Democrats Say Rally Won’t Impact Their Plans For Gun Control Legislation
BY Herschel Smith4 years, 10 months ago
It’s nice to see that rally day in Richmond went off without a hitch. No infiltrators, at least, none who could really do any damage. The best part of all of this was the lack of false flags.
Rex Tibor said in one video that this was happening, and it’s time to act. I disagreed then and I do now. Don’t get me wrong. I sincerely appreciate the folks who could make it today. I had initially intended to go despite my belief that it was a perfect opportunity for a false flag event. I changed my mind when I found out about the cages. I reconsidered when I saw that the rally was big enough to accommodate armed folks outside the cages, but I had to work today. I think it would have been nice to be there with like minded folks.
But this isn’t the end. It’s only the beginning.
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Tens of thousands of gun-rights activists from around the country rallied peacefully at the Virginia Capitol on Monday to protest plans by the state’s Democratic leadership to pass gun-control legislation — a move that has become a key flash point in the national debate over gun violence
The size of the crowd and the expected participation of white supremacists and fringe militia groups raised fears that the state could see a repeat of the violence that exploded in 2017 in Charlottesville. But the rally concluded uneventfully around noon, and the mood was largely festive, with rally-goers chanting “USA!” and waving signs denouncing Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam.
An estimated 22,000 people attended, according to authorities, who said one woman was arrested on felony charge of wearing a mask in public.
But Democratic lawmakers — including House Speaker Eileen Filler-Corn and Senate Majority Leader Dick Saslaw — told AP the rally wouldn’t impact their plans to pass gun-control measures, including universal background checks and a one-handgun-purchase-a-month limit. Democrats say tightening Virginia’s gun laws will make communities safer and help prevent mass shootings like the one last year in Virginia Beach, where a dozen people were killed in a municipal building.
Ignore the lie for a moment – it’s irrelevant. The point is that the communists are unpersuaded. The safest prediction, since the democrats own the House Senate and gubernatorial mansion, is that gun control passes, including a ban on MSRs and magazine capacity limits.
Now the real battle begins. It’s going to be vitally important in the very near future for Virginians to know where their county Sheriff stands, or where there city police stands, and to know where their neighbors stand. The real work will be taking local county commissioners and Sheriffs out for coffee, fisking their true intentions, personal training, organizing a militia, and making sure that communities stand together when the time comes to defy the laws.
Defiance of the laws means no state agent arrests citizens for ownership of MSRs or standard capacity magazines. It means counties are sincere, clear-headed and intentional in their opposition to unconstitutional laws, and it means that they know the cost and are willing to bear it.
This will have to be done by Virginians, while everyone else tends to life back in their own communities and presses forward with the same sorts of plans. It was always going to be this way. A rally was never going to stop the controllers.
But what it does do is prepare the ground. When the state is surprised that there is armed opposition to enforcement of the gun laws, your community can honestly say, “We warned you and you didn’t listen. The warnings are finished, and froggy time has begun. Lie in the bed you made.”
On January 21, 2020 at 12:24 am, TC said:
Kind of a pity the D lawmakers homes didn’t burn to the ground during the protest today. They obviously don’t have any idea what kind of firestorm they’re starting.
On January 21, 2020 at 3:32 am, Dan said:
I am glad the rally went peacefully. It had the potential to get very ugly very easily if the commies had released their agents provacatuer into the crowd. However it was essentially a waste of effort politically speaking.
Coonman Northam and his commie accomplices in the statehouse were
NEVER in any danger thus they were NEVER afraid and therefore they were given ZERO reasons to reconsider their agenda. In fact the defiance
from the ‘little people’ likely only enraged them and now they will DOUBLE DOWN on the stupid and push even harder for more laws to destroy freedom.
The commies are like the Hollywood Terminator….
“It (they) can’t be bargained with. It (they)can’t be reasoned with. It (they) doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it (they) absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead!”
