Cops: “Oh No, The Men Want To Form A Militia!”
BY Herschel Smith
4 years, 3 months ago
A meeting of “like-minded and able-bodied” lovers of “freedom” and “the 2nd Amendment” from Mountain Top has been canceled after police raised concerns about what sounded like the formation of a militia.
Police spoke to the organizer of the event Tuesday morning about their concerns based on a newspaper notice announcing the event and the man agreed to cancel the Sept. 29 meeting, Wright Twp. Police Chief Royce Engler said.
“He was originally going to start a crime watch program. But the way that was worded, it didn’t sound like it was going to be a crime watch to us,” Engler said. “So we put a stop to that.”
The notice was published in the free Mountain Peaks Newspaper’s Sept. 17-30 edition.
Addressed to “all Mountain Top residents ages 21 to 65,” the notice urged interested parties to sign up at the banquet room at King’s Ristorante and Pizzeria at 49 S. Mountain Blvd. the night of Sept. 29.
“Are you concerned about violence in the streets, mob rule, public safety, family safety, destruction of property and these things coming to our community?” the notice says. “Do you love America, God, and the 2nd Amendment? Support our police and want a safe community for your children and family to live in? Do you love American freedom as we have known it? If you are like-minded and able bodied, please join this cause in a proactive approach forming a Mountain Top Watch community to prepare for the unthinkable, which has already become a reality in many cities.”
Fairview Twp. police Chief Phil Holbrook said he had concerns about the wording of the notice and that he felt it sent the wrong message.
“He originally approached us about starting a crime watch, and we were all for that. A crime watch is a good thing, a good idea. The way he worded things, it obviously got a lot of people concerned and upset,” Holbrook said. “I think he just worded it wrong. From everything he said, I don’t think he was looking to start anything like a militia, or do anything like that. I think he just maybe worded it a little aggressively.”
The announcement of a Mountain Top Watch organization comes as a group of local youths has been working to hold a Black Lives Matter rally on the mountain.
Engler said he suspects the group’s formation was motivated by the rally, which has been in the planning stages for weeks.
Rally organizer Thomas Beurmann, 18, of Rice Twp., said he took the notice as a call to arms and a threat against his group’s efforts.
“It definitely seemed scary,” he said. “People (on Facebook) are saying that if something happens they’re going to go out with their guns and protect businesses and stuff, so just to see that it’s being organized was definitely a little scary.”
There are a number of significant failings here. First of all, under 10 US Code 246, the militia exists, has a right to such, is legal, and the police chief had absolutely no right to interfere.
Second, the organizer had no right to back down because of this interference. Third, the organizer should never have gone to the police to begin with. It’s none of their business.
Fourth, I want to know what it means to have “put a stop” to the meetup. What did the police chief do? Is there a potential lawsuit here?
Fifth, given prog police chiefs like this, probably with “we’re special because we’re the police” officers working for him, any militia in this area should work more discretely and clandestinely.
Finally, give how spooked the people in this area are from mild-mannered wording like this man used, they’re light years from being prepared for what’s coming their direction.
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On September 22, 2020 at 10:04 pm, Brad said:
The coppers on Mountain Top should que up Siri on their I Phones and ask “Where’s the nearest Terrorist”. Try it. Maybe they’ll change their worthless minds.
On September 23, 2020 at 3:45 am, WiscoDave said:
But what if they were “of a different hue”?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8759873/Minneapolis-welcomes-armed-group-black-men-patrolling-streets-death-George-Floyd.html
On September 23, 2020 at 4:53 am, Jimmy the Saint said:
“First of all, under 10 US Code 246, the militia exists, has a right to such, is legal, and the police chief had absolutely no right to interfere.”
Pfft! A mere scrap of paper!
– The US Supreme Court
– The Federal Courts
The 2nd Amendment prohibits infringement of the right to keep and bear arms *in theory*, but in practice, it’s observed primarily in the breach.
On September 23, 2020 at 7:17 am, Wes said:
“People (on Facebook) are saying that if something happens they’re going to go out with their guns and protect businesses and stuff, so just to see that it’s being organized was definitely a little scary.”
That the useful-idiot youngster thinks protecting businesses “and stuff” is scary says that such protection is needed.
His FB page says of his time at Crestwood High School “Left in 2020” so unknown if he actually graduated. Previously of Dominion HS in Sterling, VA.
There are ways to go about that organizing without involving the local PD and popping off star-clusters all over the place.
On September 23, 2020 at 9:22 am, Warbucks said:
9/23/2020 HOW TO STAGE A COUP
Retired Military Sitting On Big Weapon Manufacturer’s Boards of Directors
https://youtu.be/5-zX2sDUX-4
The real warmongers that need to be put into the sunshine.
Col Black reviews the Coup Strategy: The latest strategy for an illegal coup against Trump:
(1) PEOPLE INVOLVED IN SPEAKING OUT IN VIOLATION OF ARTICLE 87 OF UCMJ, Gen Collin Powell, Gen John Allen, Admiral Mike Mullen, Gen Jim Madis, Gen H.R. McMaster in a list of some 300 elites that serve to keep US in endless wars, many of whom, sit on boards of weapons manufacturers. Other Political Persons: Clinton, Podesta, Leon Panetta, Chuck Hagel (I did not hear mention of former President Obama)
(2) PLAN A: Corrupt a cast of delegates to the Electoral College.
