So Tell Me We’re Not Coming To The End Of The American Age
BY Herschel Smith5 years, 2 months ago
Via Wirecutter, this disturbing report.
In a Reddit post entitled ‘Question regarding abortion and breeding fetish’, one user reveals how she has “a female friend who has a really powerful fetish for breeding” and never used birth control.
“She is with a male partner currently who is just like her, into breeding and they have been practising their fetish for quite a few abortions,” the post reads.
“I know this fetish. My girlfriend and me have the same fetish. My girlfriend enjoys her pregnancies and she enjoys the abortion. Her preferred date to abort is between 20 and 24 weeks of gestation. I enjoy making her pregnant. And I enjoy the time of her pregnancy. She has no menstrual period and she is sexually very active,” he writes.
“In the last ten years in our relationship we have done seven abortions and my girlfriend is pregnant again with a little girl,” he adds.
Good Lord.
And then there is this report of Union Theological Seminary students praying to plants.
Students at Union Theological Seminary prayed to a display of plants set up in the chapel of the school, prompting the institution to issue a statement explaining the practice as many on social media mocked them.
“Today in chapel, we confessed to plants,” the nation’s oldest independent seminary declared Tuesday on Twitter. “Together, we held our grief, joy, regret, hope, guilt and sorrow in prayer; offering them to the beings who sustain us but whose gift we too often fail to honor. What do you confess to the plants in your life?”
The same article notes what Dietrich Bonhoeffer had to say about this place after his short tenure (before returning to Nazi Germany and being executed).
Bonhoeffer wrote they “are completely clueless with respect to what dogmatics is really about. They are not familiar with even the most basic questions. They become intoxicated with liberal and humanistic phrases, are amused at the fundamentalists, and yet basically are not even up to their level.”
Bonhoeffer remembered that students “openly [laughed]” at a lecture on sin and forgiveness, and accused the seminary of having “forgotten what Christian theology in its very essence stands for.” Disillusioned, he decided to return to Germany to resist the Nazi regime, where he was executed at the Flossenbürg concentration camp in 1945 for his role in the July 20 plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler.
So read these reports and tell me we aren’t at the end of the American age. Read these reports and tell me we aren’t at Romans 1:22-25.
On September 18, 2019 at 10:40 pm, Michael (from Utah) said:
Hershel,
I’m hardly the most ‘devout’ person out there, although I attend church weekly and enjoy teaching the Sunday School class my wife and I are in charge of. But I can tell you that even I can tell that something is seriously amiss.
And when I say seriously amiss, I mean it.
As a nation, we celebrate the perverse (homosexuality, trans-sexualism, etc.), we celebrate death (abortion, as you noted above), and we can’t seem to figure out who deserves our worship (Plants?, homosexuality, abortion, etc.). Then, those same folks CONDEMN those who, even weakly, attempt to worship the God of Abraham and accuse THEM of being evil for actually standing for the kind of morality we use to see commonly taught (sex within marriage, intact families, respect for elders, etc.)
The trends are very disturbing, indeed.
I, for one, do not believe America will survive. But, I’ve often been accused of being a pessimist.
I appreciate that I can come to your site and see a perspective I often do not see in many places these days. Thank you.
On September 19, 2019 at 7:56 am, June J said:
I make the comfortable Christians around me uncomfortable by wondering out loud how long a just God will withhold His wrath from a nation that has gone far beyond Sodom and Gomorrah. They don’t like to hear me say that America has doomed itself to destruction and will cease to exist as we know it.
On September 19, 2019 at 8:44 am, Dov Sar said:
June J is right.
And it is not far off.
During a parachute landing fall you have to look at the horizon when you approach the ground; you can’t look at the ground rushing up at you or you will get out of position and injure yourself. In the same way, you can’t look at the destruction of our nation as it approaches; you have to keep your eyes fixed on Jesus, and He will take you through it.
On September 19, 2019 at 1:49 pm, Fred said:
[They’re going to have to, at some point, ban the King James Bible. They always do. Buy extras and put them with your cache(s).]
And so, as is often the case, I apologize up front to our gracious host for the length.
