There Is A Difference Between Inflicting Wanton Animal Cruelty And Hunting
BY Herschel Smith
4 years, 4 months ago
Via reader Ned, BLM news.
Black Lives Matter supporters ran over a raccoon twice before beating it to death with a baseball bat in a horrific and senseless act of animal cruelty before posting the video online and saying people should “worry about the police killing Black people” and “treating us like animals.”
“James Blue”, the person who filmed the violence, attempted to justify the animal cruelty by saying that “Black lives matter” and “Only white people worry about animals.”
The disturbing incident took place in New York City, as onlookers watched and cheered the sickening attack on a defenseless animal.
The alleged niece of one of the perpetrators replied “Worry about the police killing Black people” before dismissing the brutal and unnecessary killing of the raccoon, saying “only white peoples worry about this.”
That difference in practice is called the “ethical kill.” All legitimate hunters care about that. An ethical kill means you kill with minimal pain and suffering, and you process the animal you just harvested for food.
The difference in people is called a conscience that hasn’t been seared.
On to another issue, is there any doubt they would do this to people?
On August 21, 2020 at 12:40 pm, 41mag said:
Ethics are in hunting, and the hunting community doesn’t suffer fools like this retard. You’re gone and likely have fines placed on you. I read the AZ GFD commission meeting agendas. Last items of business involve laying / approving fines for cruelty or violating hunting season rules (not arguing for or against here)
You’d be surprised at the idiocy of some people when it comes to animals.
On August 21, 2020 at 1:26 pm, Fred said:
The notion of New York City negros coon hunting within the city is well; 2020 is a parody of itself.
On August 21, 2020 at 1:37 pm, John said:
It’s a known fact that serial killers start out by torturing small animals to death and build up to
doing it to people. Here it appears we have a grouping revealed in their practice stage.
On August 21, 2020 at 1:46 pm, Herschel Smith said:
@John,
Yes. ^^^ THIS ^^^
On August 21, 2020 at 1:49 pm, 41mag said:
@John
Ask any Clinical Therapist and they’ll agree, that’s where it starts.
On August 21, 2020 at 2:13 pm, Bad_Brad said:
I hunt ducks and Bow Hunt Deer and Pigs. SO ethically killing an animal does not bother me. These aren’t people. This is a case of unhinged evil predators torturing and killing a defenseless animal. Every comment above is spot on. I’d like to add, in the long run, stunts like this would eliminate any hesitation before the trigger press.
On August 21, 2020 at 4:13 pm, James said:
I really hope the folks involved in this suffer the same end result.
On August 21, 2020 at 5:01 pm, Sheepdog said:
Animals are far more evolved than these oxygen thieves.
Wishing them the most lingering and excruciating demise possible…
On August 21, 2020 at 5:22 pm, Ron said:
just thinking there may be a wildlife law they were violating such that they could be prosecuted.
On August 21, 2020 at 6:18 pm, Ned2 said:
@ Ron
Prosecuting these ingrates will amount to nothing. Persecuting them on the other hand…………….
You can deduce everything about someone in how they treat animals.
On August 21, 2020 at 10:11 pm, Stealth Spaniel said:
The only “justice” this bastards deserve are brass projectiles slowly and surely fired at them: starting with their knees and work your way up. I have a lot of sympathy for the raccoon, doing what raccoons do. I have no-read zero- sympathies for these POC terrorists. The tea kettle is starting to scream, time to shut off the gas.
On August 21, 2020 at 10:26 pm, HempRopeAndStreetlight said:
I’m no fan of coons – they’re just big, fat, ill-tempered rats – but that video is plain hard to watch. Even garbage-pail tipping vermin deserve better than that.
I’ve killed a lot of critters and more varmints than I can count. I can’t say I ever enjoyed the act. Always a somber thing killing, be it a steer to butcher or a gopher digging up your field. There has to be something wrong with a fellow who can torture a beast slowly to death and giggle while doing it.
These “people” are monstrous.
On August 22, 2020 at 12:18 am, Georgiaboy61 said:
@ Herschel
Re: “On to another issue, is there any doubt they would do this to people?”
It has been known for a long time that cruelty to animals is one of the strongest predictors of eventual violence against humans. Criminologists and similar specialists speak of the “homicidal triangle,” which is often seen in juveniles and other at-risk youth, i.e. bed-wetting, the setting of fires, and cruelty to animals. Also called the “MacDonald Triad” or “Triad of Sociopathy” – the theory was first proposed by J.M. MacDonald in 1963.
Although MacDonald’s theory has, to an extent, been debunked as not entirely predictive, cruelty to animals is still considered a red-flag or warning regarding the disposition towards violence not only against animals, but other humans.
Many serial offenders (murderers, rapists, etc.) work their way up, so to speak, by starting off with animals before moving on to human prey.
Readers interested in learning more are urged to seek out “Mind Hunter” and other titles by retired FBI agent and one of the founders of behavioral profiling, John Douglas. Douglas was the model for Scott Glenn’s character in “Silence of the Lambs,” for those who remember that early 1990s film. Douglas participated in some of the most-famous investigations and man-hunts in history over the course of his career, one in which he saw both the best and the absolute worst of humanity.
