Axios reports that Ivanka “has quietly been calling lawmakers since the El Paso and Dayton massacres to gauge their openness to movement on gun legislation when Congress returns.”
These calls reportedly included a conversation with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), who is preparing to reintroduce the universal background check bill he and Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) pushed after the Sandy Hook Elementary School attack.
One of Manchin’s aides told Axios, “[Ivanka] was trying to get a sense of what bills are out there. She had him explain how they drafted the bill, where it stands and what changes needed to be made in order for it to pass.”
The Washington Postreported Manchin saying Trump called him August 5 and “the two spoke again on [August 6], when Trump said he wanted legislation before September, when the Senate is scheduled to return.”
So you can prepare for universal background checks. It’s not surprising that his daughter had no earthly idea what these two sponsors wanted, what was in their bill, or why it had no legs before. Next up, Trump is contacting all the wrong people for counsel.
Amid a renewed push for all kinds of gun control following mass shooting incidents in three states over two consecutive weekends, the Trump administration has reached out to leaders in the Second Amendment community seeking their input, a marked change from the previous administration.
Meanwhile, the Washington Post reported that President Donald Trump had spoken to Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association. LaPierre, currently embroiled in the NRA’s internal turmoil, issued a statement that he is “not inclined to discuss private conversations with President Trump or other key leaders on this issue.” That statement can be found on the NRA website.
The same story noted, “A White House official said Trump had asked some advisers and lawmakers this week about whether the NRA had enduring clout amid an internal leadership battle and allegations of improper spending, as well as what his supporters would think of the bill.”
LaPierre and Gottlieb will only lead him down a path to more gun control laws and regulations. Once again, it’s not surprising that Trump thinks this will bring on board gun owners. Just talk to their “leaders” and they will “follow.”
He is a Northeastern collectivist at heart, steeped in unions, big government and big programs. But gun owners aren’t a union, LaPierre is only unpopular because of his refusal to use the power of the NRA to stop new gun control, and Gottlieb loves him some “smart guns.”
Some folks are still in denial, but there are cold winds, and by the turn of the year, we may even see sensible decisions reversed again by the ATF at the whim of a president who thinks we behave like hive insects, following “leaders.”
Comments
On August 14, 2019 at 8:39 am, Fred said:
“And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever curseth his God shall bear his sin. And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.”
This is the OT law of breaking oaths. The “Whosoever” applies to all among you, not just believers. Pagans will suffer at the hands of their own And believers shall suffer under the law of the believers, God’s Law. Well, that’s OT, were not under the law, you say?
“Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.”
This is the principle brought forward by our LORD. So, any pagan, such as Trump, who violates his own oath to whatever god he makes it, is a blasphemer of his god. And Christ goes on the say to us believers that we are to have no part swearing at all, but to simply stand on our Yes and No as men of honor before a holy God.
I will have no part with a man who blasphemes his own god, whatever that belief may be, because he can’t be trusted in any matter whatsoever and what is done to him by his own people is on his own head. Mr. Trump is a liar, and has brought evil upon himself, and he is cursed for breaking his oath. Of this I will have no part.
We all know this. A man who says he’ll do one thing and then does another is not to be trusted. It’s almost (sarc) as if the Holy Bible were the foundation of civilization, for even the pagans live by its law.
See how simple that is. Everybody already knows this stuff but having their minds darkened, America will listen to the devil, the god of humanistic moral relativism. America will burn.
On a side note, Washington State now permits “gender” neutral on it’s driver’s licenses. This is a sign of the Judgement. Tick Toc.
On August 14, 2019 at 9:30 am, Papa said:
Once again, I read of Ivanka the daughter being in the midst of policy operations.
On August 14, 2019 at 3:01 pm, Heywood said:
Go out and read the comments on other sites. So many idiots think people will pull the lever for the lesser of two evils no matter what he does. Anyone who draws a red line is called names, and accused of being a closet Democrat. I really don’t think the Rs have any idea how many people will just stay home if they betray us on guns. Nope…we won’t vote D…we just won’t vote. I think they believe we will show up because they are slightly better than the Dimocraps. They will lose the Senate and the Presidency and the Ds will have a bigger majority in the house. And they will have nobody to blame but themselves. But it does save me the trouble of standing in line!
I voted for Trump in ’16. It was the first time I had voted in a Presidential election since the farce election of Clinton 1992. I took a chance. I got played. Oh well. As Heywood said, I will sit this one out… and the next one, etc.
Trump is lubing up to fuck us on guns. Bet on it.
What should we do…? Hold our breath, stomp our feet and blow snot bubbles?
TPTB believe they owe us no loyalty. Then what, pray tell, do we owe to them? Obeisance? Abject submission?
On August 15, 2019 at 5:15 pm, Pat Hines said:
Trumpenthal is a feckless Yankee to his core. That’s why I didn’t vote for him in 2016 and won’t next year.
