Watch List For Militias
BY Herschel Smith
4 years, 3 months ago
I stumbled across this definition (which I’ve never seen because I don’t frequent this web site).
The FBI, on its website, describes this: “Militia extremists … believe that the Constitution grants citizens the power to take back the federal government by force or violence if they feel it’s necessary. They oppose gun control efforts and fear the widespread disarming of Americans by the federal government.”
If you do not believe that the first amendment recognizes the right of amelioration of tyranny by force, you don’t believe that the war of independence was righteous. Many, of course, don’t even today. But that aligns them squarely with tyranny as the founders so aptly stated.
If you oppose gun control efforts, I suppose the FBI has a place for you on their watch list.
If you don’t believe that the pols desire the widespread disarming of Americans, you haven’t been listening. It’s not just the democrats. GWB famously was in favor of a new AWB after the first one went sunset, but couldn’t get the senate to go along.
On September 12, 2020 at 10:08 pm, Frank Clarke said:
Yes, the GOP talks the talk, but they don’t walk the walk. That applies equally to the judges everyone is so worried about.
On September 13, 2020 at 12:11 am, George 1 said:
Yep. The FBI is certainly on the side of the communists. Well if we all aren’t on some kind of government watch list by now we should all be ashamed of ourselves.
On September 13, 2020 at 12:22 am, Ratus said:
Have they never heard or read the following
“…That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it…”
On September 13, 2020 at 1:20 am, DJMoore said:
@Ratus: Quite so. Further, that is bulwarked by “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government,”
Neither the Declaration nor the Constitution grant the people powers or rights; those are assumed. It only delegates powers to the government, from the people, and further limits those powers.
On September 13, 2020 at 2:57 am, Duke Norfolk said:
Well, look around you folks. The posterity that our Constitution was intended for is dwindling fast. When we turned into an empire in, oh around 1865 or so, the decline started in earnest. The gates were opened. then a hundred years later it really got rolling, of course. It’s pretty much been inevitable ever since.
Heck, one can argue that it was inevitable from the start (too much open land, resources, etc. the was just begging to be fought over by the world, in one way or another). Books could be written, of course, although most of the books out there are just meant to obfuscate all this and abet the process.
On September 13, 2020 at 4:09 am, TW said:
Has anyone found this definition on the FBI website? Just trying to vet “The Telegraph”.
On September 13, 2020 at 4:13 am, TW said:
Found it buried here:
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/domestic-terrorism-focus-on-militia-extremism
Part of a larger definition.
On September 13, 2020 at 7:12 am, Sheepdog said:
Don’t forget the President saying…
“First we’ll take the guns then we’ll have due process”
DC doesn’t give a rats rear end about the Constitution or Bill of Rights, either “party”. Those who covet Liberty are the enemies of those who lust for power.
Prepare for combat and death or hop in the boxcar, the Lord has given you a choice…
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!
On September 13, 2020 at 9:04 am, Ned2 said:
“…the Constitution grants citizens the power to take back the federal government by force or violence if they feel it’s necessary.”
Of course it does. And the FBI knows this. (BTW, feebies, you might not want to see us doing that. An awful lot of us will skip the court hearings and go directly to lamp posts)
On September 13, 2020 at 10:16 am, Bill Buppert said:
I wrote about the GOP war on private weapons years ago: https://zerogov.com/2015/06/01/the-gop-war-on-private-weapons-in-america-by-bill-buppert/
On September 13, 2020 at 11:14 am, Randolph Scott said:
What goes around comes around. Abolish the fbi. Ban any and all employees of that lying, thieving, traitorous organization from working for the gov, any congressman or senator.
On September 13, 2020 at 1:19 pm, Bad_Brad said:
How do you get recognized as a “Militia” by the FBI? Webb Page, Facebook, YouTube? If you’re a Militia and participate in any social media you’re just asking for trouble.
On September 13, 2020 at 1:48 pm, Mark Matis said:
There have not been any “good employees” in either the FBI or the DoJ since AT LEAST Whitey Bulger. Execute every one of them for their treason. Then put their heads on pikes around the Beltway. Pour encourager les autres!!!!!!!!
On September 13, 2020 at 2:23 pm, Fred said:
@Ned2, I’m really surprised to remind people here that the Constitution doesn’t grant anything whatsoever at all.
Generally to all, the wording of that statement by FBI is very important. It sets a baseline, designed to confuse. It sets up the Constitution, a straw man, as the position from which the argument must proceed. This is critical for Christians. Never argue anything from any position except that of fundamental and foundational Christian understanding or you surrender the moral and ethical and only inerrant truth of right and wrong. This is why you MUST read the Holy Bible every day for the rest of your life. You must read it cover to cover, study it, hide His word in your heart.
The constitution is a piece of paper sitting ignored under glass in some rotund or something. It’s null and void. A contract or covenant that nobody has read, nobody knows what it says, and nobody cares is no contract at all.
I don’t need your government. I have the government of Holy God, through the Spirit of God in me removing any desire to harm my fellow man at all in any way. Jesus Christ is the biggest threat in the history of all the world because through Him we don’t need governments of men.
“Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,” 1 Timothy 1:9- the list goes on.
The government can’t fix america. It can’t, it’s incapable. No government of men by any form or function whatsoever can cause men to live as righteous before the throne of Holy God one toward another in peace and mutual support and cooperation. Ok! No government can save us, ever!
I don’t need your government and nor do I want it! The sooner the government of the United States implodes under the weight of its own retardation the better a place the world will be.
Also, don’t forget this list:
72 Types Of Americans That Are Considered “Potential Terrorists” In Official Government Documents
http://thetruthwins.com/archives/72-types-of-americans-that-are-considered-potential-terrorists-in-official-government-documents
On September 13, 2020 at 5:01 pm, Ned2 said:
@Fred
Great list and good source material. Thanks for that.
On September 13, 2020 at 5:19 pm, Dan Stubbs Sr said:
The Sheriffs Dept I worked for is a Dept that works for the State and People (FLA) The FBI is a National Police and they work for the Government the Government is the People. FBI is a snot nose elites who have shown to be Criminals, and some of the courts are also. The want violence just keep it up. This is not a threat it has been facts in History.
On September 14, 2020 at 9:53 pm, Levi Garrett said:
@Fred,
BINGO!