A Police Reform Bill I Can Get Behind
BY Herschel Smith4 years, 5 months ago
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) introduced a bill on Thursday that would prohibit federal law enforcement and local police that receive federal funding from entering homes without warning through a “no-knock” warrant, which was reportedly obtained by the officers that shot Louisville resident Breonna Taylor in her home on March 13.
Why it matters: In the wake of nationwide protests against the killing of George Floyd, there’s now a bipartisan consensus that police reform is necessary.
Senate Republicans led by Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) are planning a package that would require states to provide data on the use of no-knock warrants, but Paul’s proposal goes even further.
House Democrats, meanwhile, have proposed their own bill that would reform police training, make lynching a federal crime, and ban chokeholds and the use of no-knock warrants in drug cases.
Would you really have expected that either the democrat or republican bills would have banned no-knock raids outright like Rand Paul’s bill?
Of course not, and neither does this bill have anything whatsoever to do with George Floyd. But watch it and see, and let me know later if I was right about this.
Rand Paul’s bill doesn’t stand a chance. The FedGov, StateGov loca .gov wants their ability to send in the thugs.
If they don’t ban raids outright, then everything else is window dressing.
On June 15, 2020 at 6:48 am, Nosmo said:
Sen. Paul should have added a ban on civil forfeiture to his bill, it would not have made it any “impossibler” to pass, and would have at least gotten more discussion and visibility for similar lawlessness on the part of the staatspolizei.
On June 15, 2020 at 7:50 am, Fred said:
No-knock raids are already illegal. What is the government going to do; super duper seriously really come-on guys please stop, mean it this time? Pfft.
The whole; we’re going to pass legislation to undo the unconstitutional legislation that we already passed thing, is a canard. Nobody at any level of government will be surrendering any power whatsoever except that that power be taken and returned by the people to the people and to the several states.
I’ve been watching the US Government for decades now. These laws, if passed, will result in the federalization of all police making the problem much much worse. That’s what they do. This federalization beyond just funding will be the final nail in the structure of that standing army we were warned against.
On June 15, 2020 at 2:26 pm, Secession Is The Answer said:
Sadly, Herschel, Nosmo and Fred are all correct. Policing in this country is a corrupt travesty of justice and as they discussed, nothing will get better and most likely it will only get worse.
Look at the murder of a citizen in Atlanta:
Mr. Brooks although he had hurt no one and damaged no property was going to be placed under arrest by the police because he violated a malum prohibitum law ( specifically some type of DUI statute ). Now the “Karens” amongst you will be shrieking that he was drunk in a vehicle, and yes I get that Mr. Brooks had failed to demonstrate good judgement by driving while intoxicated, which does not change the fact that at this point no one and no property had been killed, hurt or damaged. The only entity that was outraged, was the government and their armed private revenue collection/enforcement security force, i.e. the police.
In this case the two doughnut boys trying to arrest him, both obviously use to typically compliant US citizen-serfs, who have limited or no options, and reluctantly turn over to the police whatever monies and property the police claim to be entitled to ( yeah – civil asset forfeiture – yet another unconstitutional police action ) , were not expecting Mr. Brooks to take offense at being arrested and handcuffed. Mr. Brooks promptly threw off both of the incompetent armed government workers, took the taser from one and exited stage left.
Now us citizen-serfs who practice/follow the 2nd amendment and know the actual reality of how we will be treated by the kangaroo court system we call the US justice system, know at this point the game is over and we can only wave and wish the rapidly retreating Mr. Brooks a “vaya con Dios!” We serfs cannot shoot at someone retreating.
However, the armed government worker doughnut boys – well, there’s a completely different set of rules for them! So having gotten their a$$es kicked by Mr. Brooks and not wanting to be seen as the incompetent idiots that they are, give chase after Mr. Brooks.
Mr. Brooks who according to the police is intoxicated?? – commits another lapse of judgement and points the taser-gun (which the police and most of America know is non-lethal (yes there are exceptions Karen)) at the armed government workers pursuing him, which the pursuing doughnut boys recognize as their “police get out of jail free” card being deployed. They “feared for their lives” and so they open fire with real pistols and kill Mr. Brooks.
What in any of this justifies the use of deadly force on Mr. Brooks? Absolutely nothing! The police had ID’d him, had his car, knew where he lived.
The facts are that the police and government own this and have it coming. There are no good cops, there are only bad and/or psychopathic cops and then there are the rest of the cops who sit by and accept these abuses and corruption and do nothing about it. In Minneapolis, 3 other cops stood by and let that pyscho cop kneel on the neck of a handcuffed person for over 8 minutes and did nothing! How is that acceptable to anyone! Search the web for the murder of Daniel Shaver.
I do not support the looting, burning and destruction of private property, but I am totally in support of the folks who are outraged and done with allowing the corrupt and repellent police forces in this country to continue!
On June 15, 2020 at 6:41 pm, penses said:
In the words of Jefferson Davis, all we ever asked was to be left alone.
Go out in public and count the number of your enemies. They all wear masks. All of them afraid of a ghost created by the deep state. Trusting Big Brother instead of God. Now people are in the streets for all the wrong reasons. Instead of rebelling and fighting for their freedom, rioters are in the street fighting for the deep state to enslave them.
There is a picture at Legal Insurrection of over 100 non-violent defenders of the Alamo. Thousands show up in Richmond, Virginia, and the only disturbances come from a handful of ANTIFA infiltrators. Inspiring but at the same time sobering. This is what it has come to. Law abiding peaceful citizens labeled the greatest threat to national security.
On June 15, 2020 at 8:11 pm, Ned2 said:
If the police had to succumb to the same laws we do regarding firearms (which are all bullshit), that might change things. Otherwise, their protected status will persist and they will continue to abuse our rights.
Most LEO’s I know agree with this. They are not held to account the same way we are.
On June 18, 2020 at 7:56 am, penses said:
2019 annual statistics of people shot and killed by police:
1,003 Total
405 White
250 Black
163 Hispanic
41 Other
144 Unknown
55 of the 1,003 were unarmed
25 White
14 Black
11 Hispanic
5 Other
0 Unknown
It would be interesting to find out how many were no knock/red flag murders.