His throwing Self Defense rights under a bus at the behest of communists of which his daughter is a member.
Trump is a major disappointment on 2dA issues, and Ivanka should be deported to Israel with her Zionist hubby, but just name a Democrat candidate who isn’t much much worse…and Trump has started construction on the wall…
On August 15, 2019 at 7:59 pm, NorthGunner said:
Nope, not even close David and others.
Javanka is merely operating on what has been amply
demonstrated to be “care based morality” which is
something that the overwhelming majority of women
function with for processing and reacting to reality.
We’re talking about 94% of women..the other 4%
can and do work mentally via common sense, reason
and logic – kudos to them but still, too little and totally
overwhelmed by their emotions driven sisters.
That is why women, especially women in the fussa
have a total love affair with communism/socialsim…
they BELIEVE that equality IS the highest defining
value and believe the ‘merchandising adverts’ that
communism/socialism WILL provide the greatest
amounts of security and ‘free gibs’ to them and
their children (and any ‘disadvantaged poor’ that
are shoved before their eyes to tug at their heart
strings).
If the above is still not making sense, especially on
why Javanka is against such rights referred to in the
1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments and why her daddy is
being such an utter Tradcuck in pandering to her and
other womens emotions driven insanity please watch
the following video at the marked sections:
2:02:00 — 2:11:58
Empower women/give them universal suffrage and everything
DOES go to shit!
2:26:58 — 2:36:18
Trump: Three things we have to do to stop the violence of
school shootings:
1) Crack down on white nationalism
2) Red Flag laws
3) Work with the social media companies to identify people
who could be potential school shooters before they start
shooting
So, Trump wants to eviscerate the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments
to stop school shootings but not a word about ALL the shootings
that take place in Chi-congo and other inner-city shitholes between
blacks all the time?….
Oh right, those ‘black lives don’t matter’…because they DON’T
fit the narrative that Chucky, Nancy, Kamala, Corey, Maxine
and all the rest of the ‘corporate employees’ of the parasite class
are always pushing.
So, those that want to continue playing the street corner shell
game called ‘voting’ go ahead and vote for Trump again…it’s
not like he’s going to take our precious guns away, label white
people as the enemy or say we’re dangerous and need to be
identified as potential terrorists/criminals because we still love
America and what it originally stood for…that’d be just paranoia
and fear mongering…right?….
So,… are you ready now to ending women’s empowerment
and take their right to vote away?….
NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!
On August 15, 2019 at 9:09 pm, SemperFi, 0321 said:
Most people don’t want the truth, they enjoy being lied to. Most of my friends are still singing the praises of Trump, this will go right over their heads. And they will deny anything said against their messiah.
So what happens when the smoke screen blows away? You think anyone will even care? Just another day in political theatrics.
And the masses keep buying into it.
On August 15, 2019 at 9:22 pm, Grandpa said:
Those of us in the ‘American gun culture” (Henry Bowman, Prop.) already know, and have made up their minds. Or, surely should have by now. TPTB can pass what law they want, they can rant, rave, cry, scream, or whatever. Our response should be a yawn, and rolling our eyes. Why? Because we’re going to kill them. Think about that and what it means, and how it is dealt with once this excitement begins. We are nearly certain where all this leads, and so we must reckon in our hearts and minds – we are going to kill them. What we own may be hunting rifles, or self defense pistols, or ‘modern sporting rifles’ – or hunting shorguns, or SASS Cowboy action revolvers… doesn’t really matter, does it?
We own guns for a myriad of different reasons and motivations. But all of us understand that our guns are our ONLY DEFENSE AGAINST TYRANNY, and we understand why the words “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” are written into the 2nd.
Therefore, “they” can say, do, pass laws – whatever the blue fuck they want. They need to be aware, however; that the fire they are building is hot, very much so. And, if they don’t stop…
we are going to take those guns they want us to surrender – and kill them. And as sad and horrible as that is; it is the one thing we understand that they don’t.
It is mine. There are others like it, but this one is mine. And no, you cannot have it. I will fight you, and you will lose.
Simple.
On August 15, 2019 at 9:58 pm, NorthGunner said:
SemperFi, 0321
You know it brother.
The contest will be lost because the Tradcucks just
won’t let go of both egalitarianism and the herd
morality aka “muh principles”.
Case in point is the utterly cucked statement via Stewie
Roadshow about why his Oath-twerkers won’t be in Portland.
Cucks and cowards.
On August 15, 2019 at 10:54 pm, Lance - Colvard said:
I will not be renewing my membership in the Oath Keepers. Oath keepers should be in Portland Saturday; we can’t wait for Markus of Queensbury rules to be enacted – only nice guys can participate. Moreover I agree with Grandpa and NorthGunner above.
