Suspension Of AR-15 Pistol Brace Ban
BY Herschel Smith
4 years, 2 months ago
We covered the idea that the recent ATF movements to regulate AR pistol braces as NFA items would have some blowback of Trump support. There has been further development.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives has temporarily backed off criminalizing a type of gun used by 3-4 million people in the United States until after the presidential election, likely stoking the issue of gun control.
The New Hampshire maker of a popular styled AR-15 “pistol” today said that the ATF suspended its surprise decision made last week to outlaw the gun, called the “Honey Badger” pistol.
Q, LLC told customers, “Our attorneys received a letter from ATF Chief Counsel Joel Roessner ‘temporarily suspending the Cease and Desist letter’ associated with the Honey Badger Pistol by Q. The letter states that the suspension, will remain in effect for a period of sixty (60) days … unless withdrawn or extended by ATF.’ The stated purpose of the suspension is to allow the Department of Justice an opportunity, ‘to further review the applicability of the National Firearms Act to the manufacture and transfer of the model Honey Badger Pistol firearm.’”
It said the move will delay, though not reverse, the earlier cease and desist until after the election, a tactic the company decried.
“We believe this 60-day suspension is an effort to put manufacturers, distributors, and consumers at ease, and to postpone the issue past the presidential election in hopes that a new administration will take a different view,” said the company, adding, “using licensees as political pawns is unbecoming of a regulatory agency and ignoring the underlying evaluation in this letter is simply irresponsible. Q will not succumb to this level or irresponsibility. Therefore, without further clarification from ATF on their evaluation, we will not continue manufacturing the Honey Badger Pistol.”
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Trump officials had been concerned that it would look like the president’s team was targeting the weapon in a move that could turn the 3-4 million owners into felons unless they dismantled or changed their weapons.
However, it is expected that if Joe Biden wins election, the ATF will move forward, likely targeting all of the makers of AR pistols, and even ban the AR-15, dubbed by liberals as an assault weapon.
Well this is fascinating. The article clearly says that “Trump officials had been concerned …”
So apparently they took notice, and noted that this would involve millions of gun owners should this interpretation become finalized.
The article also hints at the fact that the ATF believes that pistol braces violate the NFA, and want to push this in a potential upcoming administration.
They’re banking on a specific election outcome, and clearly signaling their intentions.
Trump officials should have divorced themselves from Wayne LaPierre and taken notice much earlier concerning their bump stock ban. That involves half a million bump stock owners who became felons overnight.
They’re slow to react and have poor character judgment, not to mention poor proclivities regarding the 2A.
But of course, a Biden administration would be worse, and the ATF knows it. They have the cover they need should the election outcome go their way.
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On October 15, 2020 at 10:49 am, Longbow said:
Do you think that the “vast majority” of ATF agents who are super duper good guys and believe in their oath of office and support the Second Amendment…
just don’t know that the agency they work for has an anti-rights, and anti-Constitutional agenda?
Being good guys who mean well, maybe they just don’t know. Ya reckon?
On October 15, 2020 at 11:46 am, Fred said:
What’s been done here is to remove any doubt that the office of the President now sees gun control by executive action as legitimate. You are being set up, and not just by Democrats, you are being manipulated into surrendering your rights to the Executive.
You are warned: They are coming for your guns by executive fiat, regardless of party affiliation or election outcomes.
I do not recognize any executive in any capacity whatsoever as having authority over my duty to arms before Holy God. All such actions are a direct act of war, by the Government of United States’ own definitions of an act of war.
I will never vote Republican again, ever.
Trump is a wicked and perverse spiritual cripple.
On October 15, 2020 at 12:57 pm, Brad said:
Fred
There’s this thing called the supreme court. Have you been paying attention? Not just the supreme court, Trumps got the 9th almost leaning conservative. This is how we protect our constitutional rights and if you think the Democrats have any interest in doing so I have a couple dozen bridges to sell you. And Fred, there’s only two parties to choose between. Now fess up, you’re actually the campaign manager for Biden/Harris aren’t you>
On October 15, 2020 at 1:25 pm, Sarasp said:
Fred, I understand your anger, but frankly, if Trump doesn’t win there won’t be any free elections ever again. The left is firmly in control of most of the bureaucracy after 100 years of subversion and they are openly telling you they intend to murder at least 30 million and probably more. They will take away all your guns and will murder anyone who tries to stop them. What will you do if you if the left orders the military to attack us? Remember, under Obama, the blue helmets practiced waging wars in our country. I don’t think that was a mistake. The next step, if they gain the presidency is mass starvation as they’ve done everywhere they’ve come to power since the French Revolution. Did you ever wonder why Antifa has moved their fire attacks out of the cities? How many farms/ranches have already lost their ability to produce food this year. We’re in a 4G war, alright, but the tactics they’re using haven’t changed because they work. If you want to fight the atf, I’d advice voting for Trump because he, at least, wants our country and people to survive — the Dems and govt don’t. I pray daily that the left doesn’t succeed in this coup because I never want to see Year Zero here. We may be forced into this war, but I’m going to do my best to try to head that off by voting for the man who at least recognizes that the corruption can’t go on and is trying to build up our country. He may not succeed and he’s made lots of mistakes, but I don’t see anyone else willing to fight this fight.