The ONLY way the commie left demonrats will EVER cease their never ending assault on America and our freedom is when they cease turning oxygen into carbon dioxide.
On January 21, 2020 at 6:10 am, Badger said:
I’ll guess the VCDL already understands that this isn’t a zero-sum thing & that a rally dissuaded any communists from their agenda. Plenty of work must continue. I will disagree with those who say it was of no value, however. Certainly it had value to those who chose to attend. That is something they decide on their own. Some serious imagery also went out to the world, and the on-ground word of mouth will be helpful. it doesn’t prep the current legislative battlefield; but has value as an info op for the other one that will come.
On January 21, 2020 at 6:49 am, Red in OleVirginny said:
Wonderful day. I agree it was never about changing the commie minds. But many fence sitters saw that we aren’t the problem. Adding to our support among the people is a very important part of yesterday.
And now thousands of gun owners know their way around the streets and back alleys of Richmond. Priceless.
One day Governor blackface will be out of office yes? If he doesn’t move to New York I’d assume a few Virginians will want to have an up close and personal exchange of opinions.
Peaceful and legal of course.
Red in OleVirginny
On January 21, 2020 at 7:50 am, Sanders said:
The message sent, is not the message the commies received.
What they saw was a bunch of folks who obeyed the law because…well, it was the “law”. So, they believe that their new laws will be obeyed as well, albeit with a little grumbling, but they can live with that.
They “declared” a weapons free zone. It was obeyed. They put up flimsy, chain-link temporary fences, and they weren’t torn down by those herded into the cages.
So, why should they feel threatened? When the tar and feathers come out, maybe they’ll finally understand just how fed up Americans are of their treasonous behavior.
On January 21, 2020 at 8:35 am, Kaiserworks said:
The controller were empowered yesterday beyond their wildest dreams. They can now pass the draconian laws with impunity. They know we haven’t the legal resources to battle all the antifreedom laws year in and year out. They celebrate and why should they? The crowd yesterday, way outnumbered and out gunned the police, they could have forced their way into the gov building strung up a few of the villians from lamp posts and that message would’ve stopped all anti freedom legislation in it’s tracks for a generation or two. But that threat is hollow and now everyone is home, pleased as can be with their selfies and new social media friends, yet the laws sail through. Only hard choices and hard times lay ahead of wasted opportunities.
On January 21, 2020 at 8:59 am, Fred said:
How many groups of young, organized, healthy men were there?
On January 21, 2020 at 9:56 am, X said:
Protests are controlled, carefully managed opposition. It’s a rigged game. The commies “let” graybearded Boomers march around and shout in the streets, because they know it won’t change anything.
If the protest starts to develop into some real action that actually puts fear into the commies, they will call out the militarized cops in MRAPs to kill you and then label you as a “domestic terrorist.” They’d prefer not to to that, of course, because it’s bad optics… not because they have any qualms about killing you.
The French have been protesting, and in some cases violently rioting, for at least a year. The cops have been gassing them and stomping them. And it hasn’t changed One. Damn. Thing. That little punk Macron and the globalist, multi-culti Establishment are completely unperturbed.
Northam and (((Filler-Corn))) are now going to implement their agenda. They won’t do a door-to-door confiscation… yet…. but if you don’t have an AR and a 30 rd mag by now, you’ll NEVER be able to buy one (legally) in Virginia ever again. 95% of this is going to be enforced at the retail level by licensed FFLs.
Up next: Washington State…
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/20/wa-democrats-weigh-ban-on-assault-weapons-50-cal-rifle-11-round-mags/
On January 21, 2020 at 10:03 am, Adino said:
Thank God the demonstration remained peaceful with no false flags.
I guess when thousands of armed patriots are walking shoulder to shoulder the antifa clowns do have a healthy survival instinct and keep their fists in their pockets and yaps shut. That too is a useful takeaway. Si vis pacem parabellum.
However, if the Marxist response doesn’t clear it up for you that Trad America and Marxist america have irreconcilable differences and a national union is, quite frankly, impossible then I just don’t know what will.