Semper Fi, ~Lance Colvard
Montana
On August 16, 2019 at 2:56 pm, JFP said:
I’m guessing this is why Oathkeepers aren’t showing up to Portland… the mayor has the police going after the organizers for “rioting” with antifa earlier this month.
Pretty much my entire circle of friends and close work colleagues and my family were all trump supporters. Pretty much all of them are gun owners as well. Not all of them are really into guns or shoot very much, but they all own at least a couple of firearms. The ones that are big gun guys, hard core about it, all voted for trump in 16 and most of those guys are pissed st him and have said they are through with him if he signs any of this shit. He really needs to pick better advisors because alienating this many of us is political suicide. A lot of the hardcore gun rights people I’m referring to live and vote in Florida too, and that’s not a stare he can afford to lose supporters in.
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On August 14, 2019 at 8:39 am, Fred said:
“And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever curseth his God shall bear his sin. And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.”
This is the OT law of breaking oaths. The “Whosoever” applies to all among you, not just believers. Pagans will suffer at the hands of their own And believers shall suffer under the law of the believers, God’s Law. Well, that’s OT, were not under the law, you say?
“Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.”
This is the principle brought forward by our LORD. So, any pagan, such as Trump, who violates his own oath to whatever god he makes it, is a blasphemer of his god. And Christ goes on the say to us believers that we are to have no part swearing at all, but to simply stand on our Yes and No as men of honor before a holy God.
I will have no part with a man who blasphemes his own god, whatever that belief may be, because he can’t be trusted in any matter whatsoever and what is done to him by his own people is on his own head. Mr. Trump is a liar, and has brought evil upon himself, and he is cursed for breaking his oath. Of this I will have no part.
We all know this. A man who says he’ll do one thing and then does another is not to be trusted. It’s almost (sarc) as if the Holy Bible were the foundation of civilization, for even the pagans live by its law.
See how simple that is. Everybody already knows this stuff but having their minds darkened, America will listen to the devil, the god of humanistic moral relativism. America will burn.
On a side note, Washington State now permits “gender” neutral on it’s driver’s licenses. This is a sign of the Judgement. Tick Toc.
On August 14, 2019 at 9:30 am, Papa said:
Once again, I read of Ivanka the daughter being in the midst of policy operations.
On August 14, 2019 at 3:01 pm, Heywood said:
Go out and read the comments on other sites. So many idiots think people will pull the lever for the lesser of two evils no matter what he does. Anyone who draws a red line is called names, and accused of being a closet Democrat. I really don’t think the Rs have any idea how many people will just stay home if they betray us on guns. Nope…we won’t vote D…we just won’t vote. I think they believe we will show up because they are slightly better than the Dimocraps. They will lose the Senate and the Presidency and the Ds will have a bigger majority in the house. And they will have nobody to blame but themselves. But it does save me the trouble of standing in line!
On August 15, 2019 at 6:40 am, Longbow said:
I voted for Trump in ’16. It was the first time I had voted in a Presidential election since the farce election of Clinton 1992. I took a chance. I got played. Oh well. As Heywood said, I will sit this one out… and the next one, etc.
Trump is lubing up to fuck us on guns. Bet on it.
What should we do…? Hold our breath, stomp our feet and blow snot bubbles?
TPTB believe they owe us no loyalty. Then what, pray tell, do we owe to them? Obeisance? Abject submission?
On August 15, 2019 at 5:15 pm, Pat Hines said:
Trumpenthal is a feckless Yankee to his core. That’s why I didn’t vote for him in 2016 and won’t next year.
His throwing Self Defense rights under a bus at the behest of communists of which his daughter is a member.
On August 15, 2019 at 6:34 pm, Donk said:
As they say over at WRSA, are you working on your local accountability lists? Well, here is your regional list; https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1296/text
On August 15, 2019 at 7:44 pm, pyrrhus said:
Trump is a major disappointment on 2dA issues, and Ivanka should be deported to Israel with her Zionist hubby, but just name a Democrat candidate who isn’t much much worse…and Trump has started construction on the wall…
On August 15, 2019 at 7:59 pm, NorthGunner said:
Nope, not even close David and others.
Javanka is merely operating on what has been amply
demonstrated to be “care based morality” which is
something that the overwhelming majority of women
function with for processing and reacting to reality.
We’re talking about 94% of women..the other 4%
can and do work mentally via common sense, reason
and logic – kudos to them but still, too little and totally
overwhelmed by their emotions driven sisters.
That is why women, especially women in the fussa
have a total love affair with communism/socialsim…
they BELIEVE that equality IS the highest defining
value and believe the ‘merchandising adverts’ that
communism/socialism WILL provide the greatest
amounts of security and ‘free gibs’ to them and
their children (and any ‘disadvantaged poor’ that
are shoved before their eyes to tug at their heart
strings).