Readers with backgrounds in the military, LE and the like (such as any public school teacher) already know that large groups of people – crowds or mobs – often manifest very different and unpredictable behavior patterns than the individuals within them might do in isolation. As the late lamented Ole Remus was fond of saying in his “Woodpile Report,” – “Stay away from crowds….”
On August 22, 2020 at 9:37 am, Longbow said:
This is a form of conditioning, in preparation for doing it to people. Communists never change.
The ONLY way to defeat the communists is to kill them faster than they can reproduce.
On August 22, 2020 at 9:43 am, Longbow said:
After watching the video and reflecting for a moment. Think Rwanda.
On August 22, 2020 at 11:33 am, Fred said:
@GB, I wasn’t going to bring it up but since you mentioned the “MacDonald Triad” of which I had never heard, I wanted to add something. A survey done of violent offenders themselves, post coming clean while still incarcerated, asked a series of questions some of which are random controls; where were you born, how old are you, etc. But, then it goes to the meat of the matter. Included is bed-wetting, hurting animals (for enjoyment or just as a pastime (that pastime thing scares me)), and also getting a head injury before your 3rd birthday are among the questions.
I had never heard the fire starting thing. Don’t know if they asked this as one of the questions or not. My point is, although you say the “theory” is somewhat “debunked” there is something to it.
According to this survey, which I don’t remember who conducted it or how, controls etc. but do remember that sustaining a concussive blow or a blow to the head requiring immediate medical attention (stitches etc.), bed-wetting, and harming small animals are all present in those who are serial violent offenders i.e. rape and murder as you suggest. (While I don’t recall exactly, the survey was along these lines.) But, not all who have killed have all 3 of these particulars but a far disproportionate number, like more than 90 percent, surveyed in prison with these particulars had killed a person.
Easy enough to debunk as well probably. This could be simply correlative, after all they are in prison, but there is something there, statistically, behaviorally or it sure enough seems that way.
On August 22, 2020 at 6:37 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:
@ Fred
Re: “Easy enough to debunk as well probably. This could be simply correlative, after all they are in prison, but there is something there, statistically, behaviorally or it sure enough seems that way.”
I added the part about the theory being considered “debunked” by some – in the interests of intellectual honesty. I believe, as you seem to do, that there is something predictive there. In my earlier post, I made mention of John Douglas, the now-retired FBI agent who helped invent behavioral profiling and the study of victimology as well as the study of the serial predators themselves.
Douglas and his colleagues went into the prisons and systemically interviewed/studied some of the most-notorious serial murders, rapists and other violent offenders ever captured.
Douglas and his colleagues published their findings and had some very pointed criticisms of academic medical and psychiatric professionals, in particular with regards to how well experienced criminals were able to manipulate the authorities into paroling them, releasing them from treatment and/or custody, etc. and convincing them of their “successful” rehabilitation – when they were still as-dangerous as ever.
Without delving too-deeply into his work, suffice it to say that Douglas and his colleagues very much believed that there were markers or warning signs which typically manifested in the lives of eventual serial predators, both before and during their crime sprees.
Douglas and company also make the distinction between low- and high-functioning sociopaths. The former possess insufficient self-control and discipline to control their behavior, and typically run afoul of the law and medical-educational authorities early in their lives. These would be your typical thugs and street criminals.
The higher-functioning ones, however, often appear outwardly normal and are often highly-successful in their chosen careers. That is, when they aren’t preying on others. Many rise to leadership positions in government and industry, or are otherwise successfully professionally. These individuals appear to get a “high” from not just the violent acts themselves, but manipulating others into trusting them, doing as they wish, and so forth. Because of the intelligence of these individuals, they are not only very dangerous, but often very difficult to apprehend.
On August 22, 2020 at 7:23 pm, Fred said:
Change topic, sort of. Read “The Gift of Fear” by De Becker. If you wade through the sales pitch and Hollywood sensationalism you find gems for on-ground behavior analysis. That sense that something isn’t right about somebody is not wrong. Don’t dismiss it. The person has free will and may not act upon intent, means, motive etc. It’s based upon visual cues that we receive but fail to confront and sadly, almost always dismiss. The upshot; your gut, or intuition, whatever you call it, ain’t wrong. You have to teach yourself to articulate what, specifically gives you that hunch. Although not written about places it’s also valuable in choosing locations you frequent and even the way you approach leaving your own house or getting out of your vehicle for instance. It’s a great for self-defense, this gut feeling. Don’t dismiss it when you get it, and learn to use it to effect your survival is the upshot.
Ps. the author makes an anti gun statement to which I sent him a note explaining not only my rights but also that he makes his money from the unarmed, fearful, and ignorant.
On August 23, 2020 at 12:40 am, Hudson H Luce said:
Some guy did this in Kansas about ten years ago, did a video of it, and put it up on the net. He was prosecuted for felony animal cruelty, got sentenced to five years in state prison, and is required to be registered on the sex offender list for the rest of his life. People will have their eyes on him.
On August 23, 2020 at 8:34 pm, Tennessee Budd said:
If ‘only white people worry about animals’, these animals should be grateful. When our patience runs out, only the furry ones will be killed ethically.