Divorce is the only option for differences as irreconcilable as ours.
On January 21, 2020 at 11:34 am, Herschel Smith said:
@Fred,
That question is better answered by someone who was there.
On January 21, 2020 at 12:19 pm, Fred said:
It was general, even philosophical in nature, and mostly rhetorical. The Left owns the youth.
More General:
The Left is creating at least 3 distinct armies; police, antifa, and the dot mil. The notion that the dot mil will fight for the left has to be recognized. It’s wholly owned globalist territory. A dot mil always turns on own after being co-opted. America is not special in this regard. The progrom is well underway at the pentagon.
The left has structure and organization:
They have a single or totally dominant religion.
They have Public Government.
Public faces, not government.
Public orgs.
Public propaganda and education.
Private governance (against you).
Private faces against you.
Private orgs against you.
Private indoctrination.
Leaders and training of all 3 armies.
Effective propaganda and education within it’s own ranks.
They are winning the pre war and they are winning handily.
The Left is making open gun threats that they only used to hint at behind closed doors. They are either aware of something that you are not, or your perceived weaknesses are becoming real.
And now that you have zero doubt they intend to bulldoze you into trenches and you have just been handed the basic outline of their structure; that only leaves perceived weaknesses becoming actual.
There will be no Lexington and Concord, there will be no public declarations of war and a mechanized rollout. The days of 2nd and 3rd gen warfare are over.
Red Flag laws, and your die-off are the path ahead.
Full spectrum warfare is being conducted against you while you endlessly pursue the carefully crafted narrative laid out for you by the enemy. You are losing, in fact, you’re getting whooped within every facet, at every hierarchical level necessary to prosecute a war.
So again; how many groups of young, organized, healthy men were at Richmond? The Left has millions of them and they are very well equipped and fairly well trained.
This is not meant to discourage. I leave this here as a friend, in hopes that the correct leaders(hip) will find it.
On January 21, 2020 at 12:45 pm, Bill said:
Maybe it’s time to send letters to their homes informing them how unhappy Virginians are with their politicians…. You can also carry them to their homes and tape the letters to their front doors..
On January 21, 2020 at 1:01 pm, Pat Hines said:
I, too, am happy no one was severely injured or arrested yesterday. I didn’t see this during my watching the streaming video on Breitbart, wish I had.
Someone constructed a guillotine and brought it to the rally.
https://media.fotki.com/2v2HHuTrLxQKds.png
On January 21, 2020 at 3:47 pm, MTHead said:
Yesterday was as prefect as it gets. Glad to say I was wrong about it all!
Is the war over? Hell no! Are the commies going to stop? Of course not.
But do you think the commies wanted to watch that? See their worst nightmare happen before their eye? Armed free people with enough firepower to have done anything they wanted yesterday. No one could have stopped them. Doing only what our forefathers told us was the best way. Living out the dream that free humans can and will control themselves! Without government!
No, Virginians thrust a sword thru the heart of the tyrant yesterday. And took the moral high ground without firing a shot, literally! Not even a AD for the media to report! The commie left’s narrative has been destroyed for ever! 1/20/20 proves them wrong on every point. We should not ever waste an opportunity to point it out to them and tag them for the liars they are! Richmond proves it!
I hold my manhood cheap that I was not there with them on Richmond Day!
On January 21, 2020 at 4:02 pm, MTHead said:
And if your a cop / military. You going to have the likes Martin Weissberger telling you what to do? Go arrest them and put them in the camps! Ya right. Not after yesterday.
On January 21, 2020 at 4:17 pm, Dirk Williams said:
What exactly was accomplished, politically, or tactically. Bunch of awesome folks carrying some pretty Kool kit. While I’m happy for those who attended, for their own objectives, I’m trying to measure what was learned, won, lost, what exactly did our side learn? What tangable results can be shared regarding outcomes, etc etc?
I’m just confused, I’ve been taught that if we are going to GIVE the enemy something, we need to TAKE something from the enemy.