Where to start? I suppose at the end and then work backwards. But first the problem of dumbed down, low IQ, story book “translations” of the bible that are not Holy.
Read Romans 1:32 down at the end of the Chapter. If your bible doesn’t say “worthy of death” throw it in the trash and get a real Bible!
Romans 1:32 “Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”
We all “deserve” death. If it were not so would it be – ‘appointed unto men once to die’?(Hebrews 1:27) And what then would be the Judgment and second death? Revelation 20:14-15.
Romans 5:12 “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
That “one man” is Adam. You are a sinner by your very nature. All sin is against Holy God. This is very important, pay attention; your sin is NOT against another person or against the State, it is against a thrice Holy resurrected Christ of Almighty God in whom all power and authority has been given! “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:…For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Ok, so we ALL “deserve” death and if you don’t think so then you need to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Read to end, there is a Hope. It’s a simple binary choice. Simple does not mean easy. Choosing this gift of God means that you have to let it go, all of it, and trust only in Him. Simple choice, but perhaps a hard decision because you are a sinner, be that manifested in your pride, arrogant disbelief or some other self righteous little pet in your mind that keeps you from God. Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” The choice is yours.
I’m warning you, take your NWO fake bibles and throw them in the trash!!! Get a King James Holy Bible, do it today!
So then, if we all deserve death, and we do, and we can know Christ and be saved, who then is “worthy of death”? The question here to ask born of Romans 1:32 is what value do the above (start in verse Romans 1:18 and read to 1:32) people have in God’s economy. This is important. It’s the difference between national blessings or national judgment with curses, these things in Romans 1 being a clear sign unto us of Judgment upon a people (land). The Law defines it and Profits proclaim(ed) it, now available to us for our edification and reproof.
But let’s look at why God forbade these things and demanded death for the people who brought them among His camp. Read Leviticus 20, I’ll wait…Why are these abominable acts not permitted and those wicked souls who do such things put to death? (as context; Nahum 1:2-3, Isiah 59.) Because it is first most sin against God, but we are sinners by our very nature, subject to being drawn toward these things, to enjoying these things to then living for sin instead of living for God. In God’s economy they then have NO VALUE to God and to our Nation? They are not simply harmful; they become harm, where help in a fallen world is the needful thing. Do you see that? They become not just deserving of death, but, Worthy of Death! Their value, or worth, is that as such that merits execution. (Before some hotshot in a fusion center gets his panties in a wad, the owner of this blog is not saying this, I’m not saying this, the Holy Bible says this.) The people have a right to protect themselves and their children from such and to do so before all of the unbelieving succumb to having their minds blinded (John 12:40 / 2 Corinthians 4:4 / Romans 11:7 / more) and be turned over to be reprobates; “And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;” Romans 1:28. (Convenient to God, in His economy!!!)
Yes, we are coming to the end of the American age, whatever that was. The Law stipulates and the Profits proclaim it, now for us to read and understand that “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” 2 Timothy 3:16.
Guess what boys and girls? The Law-Order of God demands that a sheriff should be rounding up abortionists and those who have abortions and be putting them to death at the word of 2 or three witnesses, along with sodomites and effeminate perverts and freaks, not only as defense of those souls yet to draw their first breath who’s blood the ground cries out for Almighty God to avenge, and He will, but also as general defense of the greater number of people lest all those yet to know Christ turn forever from God and live for sin and become blinded and turned over to a reprobate mind worthy of death never to enter into the hope Christ Jesus, never to have the salvation in God being regenerated, born again into the Kingdom of God, the massive majority of Americans, doing that which is right in their own mind who may then never know the truth and will suffer the Judgment, and God will require of every believer to know at that great and terrible day why it is that their neighbors, fellow contrymen, are burning in Hell, never having been told what it is that Christ Jesus has already done for them, paid in full, if that they might only believe. This is why God forbade the Hebrews, proclaimed again in the profits, and advises Gentiles in Romans 1 that such are Worthy of Death. Your relationship to God, the welfare of your society and it’s merely ignorant being defenseless against the coming judgment here and next, and the people’s mortal souls are at stake!
