denying the means to make war specifically in weapons confiscation, is definitely one of them, as doctrine and historically.
The Constitution now having been made void, the covenant before God made among men broken, the Law of Nations and the Law of Self Defense becomes every man’s duty. We are left with the Natural Law of God from which our nation was birthed, now dead, we return unto God and make ready. May the LORD find you preparing well this day. Amen.
Weapons seizures is an act of war. There are no more rules. When your national leader says; “I like taking the guns first” and immediately thereafter gun confiscations start in earnest, intent upon your liberty is clear. It’s a declaration of designation making you an enemy combatant; it’s a declaration of war upon you. As an act of self-preservation, “Thou shalt not kill”, the American people are now authorized offensive combat operations against their governments. There is a higher law. May He save us all, God is crystal clear on this; “Thou shalt not kill”, means that you are charged with the task to preserve all life, for all life is precious. We are NOT to allow ourselves to be made defenseless, ever. The LORD enjoins all that He commands.
America has become sanitized to warfare. We know it not. We haven’t fought a war in 80 years and yet we’ve been waring the whole time. That’s part of the practical reason why we aren’t alarmed by the current confluence of events. Our wars have been fought somewhere else by somebody else while we ‘honor the troops’ whatever that means. We’re doomed to repeat history.
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A war of self defense is a moral thing.
Fighting a war is an immoral act. The only moral way to fight a war is to win. Losing a war because you won’t fight to win is immoral; it’s war for the sake of warfare, or even worse if it’s capitulation even in the form of allowing swarms of heathen barbarians to take your land and rape your women, and kill your sons, and own your daughters, instead of defending your nation.
All moral decisions must be made at the outset which I’ve endeavored to make plain here but each man must pray and seek his own path. The decision must be made that the only solution before a holy and just God is to win. The Law of Nations and of Self Defense applies. He who breaks covenant and draws first blood is in the wrong. Having settled that, then, there are no more morality questions to be settled, its kill or be killed. This question of “how do we fight them?” is now settled. You now go about to kill them, there are no more rules. Nobody wants to kill somebody but self defense is an imperative.
You turn the entirety of all the forces that you can muster and all resources to the rightly natural task of survival and you kill the enemy. Then you kill them some more. You destroy their property and drive them out before you and then you kill them some more and then kill them some more again until the ones left alive submit completely. And if you have to go Old Testament (forgive me LORD) to ensure the perpetuation of your people, then you do it, all moral decisions having been settled PRIOR to the start. You do this because it is the right thing to do for your people and for your nation, for your posterity.
Losing is the single most immoral thing a people could do. The Geneva conventions, the UN rules of Engagement, the Oslo accords and, Nuremberg are designed to prevent a winner. They were created to ensure the perpetuation of the post WWII power structure. This is why America loses, it’s by design. And it’s unnatural and immoral, it is sin.
Giving a man what amounts to an eighth grade education, a rifle, and an inch thick rule book of field morality riddles and then expecting him to win is WRONG, it’s unjust. It’s harmful to the man and to our nation. The blood of every soldier’s suicide is on the creators of this heinous crime. May the creators and perpetrators of this injustice burn in hell forever.
Small wars, slow wars, fourth gen wars, slowly escalating wars, restrictive wars, wars on drugs, aerial wars, wars on poverty, wars on obesity, wars on terror, and the arriving war on guns are all bogus. They are for monetary profit and consolidation of power. We are all responsible for how we prepare and fight for our people. This is the Natural Law, and the Law of the Defense of Nations explained in the Holy Bible.
While it seems obvious, then why are we not doing it? No, not why isn’t our government or somebody else doing it, why are we not doing it? Your governments have declared war on you by the way of firearms confiscation. You’ve been warned. And just as a side note; I’m not a signatory to the Geneva Conventions, the UN is an antichrist, and I’m not even real sure where Oslo is let alone do I subscribe to some accord made there, and any small arms treaty our government falsely entered is void under the 2A. All rights are born of duties unto a Holy God with whom I make my covenant.
-We are all called to warn of the coming danger to our nation.
“If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;”
-If you don’t listen and act your blood will be on your own head.
“Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.”
-If you don’t heed the warning or if you do heed the warning, either way, there are consequences.