PLAN B: Stage Another False Flag to cut communications. East Coast cut from West Coast.
(3) FOLLOW UP QUICKLY WITH ILLEGAL ORDERS, using the corrupt mainstream media for cover. Quickly attack patriot groups before they can organize. Send US Troops into NY and LA, (two key inception points)
ANALYSIS: The problem with the coup strategy.
(A) Discussing it in advance weakens it’s surprise and allows individuals to form resolve to resist ahead of time.
(B) Patriots tend to default to support The US Constitutional Republic and the rank and file below the rank of General or Admiral in the main, love this President.
(C) Patriots will likely go directly after the 300 not against any US Citizens or the rank and file.
On September 23, 2020 at 10:12 am, Fred said:
Why should a militia, even openly named and operating as such, have to withdraw into the shadows as though it were shameful, a sin against God? These are lies of the devil to deceive. The light and truth must not operate in darkness or the people of truth surrender the duty in the Law of Holy God to evil men to operate as a fraud of God pretending that darkness is light.
As to the notice; I would not have answered. Police in America operate as an illegal control mechanism against the freedom of men. And no, I don’t love America, it’s a third world dumpster fire. So, no and no. Never ask permission to be free. The answer is always no. The asking is a waste of time we don’t have, although you do find out who more of your enemies are, so there’s that.
On September 23, 2020 at 3:09 pm, Hudson H Luce said:
Police exist to protect and serve the *government*. So far as individuals and groups of individuals, if police activities tend to reduce the amount of crime, then that’s an incidental benefit. As for forming public militias, I’d avoid it. The participants in the Boston Tea Party were organized in small bands of two or three people, and they didn’t know each other’s identities (https://historyofmassachusetts.org/participants-of-the-boston-tea-party/). Same case for any other resistance movement, which is in effect what this is. In fact, the idea of leaderless resistance might be more apposite here, rather than open public groupings.
On September 23, 2020 at 3:16 pm, Hudson H Luce said:
Leaderless Resistance source:”Two things become clear from the above discussion. First, that the pyramid type of organization can be penetrated quite easily and it thus is not a sound method of organization in situations where the government has the resources and desire to penetrate the structure; which is the situation in this country. Secondly, that the normal qualifications for the cell structure based upon the Red model does not exist in the U.S. for patriots. This understood, the question arises “What method is left for those resisting state tyranny?” The answer comes from Col. Amoss who proposed the “Phantom Cell” mode of organization. Which he described as Leaderless Resistance. A system of organization that is based upon the cell organization, but does not have any central control or direction, that is in fact almost identical to the methods used by the Committees of Correspondence during the American Revolution. Utilizing the Leaderless Resistance concept, all individuals and groups operate independently of each other, and never report to a central headquarters or single leader for direction or instruction, as would those who belong to a typical pyramid organization.
At first glance, such a type of organization seems unrealistic, primarily because there appears to be no organization. The natural question thus arises as to how are the “Phantom cells” and individuals to cooperate with each other when there is no intercommunication or central direction? The answer to this question is that participants in a program of Leaderless Resistance through phantom cell or individual action must know exactly what they are doing, and how to do it. It becomes the responsibility of the individual to acquire the necessary skills and information as to what is to be done. This is by no means as impractical as it appears, because it is certainly true that in any movement, all persons involved have the same general outlook, are acquainted with the same philosophy, and generally react to given situations in similar ways. The pervious history of the committees of correspondence during the American Revolution show this to be true.
Since the entire purpose of Leaderless Resistance is to defeat state tyranny (at least insofar as this essay is concerned), all members of phantom cells or individuals will tend to react to objective events in the same way through usual tactics of resistance. Organs of information distribution such as newspapers, leaflets, computers, etc., which are widely available to all, keep each person informed of events, allowing for a planned response that will take many variations. No one need issue an order to anyone. Those idealist truly committed to the cause of freedom will act when they feel the time is ripe, or will take their cue from others who precede them. While it is true that much could be said against this type of structure as a method of resistance, it must be kept in mind that Leaderless Resistance is a child of necessity. The alternatives to it have been show to be unworkable or impractical. Leaderless Resistance has worked before in the American Revolution, and if the truly committed put it to use for themselves, it will work now.
It goes almost without saying that Leaderless Resistance leads to very small or even one man cells of resistance. Those who join organizations to play “let’s pretend” or who are “groupies” will quickly be weeded out. While for those who are serious about their opposition to federal despotism, this is exactly what is desired.” http://www.louisbeam.com/leaderless.htm
On September 23, 2020 at 8:23 pm, Fred said:
Mr. Luce, I have yet to hear any three people anywhere that agree on a single goal or desire of outcome for the coming war.
On September 24, 2020 at 3:38 am, Hudson H Luce said:
I kind of doubt that the people who aren’t on the Left will be doing offensive warfare, so the common goal would be security and safety for themselves, their families, and their neighbors, from outside threats. That seems to be the common concern, and very few governments are providing safety and security. Most people on this side of the fence want to be left alone, to live their lives.
The United States have ceased their union, between the states, and between parts of the states – the rural parts and the urban parts have deep and absolutely irreconcilable differences. They have little or nothing in common, culturally, and this cuts across racial and ethnic groups. If we’d stuck with the original Constitution, the Articles of Confederation, instead of imposing a consolidated and centralized government created by the Wall Street crowd in their Constitution of 1787, we wouldn’t have this mess to deal with.