Buddy Gharring.
I’ve heard a few arguments from people over the years that Jesus was in favor of violence, but, given a little context and in light of the bulk of Jesus teaching and action, they all seem to fall short.
“Jesus made a whip and flipped over tables in the Temple.” Yes, but that whip comment is right by the driving oxen and sheep out of the temple comment, maybe the two were related? Besides, the reasoning Jesus gives for His actions is not in any way condoning violence, rather seeking justice for the outsider: “My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations, but you have made it a den of robbers.”
What about when Jesus said, “I have not come to bring peace, but a sword”? Yes, He did say that. Matthew 10 starts with Jesus calling Talmudin (commonly translated Disciples) to imitate Him, live with him, learn through observation, and then sends them out to do the same work He has been doing all over the region. But before sending them off, he launches into a long speech about how they will be persecuted or mistreated. “They call me Beelzebub, what do you think they will call you?”
So yes, He did say that, but He wasn’t calling His disciples to use swords. He was giving them a lengthy pep-talk about the type of reception their message was going to get from people. At that moment, He was specifically talking about families being turned against each other. Do you suppose “Daughter-in-law against Mother-in-Law” was a call to bloody violence? Is that what he meant by bringing a sword?
“But Jesus told the Disciples to sell their cloak and buy a sword during the last supper.” Yes, indeed. And again, let’s remember the context. First, let’s pick up in Luke 22, following right after that buy a sword comment:
“’For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: “And he was numbered with the transgressors.” For what is written about me has its fulfillment.’ And they said, ‘Look, Lord, here are two swords.’ And he said to them, ‘It is enough.’”
Between Jesus’ comment about being numbered with transgressors and His replying that two swords are just fine for the 12+ party they had, I’d say condoning violence wasn’t the point. But in case you have any doubt, remember that later this night when Peter tries to defend Jesus with this sword they are all talking about, Jesus stops him, says basically “that’s not the way we do things,” and heals the soldier Peter attacked. This is the very same night in question. If He literally wanted them to buy swords (it seems pretty clear He didn’t) He definitely didn’t want those swords used on other people.
And that’s kind of the point, isn’t it? I know it is possible to own a gun that will never be used to harm a person. I know many people who own guns and do everything they can to ensure that no person would ever be harmed by those guns. But I have also met many, many people who have guns as a measure of protection against other human beings, and many of them also claim to be followers of Jesus.
Notice the Scripture twisting? Jesus didn’t drive out the oxen and sheep from the temple. He drove out the money changers. The “pastor” does everything in his power to claim that the Holy writ doesn’t really say what it says.
We’ve dealt with this before many times. By telling His disciples to buy swords, he is not only telling them to ensure their self defense, but also to directly disobey the magistrate. Owning and bear arms of any kind, including knives and swords, was strictly forbidden. Jesus was telling His disciples to ignore unbiblical laws.
As for his notion that one who has weapons needs to ensure that they are never used to harm another man, he of course rolls in criminals intent on rape, kidnapping and murder of women and children. This isn’t by accident. He intends to do that under the rubric of “turning the other cheek.”
So it would be redundant to rehearse this ground again, but we’ll do it for the sake of completeness.
God has laid the expectations at the feet of heads of families that they protect, provide for and defend their families and protect and defend their countries. Little ones cannot do so, and rely solely on those who bore them. God no more loves the willing neglect of their safety than He loves child abuse. He no more appreciates the willingness to ignore the sanctity of our own lives than He approves of the abuse of our own bodies and souls. God hasn’t called us to save the society by sacrificing our children or ourselves to robbers, home invaders, rapists or murderers. Self defense – and defense of the little ones – goes well beyond a right. It is a duty based on the idea that man is made in God’s image. It is His expectation that we do the utmost to preserve and defend ourselves when in danger, for it is He who is sovereign and who gives life, and He doesn’t expect us to be dismissive or cavalier about its loss.
…
If you believe that it is your Christian duty to allow your children to be harmed by evil-doers (and you actually allow it to happen) because you think Christ was a pacifist, you are no better than a child abuser or pedophile.
…
God demands violence as a response to threats on our person because of the fact that man is created in God’s image and life is to be preserved. It is our solemn duty.
…
I am afraid there have been too many centuries of bad teaching endured by the church, but it makes sense to keep trying. As I’ve explained before, the simplest and most compelling case for self defense lies in the decalogue. Thou shall not murder means thou shall protect life.
…
If you’re willing to sacrifice the safety and health of your wife or children to the evils of abuse, kidnapping, sexual predation or death, God isn’t impressed with your fake morality. Capable of stopping it and choosing not to, you’re no better than a child molester, and I wouldn’t allow you even to be around my grandchildren.
Indeed, all gun control is wicked. The Bible does contain a few direct references to weapons control. There were many times throughout Israel’s history that it rebelled against God (in fact, it happened all the time). To mock His people back into submission to His Law, the Lord would often use wicked neighbors to punish Israel’s rebellion. Most notable were the Philistines and the Babylonians. 1 Samuel 13:19-22 relates the story: “Not a blacksmith could be found in the whole land of Israel, because the Philistines had said, “Otherwise the Hebrews will make swords or spears!” So all Israel went down to the Philistines to have their plowshares, mattocks, axes, and sickles sharpened…So on the day of battle not a soldier with Saul and Jonathan had a sword or spear in this hand; only Saul and his son Jonathan had them.” Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon also removed all of the craftsmen from Israel during the Babylonian captivity (2 Kings 24:14). Both of these administrations were considered exceedingly wicked including their acts of weapons control.
John Calvin’s comments on this subject. We do not need to prove that when a good thing is commanded, the evil thing that conflicts with it is forbidden. There is no one who doesn’t concede this. That the opposite duties are enjoined when evil things are forbidden will also be willingly admitted in common judgment. Indeed, it is commonplace that when virtues are commended, their opposing vices are condemned. But we demand something more than what these phrases commonly signify. For by the virtue of contrary to the vice, men usually mean abstinence from that vice. We say that the virtue goes beyond this to contrary duties and deeds. Therefore in this commandment, “You shall not kill,” men’s common sense will see only that we must abstain from wronging anyone or desiring to do so. Besides this, it contains, I say, the requirement that we give our neighbor’s life all the help we can … the purpose of the commandment always discloses to us whatever it there enjoins or forbids us to do” (Institutes of the Christian Religion, Vol. 1, Book 2, Chapter viii, Part 9).
As for the pretend pastor, he’s probably unreachable with logic or the Scriptures. But I do have a suggestion for his wife or any future wife for the sake of his marriage. He needs to have a serious conversation with her and explain that he will in no wise ever defend her or protect her, or her children, from predators, kidnappers, murderers, rapists or other people intent on doing them harm. She just needs to understand that’s how he interprets the Bible. As for the her and the kids? Eh, they just need to turn the other cheek so he can claim to be holier than thou.
Pastor, please let me know how that conversation goes.
If in fact he is persuaded by any of this commentary and wants to become a man, there are ways to do just that (courtesy of WiscoDave).