You don’t know me, but I hope you’ll think about what I said. God doesn’t send perfect men in the Bible, but the perfect men for the job. David, Joshua, etc. weren’t perfect, but they acted for God. Our Redeemer will come, but I don’t expect him to be our president. I believe God has favored us with another chance to become the nation we once tried to be— it’s up to us to try to do so even if the job looks like a Herculean task.
On October 15, 2020 at 2:02 pm, Kick Ass said:
Fred, you have TDS – seek psychiatric help.
On October 15, 2020 at 3:00 pm, Fred said:
Do you mean the SCOTUS that will have 3 dems, and Roberts, and 2 Trump appointees that will rubber stamp Red Flag laws as Regime approved, and rubber stamp Bump Stock bans as regime approved, and will now rubber stamp the banning of other gun parts? That SCOTUS? The majority Republican SCOTUS that rubber stamped Abortion, and made blacks less than human, and approved reconstruction and Jim Crow and war without declaration, and gave immunity to police to conduct war against you? That SCOTUS? BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA
On October 15, 2020 at 3:18 pm, Brad said:
Fred
Dude, for your own good, turn of CNN and step away from the TV.
On October 15, 2020 at 5:30 pm, Jimmy the Saint said:
@Longbow: “Do you think that the “vast majority” of ATF agents who are super duper good guys and believe in their oath of office and support the Second Amendment…
just don’t know that the agency they work for has an anti-rights, and anti-Constitutional agenda?
Being good guys who mean well, maybe they just don’t know. Ya reckon?”
No, no, no. They’re all busy “trying to change it from the inside”
On October 15, 2020 at 5:43 pm, Frank Clarke said:
Anyone who thinks the Republicans are going to ride in on their white horses and rescue us from the dastardly Democrats…
…is either ON drugs or needs to be.
On October 15, 2020 at 7:30 pm, Sheepdog said:
“First we’ll take the guns then we’ll have due process”
President Trump, staunch defender of the Second Amendment sitting with Senator Finestein who was all smiles of course as any good bolshevik would be hearing that.
I listen to what they say and take it seriously.
Big Mike’s husband never would’ve gotten away with this trial run, the bumpstock ban or these Red Flag laws popping up all over the “Republic” just to name a few.
I’m leaning with Fred on this one, and please save your CNN and TDS comments for someone else…
On October 15, 2020 at 8:49 pm, Brad said:
Sheepdog
RedFag laws are being instituted at the State level not the Federal level. Biggest proponent, former Navy Seal Dan Crenshaw. Go figure. It still comes down to the judiciary. Our best chance of preserving the Republic. Especially with judiciaries like Barret. And big Mike Husband got away with everything. Even killing Navy Seals.
Now lets talk about the first amendment and the economy.
On October 15, 2020 at 9:38 pm, Sheepdog said:
@Brad
President Trump making that statement was a go ahead to implement Red Flag laws, an executive permission to do so, period.
You mean the SCOTUS run by the Dubya cuckservative that gave me Ocommie Care with his vote? How many other votes did this schmuck side with the court bolsheviks? Gorsuch and Kavanaugh remind me of Roberts in many ways.
You mean a hollow service economy ground to a halt by the scamdemic? I’m in the car business and it will likely never truly recover, nobody can afford vehicles with .gov mandates. The middle class that built America is dwindling fast and in its place a feudal mass of people relying upon handouts from .gov who will always vote themselves a raise from the treasury every damn time.
A First Amendment held hostage by cries of racism and bigotry, where the press is a rabid supporter of the bolsheviks, looters and race hustlers, while a real journalist rots in an English prison awaiting extradition to the DOJ if he even survives. Where persons of faith are arrested for gathering in fellowship on scamdemic lies.
Judge Barrett will not stem the tide of demographics that will ensure a socialist amurikah, no amount of rulings can change the math in favor of the TRADs as their children have been mentally poisoned by bolshevik .edu indoctrination.
This will not end well, the writing is on the wall and nothing will change it. I am in favor of getting right with the Lord and will endeavor to remain true to the Spirit of the American Revolution until I am extinguished by those bent on my destruction.
On October 15, 2020 at 9:57 pm, Brad said:
“President Trump making that statement was a go ahead to implement Red Flag laws, an executive permission to do so, period.”
Hows that worked out. No new legislation since that statement.
“You mean the SCOTUS run by the Dubya cuckservative that gave me Ocommie Care with his vote? How many other votes did this schmuck side with the court bolsheviks? Gorsuch and Kavanaugh remind me of Roberts in many ways.”
Pretty weak opinion. How id Trump responsible for a W appointment? Gorsuch and Kavanaugh do not remind me of the weak as Roberts in anyway.