And the question becomes, as it was at the foundation of the world, whose head will this blood be on, the blood that will be shed at the coming judgment of America, and who is worthy by His blood to be the only atonement before it’s too late and you die in your sin or be handed over to be blinded never able to hear it, this truth of a resurrected Christ, and you burn forever?
Now, I’ve no idea who may be turned over, who may be elect if you believe in an elect, or who may need a Saviour this very moment, and neither do you, so a believers job is to tell as many people as we can about Christ. And so if you bothered to read this all the way to this point, here is the good news:
Although, as we’ve established, you are under judgment for your sin against Holy God, the price on your sin being wrath, death, and hell, today is a great day for you if you’ve just discovered that you are a sinner and that all sin is against God. The bad news is that you can’t do enough good stuff or good works to get into heaven. You can’t be a good enough person on your own. But God has made a way.
The Holy Bible tells us: “For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”
The good news is… that there is a mediator, an advocate, between God and man, the man Christ Jesus who IS good enough, and if you accept by faith that He will save you today from the judgement, wrath, and hell that you deserve, He will do it. “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
Jesus, the perfect, sinless Christ, God in flesh, never sinned; they could find no charge against Him. The Bible says God cannot lie and that Jesus and God are one,… They crucified Him anyway. “But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:” “Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.”
Our Lord died on the cross, crucified, to take your sin upon himself and impute His righteousness unto you, so that God, when He looks at you, He sees you justified, covered by the blood of Christ, your sin debt paid in full, if only that you would believe it.
“But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”
After the crucifixion on the cross Jesus was buried for three days and then arose from the dead, and later, He ascended back to our Father in heaven. He has defeated death and sin and hell and offers to you, this day, salvation from your sin. He has already paid your debt. Will you accept His free gift of salvation?
“And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.” Jesus ascended back to His throne in Heaven.
“But he [an Apostle], being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,”
“Behold, [Says Jesus] I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.”
God is the judge, therefor you cannot save yourself. Salvation is a free gift.
Eph. 2:8,9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
Knowing that it’s not a particular prayer or any Church you attend, and that it is no ritual, rite, or recitation that saves us, but that we are saved by the blood of Christ Jesus on the cross, who being a perfect holy sacrifice died for our sin once for all, for by grace are ye saved by faith.
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.”
Do you realize what it is that Jesus Christ has already done for you, paid in full, if that you would only believe?
His covenant promise is available today, for whosoever, for you “In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;”… If in your true and humble belief, in faith, taken on His Holy Word that by grace are ye saved through faith by our LORD Jesus Christ who wants to save you; if you believe these things and invite Him, He will come into your heart and save you this moment.
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
Lord Jesus, please help us to believe!
“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
Hebrews 10:12 “But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;”
John 14:6 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
Isaiah 55:6 “Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:”
The kingdom of God is at hand
John 3:15 “That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
1 John 4:15 “Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.”
Rom. 10:13 “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
On September 19, 2019 at 1:49 pm, Charley Waite said:
DOV SAR excellent, excellent analogy. Peace to all of you.
On September 19, 2019 at 2:36 pm, Dan said:
Fred, if you could only be concise in an online forum your words would be read and your message conveyed.
But you are not, they were not and the message lost.
On September 19, 2019 at 2:49 pm, Herschel Smith said:
I read Fred’s comment. All of it. It took me two minutes.
On September 19, 2019 at 3:24 pm, Bram said:
Like most things I read these days, I’m skeptical. But if true…
I’m not the most devout Christian here, but I have a healthy fear of the Lord and know I’ll be judged. These poor souls on their judgement day.
On September 19, 2019 at 3:29 pm, Fred said:
It is for thinking men, those whose concerns go beyond form within a blog post to function within God’s created order. The less you read the bible the longer it will take to parse, but I assure you, it was already lost on the lazy looking for a quick fix. Take the weekend, teach yourself something, Read the referred sections of Scriptures from a King James Bible, build the picture in your mind of a Just society. Understand why America was great, in that Tocqueville was not wrong, and why we are being judged and will suffer the coming wrath. It took Herschel 2 minutes because he knows his bible, he already understands the concepts to which I’ve laid out. Others may have to study it. And many still, even those who are my brothers in Christ, may be offended this day. So be it.
