Virginia HB 567: Indoor Shooting Ranges Prohibited In Buildings Not Owned Or Leased By The Commonwealth
BY Herschel Smith
4 years, 10 months ago
Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government; exceptions; civil penalty. Prohibits the operation of an indoor shooting range, defined in the bill, in any building not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or federal government unless (i) fewer than 50 employees work in the building or (ii) (a) at least 90 percent of the users of the indoor shooting range are law-enforcement officers or federal law-enforcement officers, (b) the indoor shooting range maintains a log of each user’s name, phone number, address, and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed, and (c) the indoor shooting range verifies each user’s identity and address by requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card. The bill provides that any person that violates the provisions of this section is subject to a civil penalty of not less than $1,000 nor more than $100,000 for the initial violation and $5,000 per day for each day of violation thereafter.
This is a strange one. It begins quite draconian, and then stipulates that it doesn’t apply to buildings where fewer than 50 employees work.
Why the cutoff of 50? I’m not familiar with indoor shooting ranges in Virginia. Are there any which employs over 50 people? And why would any of this matter? What do they think they gain with this legislation?
I’m not sure to whom this would apply? Or am I misreading this? Also, could it be that a simple change in the future (e.g., strikethrough of the number 50) might be the next step?
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On January 7, 2020 at 1:35 am, checklight said:
It’s not that the range can’t employ more than fifty people; it’s that more than fifty people can’t work in the building the range is in. I used to go to a range located in a rather sprawling building that housed several businesses; it might easily have held more than fifty employees. Or think of a range located in the basement of a multistory office building.
On January 7, 2020 at 3:15 am, Pete said:
Sounds like it’s directly targeted at the NRA HQ range.
On January 7, 2020 at 3:16 am, josh said:
At a guess, it’s directed at the NRA
On January 7, 2020 at 3:24 am, Beans said:
It may be due to an obscure definition of employee. Are club memberships, where the club members work for the club, considered unpaid employees? If so, well, there you go.
And it may be aimed at the NRA building, which does have shooting ranges in it.
Not to mention, any para-military contractor that, well, employs para-military contractors. Or private security firms. Both of which Virginia has a few of, especially private security firms.
Oooooooooo. Scary paramilitary people… Oh, noooooooeees…. Scary private security people.
And, yes, once you set limit number at ’50,’ it takes little to adjust the limit lower and lower, or make it settable by the local area, as long as it is lower than the state level.
On January 7, 2020 at 8:29 am, GG said:
This is the camels noze under the tent. Get this passed “seemingly irrelevantly” then change the fifty to 5 or 1 in a year.
The Dem Libtards are pressing the fight. They fail to understand the multiple Malvos and Dorners who will slip the leash. Two/three guys created that chaos….
I’m out of state and donated to the VCDL and bot a bus ticket for a rider to the Jan 20 rally. (I realize the pro’s/cons being tossed around on the potential for false flag.)
You might consider Paul Howe: http://www.combatshootingandtactics.com; Note his bio and article on the 2nd Amendment written in 2013 and posted on his site since then.
On January 7, 2020 at 8:33 am, jABLONSKI said:
Could be targeting the NRA headquarters, which has a popular indoor shooting range where they offer safety classes.
https://nrahqrange.nra.org/
On January 7, 2020 at 9:03 am, Fred said:
This is what war looks like. This is to keep the NRA distracted and busy trying to save itself. Good! Don’t interrupt this, the NRA is the government and the sooner it is destroyed the better.
On January 7, 2020 at 9:11 am, Fred said:
And also, this is an attempt to get the NRA to concede other, what the pols consider more important, legislation. I’ve seen this before but never as direct. Offer several gun control bills one of which either targets the NRA or it’s major donors (NFA investors, etc.), or some other similar thing. So the NRA will save itself, and throw you under the bus…Every…Single…Time.
On January 7, 2020 at 10:31 am, Mean Boy said:
It’s a good thing world peace has broken out and a representative of mommygov will be there in seconds when the brown stuff strikes the roto-oscillator.
This is the soft weak target indentified world of the mean girlz who just love them some foreigners.
What do you mean you voted and pay property taxes? LOL!
On January 7, 2020 at 12:32 pm, Badger said:
50+ years ago such a rule would’ve closed the JROTC rimfire range in the basement of the HS I went to. Any schools in VA have JROTC with their .22 rifle team range on premises?
They’re sitting around & just watching where the Good Idea Faerie lights; then they write it down. As said; it’s war.
On January 7, 2020 at 3:32 pm, Instugator said:
Academi, formerly known as Blackwater is HQ’d in Virginia. Maybe other private military companies too?
On January 7, 2020 at 3:39 pm, Herschel Smith said:
I thought Xe (formerly Blackwater) was located in S.C.?
On January 7, 2020 at 10:21 pm, WT said:
Xe (Formerly Blackwater) is in Moyock, NC.
On January 8, 2020 at 6:21 pm, Fred said:
Yep, sure enough, the NRA VA Lobby Day is the 8th. But first…say it with me S-L-O-W-L-Y; L-OB-B-Y D-A-Y, a day when rich people and heads of orgs petition the government(s) for temporary special carvouts during the nazi/communist long march. But, yep, the NRA will be well distracted trying to save itself and won’t be bothered by all those other pesky gun control bills. So, when the NRA gets to keep their range and other draconian gun control bills pass…