If the above is still not making sense, especially on
why Javanka is against such rights referred to in the
1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments and why her daddy is
being such an utter Tradcuck in pandering to her and
other womens emotions driven insanity please watch
the following video at the marked sections:
TFM 42O: 8/7/2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r5gpyZPB-8
2:02:00 — 2:11:58
Empower women/give them universal suffrage and everything
DOES go to shit!
2:26:58 — 2:36:18
Trump: Three things we have to do to stop the violence of
school shootings:
1) Crack down on white nationalism
2) Red Flag laws
3) Work with the social media companies to identify people
who could be potential school shooters before they start
shooting
So, Trump wants to eviscerate the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments
to stop school shootings but not a word about ALL the shootings
that take place in Chi-congo and other inner-city shitholes between
blacks all the time?….
Oh right, those ‘black lives don’t matter’…because they DON’T
fit the narrative that Chucky, Nancy, Kamala, Corey, Maxine
and all the rest of the ‘corporate employees’ of the parasite class
are always pushing.
So, those that want to continue playing the street corner shell
game called ‘voting’ go ahead and vote for Trump again…it’s
not like he’s going to take our precious guns away, label white
people as the enemy or say we’re dangerous and need to be
identified as potential terrorists/criminals because we still love
America and what it originally stood for…that’d be just paranoia
and fear mongering…right?….
So,… are you ready now to ending women’s empowerment
and take their right to vote away?….
NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!
On August 15, 2019 at 9:09 pm, SemperFi, 0321 said:
Most people don’t want the truth, they enjoy being lied to. Most of my friends are still singing the praises of Trump, this will go right over their heads. And they will deny anything said against their messiah.
So what happens when the smoke screen blows away? You think anyone will even care? Just another day in political theatrics.
And the masses keep buying into it.
On August 15, 2019 at 9:22 pm, Grandpa said:
Those of us in the ‘American gun culture” (Henry Bowman, Prop.) already know, and have made up their minds. Or, surely should have by now. TPTB can pass what law they want, they can rant, rave, cry, scream, or whatever. Our response should be a yawn, and rolling our eyes. Why? Because we’re going to kill them. Think about that and what it means, and how it is dealt with once this excitement begins. We are nearly certain where all this leads, and so we must reckon in our hearts and minds – we are going to kill them. What we own may be hunting rifles, or self defense pistols, or ‘modern sporting rifles’ – or hunting shorguns, or SASS Cowboy action revolvers… doesn’t really matter, does it?
We own guns for a myriad of different reasons and motivations. But all of us understand that our guns are our ONLY DEFENSE AGAINST TYRANNY, and we understand why the words “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” are written into the 2nd.
Therefore, “they” can say, do, pass laws – whatever the blue fuck they want. They need to be aware, however; that the fire they are building is hot, very much so. And, if they don’t stop…
we are going to take those guns they want us to surrender – and kill them. And as sad and horrible as that is; it is the one thing we understand that they don’t.
It is mine. There are others like it, but this one is mine. And no, you cannot have it. I will fight you, and you will lose.
Simple.
On August 15, 2019 at 9:58 pm, NorthGunner said:
SemperFi, 0321
You know it brother.
The contest will be lost because the Tradcucks just
won’t let go of both egalitarianism and the herd
morality aka “muh principles”.
Case in point is the utterly cucked statement via Stewie
Roadshow about why his Oath-twerkers won’t be in Portland.
Cucks and cowards.
On August 15, 2019 at 10:54 pm, Lance - Colvard said:
I will not be renewing my membership in the Oath Keepers. Oath keepers should be in Portland Saturday; we can’t wait for Markus of Queensbury rules to be enacted – only nice guys can participate. Moreover I agree with Grandpa and NorthGunner above.
Semper Fi, ~Lance Colvard
Montana
On August 16, 2019 at 2:56 pm, JFP said:
I’m guessing this is why Oathkeepers aren’t showing up to Portland… the mayor has the police going after the organizers for “rioting” with antifa earlier this month.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/proud-boys-release-official-statement-after-portland-officials-target-and-arrest-conservative-pro-trump-patriots-before-saturday-rally/
On August 16, 2019 at 7:00 pm, Gator said:
Pretty much my entire circle of friends and close work colleagues and my family were all trump supporters. Pretty much all of them are gun owners as well. Not all of them are really into guns or shoot very much, but they all own at least a couple of firearms. The ones that are big gun guys, hard core about it, all voted for trump in 16 and most of those guys are pissed st him and have said they are through with him if he signs any of this shit. He really needs to pick better advisors because alienating this many of us is political suicide. A lot of the hardcore gun rights people I’m referring to live and vote in Florida too, and that’s not a stare he can afford to lose supporters in.