“You mean a hollow service economy ground to a halt by the scamdemic?”
I’ll stop copying that ridiculous bull shit there. I’m in manufacturing in a big way. Do you know what economic multipliers are? If you want to sell more used cars you better hope to hell the manufacturing side picks up. Because in reality, that’s what drives the economy. And the Globalist and the Libtards did their damnedest to kill it. Turns out Trumps gotta a pretty damn good MAGIC WAND. His plan of “uncoupling” from China is paramount in our recovery.
” Where persons of faith are arrested for gathering in fellowship on scamdemic lies” Seems to me Trumps been fighting this tooth and nail.
“Judge Barrett will not stem the tide of demographics”. so there’s to many black people now?
You’re all over the map. I don’t think you have a clear understanding of the political battle at hand. You lean Liberal. Good luck to you sir.
On October 16, 2020 at 12:27 am, Sheepdog said:
Red Flag is real and affecting peoples lives right now with legislation already passed. Besides, the Wars on Drugs and Terror were already doing the same thing anyway. And why is Kyle Rittenhouse in jail and the pistol wielding felony bolshevik he stopped from killing him by meat misting his arm running around making statements? The president did say he thought it was self defense but has said nothing else. Kyle appeared to have a black eye in the last picture I saw of him, a political prisoner period. St Louis Soros DA / grand jury brought additional charges against the McCloskeys, not a peep from the president. These people even stumped for him. Yea I know the wheels of justice turn ever so slowly. TRADs defending themselves during this bolshevik uprising have seen unequal justice applied all over this country during President Trump administration. Yea, yea it’s a state thing…
Where did I say President Trump is responsible for Roberts? We can agree to disagree on the the other Justices but I stand on my opinion of these two milquetoast jurists. You can have faith in the judiciary, I have none as we are now a nation of men, not of law.
Been in the auto sector for 27 years, auto plants are running at low capacity and suppliers match that with many running only one shift. Economic multipliers sounds like a catch phrase to me, tell that to the people laid off. Equipment orders in my sector are way down, worse than 2009 in many respects. Used cars make jobs for car salesman not manufacturing jobs. Magic wand and the uncoupling from China, we’ll see about that soon enough.
Fighting tooth and nail for people of faith huh? Ask the dude arrested in Idaho, a red state right? Ask the Christians in California, ask the Jews in New York
Black and white populations are in fact declining. Is demographics a trigger word for you? “so there’s to(o) many black people now?” Where the hell did you infer that from? One justice will not fix the ills of this country, even one of Barretts’ caliber. Uniparty immigration policy and loose borders have diluted America by design for decades and that’s a reality. Trump was too little, too late. Suppose that is raciss too…
I see this battle very clearly, this election is of little consequence as the die is cast. Keep drinking the Q aid and stay the course man. The fact is America as founded is dead and gone, President Trump is the red meat keeping you engaged and thinking there is hope.
You can have your opinions just like you have that anus where describing me as a liberal squeezed out from…
On October 16, 2020 at 1:47 am, Brad said:
Do you think Trump has the authority to march into California or Idaho and rectify this shit? You my friend are after a King or Emperor. You have no understanding of the roles and limitations the founders set on our Republic. You assume a lot. You make statements based on emotion with no consideration of data or facts. Just like Liberals do. I can’t afford that in my business. Again, we agree to disagree. I’m out
On October 16, 2020 at 7:57 am, Fred said:
The Veterans 2A Protection Act, pushed and signed by Trump is Federal Red Flag laws for veterans. Don’t ever go the VA, they’ll get a judge to take your guns.
On October 16, 2020 at 8:07 am, MN Steel said:
Rs vote dozens of times to repeal ACA while in minority, vote R and we’ll repeal!
ACA goes to SCOTUS, upheld by R chief, Rs say need more R justices, vote R prez and house and senate!
Rs say need all Rs and we’ll make safe for guns (HPA) and build a wall and stop immigration, unfettered internet, nuclear families, vote R and we’ll turn back tide!
Rs get majority in both houses and prez, no vote on ACA, wall, immigration, HPA, prez bans bump-stocks and pushes gay agenda.
Seems R’s only exist to be speedbump to Ds and can only give good rhetoric when in minority, without any concrete results or reversal of previous infringements.
Good for fundraising and false hope.
“But DJT was duped on all his picks!”
Just like everyone that voted for and against him.
On October 16, 2020 at 12:18 pm, Brad said:
Fred
DO YOUR RESEARCH. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/house-approves-veterans-2a-protection-act/
On October 16, 2020 at 12:29 pm, Fred said:
That’s not the final bill, that’s just some news rag.
On October 16, 2020 at 4:00 pm, Bear Claw Chris Lapp said:
Harry Reid gave us ocommie care in a backhand/underhanded budget reconciliation move. Congress got let off the hook. John McStain walked in the senate floor with his arrogant thumbs down snub vote on repeal of us peoples also. May he be rotting in hell. Yes he served but only the war mongering military industrial complex. Smedley Butler was correct so was Ike.