Can You Really Kill Feral Hogs With An AR-15?
BY Herschel Smith4 years, 11 months ago
Nina Pullano. The actual title of her piece is Scientists: No, you cannot kill 30 to 50 feral hogs with an automatic rifle.
So while the hype raged on, Inverse turned to the science to see if McNabb’s statement had any truth to it.
Turns out an automatic rifle would simply not be an effective way to get rid of the feral pigs ravaging parts of the country. That’s according to pig experts and Clemson University researchers Shari Rodriguez and Christie Sampson.
“They’re difficult to get rid of in a way that doesn’t educate them on our methods of mitigation,” Rodriguez told Inverse at the time. If you trap and remove most of a particular group of hogs, the others will quickly learn to avoid your tricks next time. To get rid of them, you have to get rid of the entire group.
“So while you may get an animal or two [with a rifle], it’s a drop in the bucket,” Rodriguez said. “It really does nothing to decrease the population of hogs.”
“Also, because hogs are so smart, they will habituate to that method and begin avoiding areas where they think they might get shot,” she said. “It’s not a long-term, sustainable solution.”
Instead, governments need to take feral hogs into account in policies that protect livestock from carnivorous predators, the researchers said.
Hmm … and this passes for research in academia.
Okay, so we have a few things to cover, Nina, Shari and Christie. First of all, an AR-15 isn’t an automatic rifle, at least, not unless it’s a machine gun that was registered before 1968. No one uses that for hunting.
The rifles in question are semi-automatic, and if you’re hunting a large population that groups together, that’s the preferred method. Furthermore, no one with any sense would prefer to have a bolt action rifle if a group of hogs enters your neighborhood and you need to protect your children. People have indeed been killed by feral hogs, and even in the daytime hours.
The question being addressed by the researchers and you are two different questions. You’re asking if it’s possible to kill a lot of hogs at one time with an AR-15. Well of course it is.
At his farmhouse, Campbell goes to his gun safe.
“It will hold about 40 guns, and I’ve got about 25 in there. But I’ve got some really neat guns,” Campbell says. “I’ve got my grandfather’s .22. I have an STW. I have an AR-15. I have a Smith & Wesson .22-250.”
Some of the rifles are for deer. Campbell has many beautiful shotguns because he is an avid duck hunter. He uses the AR-15, which is essentially the military’s M16, to hunt feral hogs. We go out back, and the judge lets fly with the semiautomatic.
“I’ve got a night vision scope on it. And the hogs only come out at 2 o’clock in the morning. There are certain spots they come out at. I drive up very quietly. I’m normally only 200 yards out, and I turn on my little trusty night vision scope and I smoke ’em. All of ’em,” Campbell says. “I can shoot 30 shots in eight seconds, and I’ve killed as many as 26 out of 30 shots at night with that gun.”
The question being addressed by the researchers is one of the strategy of population control, and that’s more complicated. What they’ve suggested, to wit, “governments need to take feral hogs into account in policies that protect livestock from carnivorous predators,” is completely infeasible, impractical and too expensive. It also wouldn’t do anything to protect the indigenous species, protect the potable water supply, or prevent crops from being destroyed. You do realize that all of your food comes from land where these hogs are a problem, right? You do realize that entire crops have been destroyed and farmers run out of business because of feral hogs, right?
They eat the eggs of the sea turtle, an endangered species, on barrier islands off the East Coast, and root up rare and diverse species of plants all over, and contribute to the replacement of those plants by weedy, invasive species, and promote erosion, and undermine roadbeds and bridges with their rooting, and push expensive horses away from food stations in pastures in Georgia, and inflict tusk marks on the legs of these horses, and eat eggs of game birds like quail and grouse, and run off game species like deer and wild turkeys, and eat food plots planted specially for those animals, and root up the hurricane levee in Bayou Sauvage, Louisiana, that kept Lake Pontchartrain from flooding the eastern part of New Orleans, and chase a woman in Itasca, Texas, and root up lawns of condominiums in Silicon Valley, and kill lambs and calves, and eat them so thoroughly that no evidence of the attack can be found.
And eat red-cheeked salamanders and short-tailed shrews and red-back voles and other dwellers in the leaf litter in the Great Smoky Mountains, and destroy a yard that had previously won two “‘Yard of the Month” awards on Robins Air Force Base, in central Georgia, and knock over glass patio tables in suburban Houston, and muddy pristine brook-trout streams by wallowing in them, and play hell with native flora and fauna in Hawaii, and contribute to the near-extinction of the island fox on Santa Cruz Island off the coast of California, and root up American Indian historic sites and burial grounds, and root up a replanting of native vegetation along the banks of the Sacramento River, and root up peanut fields in Georgia, and root up sweet-potato fields in Texas, and dig big holes by rooting in wheat fields irrigated by motorized central-pivot irrigation pipes, and, as the nine-hundred-foot-long pipe advances automatically on its wheeled supports, one set of wheels hangs up in a hog-rooted hole, and meanwhile the rest of the pipe keeps on going and begins to pivot around the stuck wheels, and it continues and continues on its hog-altered course until the whole seventy-five-thousand-dollar system is hopelessly pretzeled and ruined.