Those who attended gave up their anonymity their now on print, named, bagged, tagged. In and of itself, a huge GIVE. What did we TAKE?
Dirt
On January 21, 2020 at 4:59 pm, Papa said:
The lines are very clear.
Declarations have been made.
The long game will roll on.
On January 21, 2020 at 4:59 pm, Just Me said:
Dirk, I suppose like most things the results are not immediately available, short term, this was a strong showing by lawful 2nd Amendment advocates. It showed we would get off our asses for something we care about, it also disputed many of the lies from the gun grabbers to the non gun people, we are not Nazis, klansmen or violent thugs.
It’s definitely not the end but we tried you going through the lawful, peaceful route. What happens next depends on them, they should choose well.
On January 21, 2020 at 7:17 pm, Dirk Williams said:
Gents thanks for your observations/answers. No mistake, I’m very proud of you all, who went and peacefully protested. I would have liked to have been their myself, I was hoping for tangable markers to have been layed down, something to grow from.
I’m just not seeing those markers. I’d also share this. Your govt is scared shit-less of you, and every man and woman who attended this gig. Blackface and his pajama boys were hiding behind some pretty impressive firepower. Ask yourself why?
These are not men, their fucking mice, they are men and women of privilege, of money. Their pure fucking scum, and they know it. The HUGE difference between our side and theirs is in our face. They were ordered to do this, by men without faces, whom also hide behind a private army.
Each and every attendee was present of their own free will, and determination. May seem ” Trite”, it’s not.
A moral, ethical, conscious, choice made individually, by 10k plus patriots, 10k stood tall for the good of this nation.
Hmm, I guess I’ve answered my own questions.
I’m in Oregon, we are one, maybe two steps away from where VA, is. The ONLY thing that saved my state last year, bought us time was this. Our entire elected republican caucus , walked out of the capital, to deny the democratic super majority the numbers they needed to bulldoze the 2nd amendment.
They own the vote, the only thing left to minipulate was the rule of law itself. Which called for a specific number of elected folk on the floor, to pass the vote. The republicans fled the capital. Actually my friends who represent my district describes it as a ” tactical retreat” his story his words.
This I know, the super majority of DEMs will not fall for this simple yet effective numbers minipulation again. Our gov mets every other year for sessions. So we’re good until 21.
But then what, what do we do, can only out flank the DEMs for so long. No, a punch in the nose has gotta be landed sooner or later. Here in Oregon, I’m not looking forward to that day.
I have known for years exactly my own response will be. Honestly my sandbox 101 isn’t very good. I’ve never been a follower, don’t intend to start anytime soon.
Anybody here know the story of Christopher DORNERS, a worthy read, yes mistakes were made, but that” Magnificent Bastard” turned the entire system on its tail for a respectable amount of time.
His application of 4/5 gen warefare was amateurish at best, yet look at what he pulled off.
I hurt, I’m going back to sleep.
Dirt
On January 21, 2020 at 7:22 pm, Chris said:
It’s time the patriots learn from the commies – look at what they’ve done to Trump’s programs for 3 years and then do it to them. Forum shop for a state or federal judge who will issue an injunction to stop enforecemtn of the bills. Scrutinize the process and if required notices, comment periods, etc. are even one day short, sue to make them start over. Start impeachment proceedings against the governor on the flimsest charges, or sign those petitions for recall. Tie them up for two years, then make sure every patriot votes to defeat the bastards. Maybe a few thousand can come to the state for a month or two “vacation” and register to vote, to help offset the wave of immigrant voters. In short, use their own tactics against them.
On January 21, 2020 at 7:36 pm, Wilson said:
Dirk, they did not lose their anonymity. They never had it to begin with. We are not anonymous, we are just ignored – for now.
I would say every gun owner – 99.9% of them – is known to .gov. They have all the data, they just haven’t bothered to look us up. Right now, unless a person attracts too much .gov attention, we are individually left alone and can pretend we are anonymous.
