Open Carry In Speedway, Indiana
BY Herschel Smith4 years, 10 months ago
This video is long but interesting. Before watching, I have a few points to make to the chief of police in Speedway, Indiana. Yes, I sent you this link, Mr. Campbell.
First, your officers violated the constitution of the United States by detaining him without a crime having been committed. The original phone call didn’t report a crime, and you had no reason to suspect a crime. This wasn’t a “Terry Stop,” and you know it. Check with your DA. He’ll back me up on this.
Second, the officer on the right in the video is much too emotional for my tastes. I don’t think he has the temperament for the job. Additionally, he keeps talking about logic, and I don’t think he understands what he’s talking about. He should take a college course in logic before doing that again. They will explain the rules of classical logic, and how presuppositions and axioms are used to produce conclusions, or in other words, how to properly build syllogisms. The gun carrier you stopped didn’t violate any rules of logic in the video. He didn’t stumble into any formal logical fallacies.
Third, as to the officer on the left who kept talking about what the gun carrier was trying to “prove,” that’s an irrelevant line of questioning and makes no difference. It has nothing to do with anything, certainly not why he was being detained.
Fourth, the sergeant in the video asking the gun carrier to hand over his weapon for examination is the most nonsensical thing I’ve heard today. Any man who touches another man’s gun is an idiot. Any man who asks another man to handle his weapon is risking an ND, and is therefore an idiot. Any man who handles another man’s weapon (in a case like this) is risking an ND, and is therefore an idiot. I couldn’t care less if he is an “armorer” or not. The request was stupid.
Furthermore, the stated excuse for turning over the weapon, “To see if any modifications had been made to it,” was an invasion of his privacy and unrelated to his being detained. Your officers had absolutely no need to see his weapon. And finally, if he had converted his weapon into a fully automatic rifle loaded with AP rounds, less than a 16″ barrel on it, and an illegal can attached, it wouldn’t have stood up in court. I’m not going to waste our time explaining this since it’s all available if you review the Fourth Circuit case of U.S. versus Nathaniel Black (Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department). Ask your DA. He’ll back me up on this.
On January 31, 2020 at 4:25 am, Francis W. Porretto said:
— Any man who asks another man to handle his weapon… —
…is probably a gay porn star.
(Sorry, it was there. I had to. (:-) Keep up the good work, Herschel.)
On January 31, 2020 at 8:44 am, Ned said:
“Do you think what you’re doin is logical?” FFS.
It goes downhill from here.
Chief, if your officers are that stupid, please have them refrain from speaking. And tell them to stop larping as Vulcans.
On January 31, 2020 at 10:04 am, George 1 said:
Logic? He has no idea what it is. He has no idea how to apply it. He certainly could not tell you it’s origin or it’s components.
He is however very good at being a socialist enforcer for TPTB, by following orders like the good little low IQ state drone that he is.
On January 31, 2020 at 4:43 pm, 15Fixer said:
This is why you burn down the house to eliminate the vermin problem…. there aren’t enough rat traps, FLEA traps, glue traps, or bug-bombs in the world to fix this plague……..
On January 31, 2020 at 8:49 pm, Jack said:
And they wonder why people hate them.
These clown have zero intellect or ability to reason.
So typical.
On February 1, 2020 at 3:25 am, Dan said:
Badgemonkeys do these things and act this way for a VERY SIMPLE REASON. Because they can. There is NOBODY in a position of authority
that can stop them that WANTS THEM TO STOP ACTING THIS WAY.
Like the vast vast majority of the horrible evil abusive and frequently
ILLEGAL things that officers do on a routine, regular daily basis they
suffer NO CONSEQUENCES for their actions even when such misconduct
has been incontrovertibly proven to have happened. On the rare occasions
the victim of said abuses prevails in a legal action the ONLY people who
actually pay the price for this STATE SANCTIONED CRIMINALITY is the taxpayer. And as long as that is the very ugly but very real state of things
this type of flagrant abusiveness will not stop and will in fact become more and more common.
On February 1, 2020 at 9:48 am, Matt said:
It quickly became abundantly clear that what they were trying to do was assert dominance over him. I half expected them to pin him down and pee on him or start humping his leg.