So as to the question of lethal removal, here is your answer.
Lethal control works. Alaska uses aerial wolf control to manage wolf populations as well as long term hunting and trapping seasons with generous bag limits. Wolves will have dramatic impacts on moose and caribou populations if allowed to increase in numbers unchecked. Natives in western Alaska will tell you that there was never any moose in western Alaska until wolf suppression was initiated. Moose in Alaska have been expanding their range because of wolf (lethal) control. State Fish and Wildlife personnel use aircraft to control wolf populations. Abundant moose and caribou populations are the result.
Your pig problems could be managed the same way. Aerial lethal suppression coupled with an open hunting season on pigs until you achieve the numbers, in terms of managed populations, that you want.
If eradication is your goal, then lethal removal is the only option. If the State is serious, your pig problem can be solved.
Remember, countless millions of bison, packs of wolves, plains grizzles and the prairie chickens (extinct,) were removed from the great plains with single shot front-stuffers (in large part.)
The scoped AR seems IMO, to be the best platform for ground based pig control. What fun!
As long as leased hunting property owners make money on hog hunting, as long as the use of firearms in suburban areas is frowned upon, and as long as ignorant people are taught that there is any other method to deal with this invasive species, there will be a feral hog problem.
When people get serious, for example, when there isn’t enough food to go around for urbanites, they will decide that feral hogs need to be killed. Until then, researchers are tilting at windmills.
This video shows what a scoped AR can do to feral hogs, even in daylight.
Something tells me you’ve never been in the bush before, have you Nina?
On December 29, 2019 at 10:37 pm, JuneJ said:
Lefty academics engaging in “research” are wrong so often I’m surprised even their heads full of mush students take them seriously.
Hogs have to be eradicated with semi-automatic rifles…boars, sows and every juvenile. Now if the whiny land owners would stop demanding willing hunters pay for the privilege of killing the hogs on their property.
On December 29, 2019 at 10:43 pm, Matt said:
Shaking my head after seeing that article. I’ve had to pass that on to a friend whom I spoke with earlier today about his feral hog eradication efforts this weekend. When I asked him how many hogs did he drop, he said “not enough”.
On December 30, 2019 at 10:54 am, Frank Clarke said:
Florida: no bag limit; no closed season. Bring it.
On December 30, 2019 at 11:18 am, CJ Crane said:
Funny how those “silencers” don’t make it where you can shoot the whole herd – need to be using those suppressors that Congress is talking about that makes shooting so quite that nobody can tell they’re being shot at!
On December 30, 2019 at 11:28 am, Ned said:
This is going to be quite a surprise to the professional feral hog eradicators like Todd Huey that use nothing but AR-15 platform rifles.
https://www.youtube.com/user/LoneStarBoars/videos
On December 30, 2019 at 12:11 pm, Lori G said:
I live in the wrong state! We don’t have feral pigs up here in northern Maine, so we have to raise them. It would be great to go out hunting when you need pork instead of slugging out to care for them every day, paying for the food, etc.
As for tame hogs, we use the trust M-1 as some of the larger makes have thick skulls, but my husband has also killed one with a knife after wrestling them to the ground after a .45 bullet bounced off the boar’s skull. The M-1 never lets him down.
On December 30, 2019 at 1:42 pm, Whoopie said:
Baiting a sizable quantity of Tannerite explosive can take out dozens of hogs with one shot.
On December 30, 2019 at 3:22 pm, Fred said:
From this:
“And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;”
To these:
“Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.”
“Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.”
“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.”
To this:
“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”
And we arrive at: Nina, Shari, and Christie telling men how they may and may not kill things.
Enjoy your barren women leaders, sodomites and barbarian invaders, you deserve them.
On December 30, 2019 at 7:56 pm, jack said:
It’s a shame that learning to use google isn’t a prerequisite for academia… Otherwise they would have found https://www.porkchoppersaviation.com/ or https://lastshadow.com/aerial-hog-hunting/
On December 30, 2019 at 10:48 pm, TheAlaskan said:
There ya go Jack. Good google’n’. Value-added hog.
Your hog problem is there to stay. Guess you’re all hog tied.
Now all you have to do is manage it…like we do our wolves.
On January 2, 2020 at 3:22 pm, Sanders said:
Once I get my .350 Legend up and running, it will be time to make plans to go kill hogs on my cousin’s farm in Texas, where I have an open invitation.
On January 3, 2020 at 5:53 am, Duke Norfolk said:
Lori,
I certainly hope you’re being facetious. Be very careful about what you ask for. I dread the day we start having this problem in northern Missouri; a day which unfortunately may not be far off.
As an aside, it’s interesting how similar the feral hog population map is to the Mestizo demographic map. We’re being invaded in more than one way. God’s hand may be in play here, for we have strayed far from Him. Frogs, locusts, hogs…
On February 4, 2022 at 6:13 pm, Stuart said:
Killing them is the ONLY method that is remotely effective.
https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/wild/nuisance/feral_hogs/
Scroll down to POPULATION CONTROL and read the first three lines.