FLIR Discontinues All Civilian Sales

BY Herschel Smith
4 years, 9 months ago

International Sportsman.

According to an anonymous source that spoke to the BurstReview YouTube channel, FLIR will discontinue civilian sales of optics this Monday, January 20th.

According to BurstReview’s sources, FLIR’s board of directors and shareholders are anti-hunting and believe that only military and law enforcement should have access to thermal optics. This source also stated that FLIR allegedly laid off everyone in their civilian and hunting sales departments.

The sources stated this was further supported by recent events surrounding Armasight. Allegedly following FLIR’s acquisition of Armasight, they laid off all hunting prostaff and instructed social media personnel to never show any kill shots going forward.

This is very interesting news, and could turn the market against FLIR. Especially given rising tensions between civilians and militarized police that are seen as overstepping their authority.

But this is all hearsay until the alleged reveal date of Monday the 20th. Be sure to stay tuned for the latest information on this and other stories coming out of SHOT Show 2020.

And it seems like sources are confirming this.

This is continued movement towards and us versus them approach.  It’s not just automatic weapons, it’s not AP ammunition, now it’s FLIR.  When will it become magnifying scopes?  I think Matt Bracken has an essay using state control over scopes as an example, yes?  To a hunter, a good scope is a necessity.  To a collectivist, it’s the tool of a sniper.  To a competitive shooter it’s absolutely required.  To a statist it’s something that can be used against the status quo.

I’ll say that I don’t have any FLIR capable equipment, but I’m interested whether readers do, for what they’re used, and if there are any alternatives to the company FLIR.  This is a single company, not the entirety of the technology.


Comments

  1. On January 20, 2020 at 1:28 am, Pat Hines said:

    As of 0130, 20 January, FLIR products are still listed on Optics Planet’s web site.

    https://www.opticsplanet.com/flir-brand.html

  2. On January 20, 2020 at 8:50 am, Matt Bracken said:

    I’m guessing it’s not a coincidence that .gov is buying up all available Gen 3 NOD tubes under “eminent domain.” In the pipeline, and in the foreseeable future.

    And since I’m pretty sure that .gov already possesses thousands and thousands of Gen 3 NODs, I would surmise that this move, as well as no more civilian FLIR, is to prevent patriots from playing on a level field, come the boogaloo.

    And this, in turn, tells me that the .gov would-be tyrants still running the FLEAs are running scared.

  3. On January 20, 2020 at 8:50 am, NV said:

    yes there are other brands.

    Many of the recent ratings of high end FLIR equipment on Optics Planet were poor.

    There are other choices. They get expensive to own the night. One is none and two is one is really really expensive.

    https://www.nightvisionoutfitters.com/collections/all-products

    Cheers

  4. On January 20, 2020 at 11:10 am, Fred said:

    Wow, nobody said it yet. Ok I will; “FLIR’s board of directors and shareholders are anti-hunting and believe that only military and law enforcement should have access to thermal optics.” What, exactly does the BoD think Military and LE will do with them, if not hunt…humans?

    The notion that Military and LE are defacto just becuase they have writ of men is false. God is Just, and in fact, unjust wars and police states are the norm not the exception not only in America and the West but throughout world history. Don’t look now, Virginia.

  5. On January 20, 2020 at 11:37 am, Wilson said:

    Less hyperactive reports in the business world are saying FLIR will not sell direct to commercial market, commercial sales will go through ATN. There are business reasons for this mainly that FLIR direct commercial sales are trivial compared to gov sales.

  6. On January 20, 2020 at 12:15 pm, elysianfield said:

    Most of the “Kill Shots” we see nightly on the TeeVee are viewed through FLIRs….

  7. On January 20, 2020 at 2:16 pm, Charlotte Deplorable said:

    I recently purchased a https://www.flir.com/products/scout-tk/
    Pocket-Sized Thermal Vision Monocular
    FLIR Scout TK
    The FLIR Scout TK is a pocket-sized thermal vision monocular for exploring the outdoors at night and in lowlight conditions. Scout TK reveals your surroundings and helps you see people, objects and animals over 100 yards (90 m) away. Simple to use, with still image and video recording, Scout TK is the perfect companion, whether in the back country or your own backyard.

    Its a great little unit that i bought to augment my NV devices….

    I’m glad Santa gave it to me…better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it….

    I take it out when strolling neighborhood and camping up in the smokies and such, use it to great effect….

    only downside is the battery has to be factory replaced….

  8. On January 20, 2020 at 4:29 pm, Paul Scales said:

    What Wilson said makes sense. When a company signs a contract with the military they have to guarantee X amount for X years. It makes sense for a military contractor to have two separate operations if they are also producing for the commercial market.

    When I read “anonymous source” in regards to a youtube channel breaking this news I smelled BS. Though I believe the corporate boardroom is evil- I don’t think they as manufacturers would give up a slice of their market share without some legislation or similar gov edict forcing them to. It seems only distributors like Walmart and Dicks have done that so far.

  9. On January 20, 2020 at 5:27 pm, ragman said:

    I have an ATN Gen 3 WPT monocular. It works like a champ and is adaptable for use with a scope or holographic optic. Our elites seem to be soiling their Depends. The sheer numbers of guns, ammo, mags, optics and night vision devices are finally sinking in.

  10. On January 21, 2020 at 3:37 am, Dan said:

    I see a market opportunity. Someone else could come along and take over the civilian market….for both NV and IR. But yes….this has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING other than keeping technology OUT of the hands of ‘we the people’ in order to preserve tactical advantage for the
    criminals pinned to badges the commie demonrats plan on unleashing against us.

  11. On January 24, 2020 at 9:55 am, AZ Guy said:

    I specifically attended SHOT to speak with FLIR about some of their products. To say they were jerks to me would be an understatement and I actually walked away mid-sentence from one of their smug talking-heads. Fortunately, right across the aisle was US Night Vision corp and David there was happy to spend over 10 minutes educating me. He confirmed what someone wrote above, that FLIR is more interested in 50-pack sales to dot gov and dot mil customers. David also said that Trijicon has better firmware glue between the sensor and the display compared to FLIR and suggested the Reap-IR model. A soon as everyone gets back home next week, I will give them my business. usnightvision.com

  12. On January 24, 2020 at 11:17 am, Dirk Williams said:

    Most govt agencies use a ” lend/lease system offered by Crane Systems down in Mississippi, or La. Basically Crane globed onto thousands and thousands of sets of different styles of nods, then repaired any issues needed.

    Then lease em back to agencies.

    Like 100.00 ish dollars a year, that’s with a full maintance package incorporated. Hell of a deal for small agencies with even smaller budgets.

    Dirk

    My old agency picked up 30 sets of PVS-21s, minus the HUD attachments.

    I kept getting calls from the ops LT’s asking in depth questions about the 21s, they knew. I had a set ” hand reciepted” to me at my last resident Deputy post.

    Bitchen equipment. Zero zero distortion. I could drive my rig as fast as I wanted with no lights on, on very twisty roads, with zero visibility issues.

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