It’s an over one hour sermon, condensed. Break it apart, do the work, it will bless your soul and reveal deep truths the which you never knew, His word always does, not because it’s from me, it’s His Bible.
On September 19, 2019 at 4:02 pm, ApoloDoc said:
Sadly, this “KJV only” idea just causes further strife. Look, the language used in that is ARCHAIC English, it is NOT what we speak! Secondly, we have more reliable (= older) original manuscripts now, so the the translation begins with better source material.
This is too much like what happened during the Reformation when people had this “radical” idea that the Scriptures should be translated into common languages, such as English & German. The Roman church had been using a Latin translation for centuries, and few people could read or understand Latin! There were priests serving communion doing the mass, having simply MEMORIZED the Latin without understanding what they were saying!. Rome didn’t like the translation into other languages and giving up their power, so they BURNED MEN AT THE STAKE as heretics for translating!
I grant you that there are ‘paraphrase’ translations that aren’t very good, and they have started messing around with ‘gender language.’ But a good “word-for-word” translation such as the NASB or ESV are the best approach. There IS a nice quality to some of the KJV language, Psalm 23 still sounds ‘best’ to me in that version.
Speaking of translation, one of the central errors that Rome had came from mistranslation. Luther brought this out, as Rome used “penance” when the actual concept is what we now call repentance. So they built ritual around this idea of earning one’s way back into God’s favor, RATHER than the concept of turning FROM sin and TOWARDS God.
On September 19, 2019 at 5:48 pm, Red said:
Regarding the female and her multiple abortions, she needs to get fixed. She should never be responsible for an innocent human life.
On September 19, 2019 at 5:49 pm, Fred said:
First of all, I have a good, rock solid, sixth grade education, no college at all, no graduate school, no seminary degree, I gave zero credence to every word out my teachers mouths, they passed me on do to “maturity”. Quit school the day the State wouldn’t care to track me down. My father teached me to read. In fact, if not for spell check my writing would be largely not worth reading for the errors, YMMV as to whether it already is, heh.
I CAN’T understand the KJV AT ALL. Nary a word, not one lick, not one jot, not one tittle. I wouldn’t know Old English from Middle English from Latin from Spanish, from a king’s mule fart.
Now, another lesson since some of you insist, from an ignorant, not just uneducated but ineducable who ran wild as a child. Now go back, read what was written, do the work, break it apart and pay attention, and observe the power a Holy God.
Then answer this simple question; in Genesis 1 verse 2, what exactly is God doing hovering around in your perversion of a wicked lifeless child’s storybook? If you dare, further answer not to me, but to a thrice Holy God; where is the life, what creation is this brought forth in hovering around? How is this LIFE, How is this CREATION? Ask a resurrected Christ how you can pin the salvation of your children on hovering, ask Him how the hope of Western Civilization is made manifest in hovering.
This Bible is Holy:
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
Without form and void and darkness was upon it? Like the birth of a human soul. I’m reminded of Adam having life breathed into him. ‘And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.’ What does it mean when a spirit, your spirit made in God’s likeness moves upon an idea or belief, affects it, acts upon it? Fascinating, no? Is this not creation? Is this not Love, is this not Life? Is the power of God not made evident in His creation?
Hovering?!?! Surely your salvation, and the sentience to know it is not based upon that?
That’s just one verse, only the second verse in to the whole book. There are dozens upon dozens of lifeless, wrecked, and useless, even godless verses in the modern versions.
Perhaps you can’t understand the KJV because the Holy Spirit of God is not explaining it to you as you read it. You should find out about that.
Glory to God the Father of our Resurrected Saviour Christ Jesus, I’m reborn not of water, not of flesh, but of the Spirit of a Holy God, from the dead, reconciled, redeemed. Thank you God.
Hovering indeed.