“He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.”
-If you don’t warn your brothers, your brother’s may kill you as a traitor, whoever you are.
“But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.”
You can take away my rights, the duties remain. Pity nobody knows what that means.
Is the trumpet not sounding?
Get right with God
Get right with family
Get right with health, including dental
Get ready, whatever that means to you and your tribe
The end is nigh upon us
– ProGunFred
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Further:
“But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”
And, I’m getting pretty tired of the conflation between dying for your faith to the glory of God and willfully allowing yourself and your family to be a victim of a criminal. Paul going to Rome knowing he would die and Peter refusing to be crucified right side up; these died for the LORD that you might hear and believe and be made the sons of God. These men died for evangelizing Christ. I find no account in the Holy Bible or anywhere in antiquity where Christians allowed themselves to get gut stabbed and their purse taken by a common criminal who knew nothing of their faith, or any other such example.
“And the LORD spake unto Moses in the wilderness of Sinai, in the tabernacle of the congregation, on the first day of the second month, in the second year after they were come out of the land of Egypt, saying, Take ye the sum of all the congregation of the children of Israel, after their families, by the house of their fathers, with the number of their names, every male by their polls; from twenty years old and upward, all that are able to go forth to war in Israel: thou and Aaron shall number them by their armies.”
All able of attained maturity must be trained and prepared to provide for the defense of Self, Family, Neighbors, Tribe, and Nation. Though not quoting in the prior sentence, as is Genesis 6:9 and the sixth commandment, this is a greater sense and foundation of the Law of God as to defense and war.
I offer into evidence that if every male able to go forth to war shall be twenty, that those men must have be training from their earliest “attained maturity”. And war, as we know, was a nasty thing of hacking men to death or being hacked to death usually to die days later. This takes years of preparation to be able at twenty. Although modern warfare has change much of this, self defense and ability to defend your family, tribe, and nation still requires much readiness, even from a man’s youth, perhaps especially so.
Those who use the bible to tell Christians they shouldn’t be armed, that they should be weak, pacifist sissies are wrong. And so are they who claim that the bible grants to the State an exclusive monopoly on the sword. On behalf of what State was Abram fighting when Melchizedek blessed him? Not all of the Holy Bible is written to us, but all of it is written for us. Meekness is not weakness. Study to find yourself approved and preach the whole counsel of God. (I suffer from a lack meekness, I confess.)
My greater point is; don’t be found among the unable when God numbers His men. And the numbering of His men is another scalable concept with many applications, as the Baptists say; that’ll preach. And don’t be found not being about our LORDs work.
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Two points, first; I find it unacceptable to allow yourself to be killed by tyrant or thief while there is work to do, and second, if we do as our LORD commands here then the likelihood of death by these is drastically reduced. The Word is a much better sword to wield, than having to a firearm, and may save us from being forced to finally, with great reluctance; accept the latter as given no other viable choice by those who follow satan. If you have to kill them you can’t tell them about Jesus, but if you tell them about Jesus they may kill you and this is to the glory of God the Father through Christ Jesus, but far more will marvel at the words of the Holy Bible that you preach and show them and many will be saved, no longer at war with you and God, to be your brothers. Oh that His church DO as He commands. “Go ye…”!
We’ve lost our country but we don’t have to lose our Christian, Western Civilization for you may not keep the one without the other. It’s not too late. Where is the righteous and godly indignation toward those of the devil that would separate us from our duties unto Holy God by which all blessings, including our rights, flow forth, from His holy throne of judgement? The resignation of Christians is most troubling. And therefor conversely, are they cursed who has resigned himself and his family, tribe, and nation to Churchianity. It’s a blood covenant! Go tell somebody what Jesus has done for you, oh and if that notion bothers you then quit ye like men and fess up that you know Him not and seek Him with all of your heart and soul, or if you do believe, then suck-it-up buttercup, and Go ye! Choose this day who you will serve!
On August 12, 2019 at 10:30 am, Fred said:
Further to just war:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Causes_and_Necessity_of_Taking_Up_Arms
On August 12, 2019 at 10:30 am, Fred said:
Further to defense in the face of Red Flag injustice.
https://reason.com/archives/2018/12/07/when-nonviolence-isnt-enough