When it comes time to go into a local area and confiscate guns, then they will scan their databases for all the residents in that area and will know who is who. And don’t think for 1 sec that they will not use the FFL, NICS, concealed carry permit lists, etc. just because of the “law”.
On January 21, 2020 at 7:51 pm, MTHead said:
Well dirk. From a marketing standpoint. If you could that many people to respond in like manner to your stimulus. You could gage that for every person that showed up armed represented 50, 100, 2-300, such as yourself.
And even if the true believer commies dismiss it. The police on the ground didn’t! They saw who behaves themselves and who doesn’t. You think you could get that many Antifa in one place, with cleaner, friendlier results? Shut down enforcement before it even gets started. Remember what Solzhenitsyn said about shutting down the security machine?
Ask if your scared of Ralph in blackface coming to town? Or just his security force? That was the win yesterday. They were outnumbered and out gunned. And it only gets worse for them from here. And were just getting started.
On January 21, 2020 at 10:02 pm, Just Me said:
The hard truth is simply we outnumbered law enforcement over 100 to 1, if we were determined to be an armed mob, shy of mowing us down with Apache helicopters, there was absolutely nothing they could do to control us. They knew it and so did we. We are law abiding citizens that love our country, even with the had parts, we were not there to tear it down but to legally petition our grievances to our elected officials. It’s not time to push it beyond that yet…
There was fear mongering about killing lanes and buffalo jumps out there by alarmists but as usual they were wrong. It’s so much easier to hack away on a computer than gear up to show up and be counted on so that’s what they do.
Rights not used are lost, we are in for the haul and we will win this fight one way or another.
On January 22, 2020 at 8:31 am, Ned said:
It’s noteworthy that in bold statist form, a woman was arrested for the felony of covering her face with a bandanna, while police had their faces covered with balaclavas.
They like to rub it in our faces.
On January 22, 2020 at 11:28 am, Dirk said:
Wilson, MTHead, Just Me, thanks for commenting back. Interesting observations, 100 to 1!, I especially like this, it’s wrong headed, but I liked it. My friend, you saw exactly what uncle sugar wanted you to see.
Fed’s routinely have a thing for staging at smaller airports in the area. Be interesting to see if the locals did any sort of recon, for say, mil build up area’s, LEO air support, Antifa distribution and supply points, etc etc. ” I’ve read those turds were their, wondering is bus counts, and supply status was observed and noted.
Only a fool underestimates the enemy.
Today will be a awesome day of learning what you all learned. Part of my point yeste day was this. How can ” We” in Oregon use what ” You” all learned in VA, one can replace Oregon with multiple other states on the edge.
What was that ONE Golden Nugget, that would/could be used universally. ” or more”
Dirt
On January 22, 2020 at 12:38 pm, MTHead said:
Dirk, 1/20/20 was a one off. No need to repeat anywhere. If the commies didn’t listen it’s on them. It was the D.O.I. being delivered to the king. What happens next is on him and his.
I know how you feel as I just escaped so. Oregon myself. After 20+ years. All I can say is. The Williamette valley has a very long supply line. As does all of Oregon.
On January 22, 2020 at 1:48 pm, ExpatNJ said:
No commentary about this ‘rally’ from Matt Braken? I wonder why …
On January 22, 2020 at 4:02 pm, Wilson said:
MTHead, maybe the rally was a one time deal for VA, but that does not mean fighting these battles at the state political level is pointless. As some have posted, the VA rally did accomplish some things, such as debunking the socialist PR that gun rights people are violent lunatic racists. The soccer moms and other were seeing that fact. That’s why Coonman came out and tried to take credit for the totally peaceful rally.
There is an election in VA in 2021, Coonman is up. We should not be willing to just cede the political arena to the socialists, thats a big mistake. It may be a losing effort, its still a mistake to abandon it.
On January 22, 2020 at 4:46 pm, David said:
Be sure to red flag your local Democrat politician.