On September 19, 2019 at 7:01 pm, James said:
That Reddit posting has to be a huge trolling effort; it can’t be real. It’s the sickest thing I’ve read in a long time
On September 19, 2019 at 7:02 pm, Garry F. Owen, Trooper said:
King James himself banned the Geneva Bible, a translation into the contemporary English language of the late 16th and early 17th centuries. His Authorized translation was authorized because he said so. That specific translation is no more, AND no less, holy than any other word for word translation. King James banned the Geneva Bible because of the explanatory notes in the margins which questioned the divine right of kings, among other controversial subjects.
My primary goal as a preacher and communicator of God’s Word is to make that communication as plain as possible. I do my part and trust the Holy Spirit of God to use my feeble attempts to proclaim the glory of the Gospel of the thrice holy saviour. There are stumbling blocks aplenty in this world without adding an archaic language when it’s not necessary. As the Apostle Paul said, “I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.” 1st Corinthians 14:9 KJV YMMV
On September 19, 2019 at 7:26 pm, Moe Coyne said:
Yeah. It’s over. The thought/s that it is rises and ebbs more with each day lately coupled with that it’s past likely Co-me, brennan, clapper, the cunt and its husband, the Muzloid…. Dept. of Just-Us and its armed jackboot proxy Famous But Incompetent, et al, ad infinitum will walk from the most treasonous conspiracy in the history of free republics and democracies. And lots more (less).
reading this reminds. Yeah, it’s over. Hope all of you are thinking about the rebuild post reckoning. I with Kith and kin plan to be back with a vengeance. just as Jefferson stated back on 13 Nov. 1787. It’s not about guys like me at this point. It’s about our kids and our first grandchild on the way. wife and i must have done something right. they both get it. and neither has reached 25 yet. and NEVER forget that he sees the same astounding depravity as we do. I believe He is with us through what’s coming. We must stop bickering over petty bullschidt – maybe the biggest problem “our side” must quickly secure and put to sleep.
On September 19, 2019 at 9:57 pm, Fred said:
So Trooper, should I have merely said that all people who have abortions need to be rounded up and executed? I can do it in three; kill the abortionists. Could I have risked a knock on the door from the FBI for what sounds like an ignorant emotional threatening statement? Are you like a Trooper cop? What should I have done officer?
Or would we be better served to KNOW why they are worthy of death and not simply deserving death as every sinner is? And how would either of those short and simple stupid sounding potentially illegal statements I could have made served Mr. Coyne who needs the information in my first comment to begin to understand how to rebuild his civilization? How do I know that the basis for a civilization can be birthed from the information found in my first post among other better and more detailed information about the Law structure of God, because it ALREADY has birthed two civilizations. See, thinking men, detailed men.
And I’ve no problem with the notes in the Geneva seeing as our Saviour is of the order of Melchizedek, I have my King and need no other.
Deserving of death and worthy of death is not a distinction without a difference. All deserve death, some need to be put to death now for the good order and safety and preservation of society. Is it any wonder that it’s all falling apart when some versions of the bible proclaim that sodomizing children is as equal to sipping a sweet on your deck in the cool of the day? The guy sipping his sweet tea deserves death by the federal headship of Adam, the perverts need to be put down like rabid dogs. The KJV makes the point.
How about; round up all the gun owners and execute them? See what I mean? Stupid and ignorant.
Respectfully brother, please consider my points here, Sir.
And just to be clear, I have zero desire to kill anybody, duly representative sheriffs of the people should do it.
On September 20, 2019 at 7:39 am, Darrell Cloud said:
Division over semantics as to whether people need to be dipped, dunked or sprinkled has divided the faith. That division serves all who would destroy us. The communists, the Luciferians and the Muslims will shoot coptic, catholic and protestants in the back of the head without any consideration for their different interpretations of the scripture. To them, we are all Christians.
It is time for all of us to heed the Lord’s command in Luke 22:36. We need to look to our portable wealth, our bug out bags and our common infantry weapons. Jerusalem has been captured 44 times through out history. Each time the remnant brought it back. The remnant in America can do the same. Millions still hold in their hearts and minds the ideals of the Republic.
On September 20, 2019 at 9:34 am, Garry F. Owen, Trooper said:
Brother Fred,
1- At no point have I ever suggested that you or anyone else commit a crime.
2- I am not a law enforcement officer. My chosen moniker comes from my time served in the United States Army as a Cavalry Scout, or Trooper.
3- The comment I made was on your fetish-like insistence on using the KJV Bible, as though Jesus himself spoke King James English.
Do I believe and preach that homosexuals and effeminates are worthy of death? Yes. So also are we. That is the purpose and necessity of grace. For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The only difference between you, me and the flaming homosexual pedophile is that we have been redeemed by the precious blood of our glorious thrice holy saviour. And through that gracious action, we have been given a new nature by which we now have the ability and desire to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Do not read into comments that which is not there. Be careful in the firmness of your convictions that you look for and make enemies where there are actual allies. In the spicy times to come, enemies will abound. You will need allies.
On September 20, 2019 at 12:51 pm, Fred said:
In God’s economy there are two kinds of people; them that believe on the LORD to the saving of their soul and them that don’t. Among them that don’t some are wholly wicked and perverse. God makes clear that He hates those people, has turned them over to a reprobate mind, blinded them to Him, and that they need to be, depending on the nature of it, put out of the camp or killed for the preservation and good order of society. Some people actively make war on God and they need to be dealt with. That’s what the KJV says. And that’s what the laws of Western Civilization have reflected for hundreds of years until recently. That is so that perverts and freaks don’t get a hold of your women and children and turn all of society to follow after devils.
God flooded the earth before the Law.
God destroyed Sodom before the Law.
God iterated why within the Law, particular to this conversation is Leviticus 20, and forbade these things.
God shows us in the profits the results of disobeying His Law in these matters.
God, Jesus himself, says the law and profits stand until He says that they don’t anymore; until all these things be fulfilled. (Last time I checked, He ain’t back yet.)
The Pauline doctrine reiterates Leviticus 20 in Romans 1.
If somebody makes me their “enemy” due to what the KJV says then that’s their problem. Perhaps they are an enemy of God. The Bible says what it says, our feelings about it matter not.
Everybody is fine with the KJV until you start telling them what it says and then it’s suddenly a problem. I’m pretty sure where the problem truly lies.
On September 20, 2019 at 5:19 pm, Fred said:
Trooper, I want to thank you. You have helped to clarify and even to crystallize something that has bothered me since I first walked into an American Church.
No, I’m not worthy of death, at all. Though I deserve death for my sin, my worth is not predicated on my sin, my worth is based upon the finished work of Christ Jesus on the cross. My worth or value now, as a reborn citizen into His kingdom is not that of death, but of life everlasting. And further evidence of my worth in the kingdom is based upon the reward(s) (value/worth) for my labor as a diligent yet needful servant of my King in His economy. If I were worthy of death, how could I be rewarded with any life or work in His name or any worship of Him at all.
What you’ve attempted to do is to make His grace of no account (worth/value) and to have me recommit to being dead in my trespass and sin and that’s a big fat problem. What you’ve done is to say that Christ and His blood is not sufficient payment (worth/value) for my redemption (worth/value) and that my worth remains that of death. What you’ve done, Sir, is blaspheme the LORD!
And every week, all across America in bible studies and church classes and pulpits those vipers of satan are scratching and clawing at the congregants trying to drag them back into death and hell by such statements.
I’ve many things against the American Church that I’ve laid up with the LORD, as though He didn’t know them already. I would be mad at you for trying leave me dead if it didn’t clear up an understanding so well. Man, I haven’t felt this good about what Jesus has done for me, maybe ever, I feel truly Born Again. I would be pissed at you for the blaspheme of my God if I weren’t so happy.
Thanks again and Ps. on Sunday morning go apologize to everybody in your Church for trying to drag them back into hell with you. And go get a real Holy Bible for crying out loud.
On September 20, 2019 at 8:37 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Honestly Fred, I think you and Mr. Owen are saying essentially the same thing, and I don’t think there’s a dime’s worth of difference between what you and he believes.
On September 21, 2019 at 10:45 am, Jeffrey E. Rominsky said:
**Thank You Heavenly Father & thank you Fred…. May God continue to Bless your Journey.