My Client Gets Shot By Police Through His Closed Front Door!
BY Herschel Smith4 years ago
This has happened before in Greenville, S.C. Now it has happened in West Virginia.
This officer is a sociopath. He should be in prison.
This has happened before in Greenville, S.C. Now it has happened in West Virginia.
This officer is a sociopath. He should be in prison.
On October 29, 2020 at 5:41 am, robert orians said:
Military tactics down in West-By-Gawd ! Shootem right through the door and then sic the dawg on ’em huh?
On October 29, 2020 at 6:01 am, Jimmy the Saint said:
He should be in prison. He will be promoted – if not in that police department, in some other one.
On October 29, 2020 at 6:52 am, Mark Matis said:
This can work BOTH ways…
On October 29, 2020 at 7:16 am, Fred said:
The reason they settle is because they don’t want Qualified Immunity to be litigated. So, having settled, and retaining Qualified Immunity, they can shoot you in the back of the head if you won’t get on the railcar. It’s a police state. Just admit it.
On October 29, 2020 at 7:22 am, Doug Worley said:
The dang investigator is COACHING the freaking object of the investigation? And they wonder why no one trusts, respects, or like the cops anymore. Police are nothing more than a state sponsored gang at this point.
On October 29, 2020 at 8:16 am, Randolph Scott said:
Where are the fu(king riots, WLM people etc.
On October 29, 2020 at 8:17 am, X said:
The swine was probably crying during the deposition because he was afraid he was going to lose his gold-brick government pension and early retirement to Florida over the shooting…
On October 29, 2020 at 8:36 am, George 1 said:
This guy is literally Tackleberry from the Police Academy movies.
On October 29, 2020 at 8:58 am, John said:
What’s next? A Quad .50 caliber leveling “suspicious” houses from a half mile?
On October 29, 2020 at 10:13 am, ambiguousfrog said:
He should’ve drove the car through the guys front door while yelling stop resisting. Then say I feared for my life.
On October 29, 2020 at 11:17 am, Fred said:
That’s funny
On October 29, 2020 at 11:59 am, Aesop said:
1) Police pounding on or yelling at your door from outside do not necessitate any response whatsoever from you from inside.
2) If you have any glass in or around your front door, still, you’re already way behind the power curve of things, especially regarding common sense home security.
3) If 20+ years of official thuggery and the gutting of the 4th and 5th Amendments haven’t driven the point firmly home, AR500 plate installed on you entry doors is not too extreme, and building as many layers of prevention between the street and those entries is simply prudence. Anything that takes them (and any other home invaders) 30 minutes or more to get through with anything less than an APC or explosives seems like a reasonable staring point.
Hurricane film on windows, for one example, makes breaking though them a process measured in tens of minutes.
4) The police (nor anyone else) shouldn’t be able to see into your house from outside. Period.
5) The officer involved is clearly a hyperventilating @$$wipe, but if you’re going to play hide and seek against badged morons pointing guns at you with only a see-through door for protection, standing behind 1″-2″ of softwood secured with a flimsy lock is stupidity on a magnitude that cannot be measured with existing instrumentation.
6) If they can’t see you, you don’t answer, and they cannot gain entry readily, the likely response will be to call in “no suspect found at the location”, and they will then move along to bigger fish fries.
But once they have eyes on you, like a cat waiting at the end of a gopher hole, they will wait and work the problem until Hell freezes over.
Mainly, this video and incident highlights the continued flimsiness of American homebuilding (compare and contrast with European or Turd World norms), and the foolishness of trusting government minions to use common sense, or stay inside any sort of lines.
Takeaways:Make it harder (i.e. nigh on impossible) for them gain entry, and thus to do anything but play fair, and don’t be stupid.
And not just for people who just got in a domestic argument, but everyone. The number of wrong-house no-knock warrant entries and shot/killed innocent bystanders – every month, for decades – is legendary.
Shakespeare’s Dogberry wasn’t a stereotype, he was spot-on.
Not much has changed in 500 years.
On October 29, 2020 at 8:07 pm, Danny said:
But @Aesop you waxed apoplectic on Wuflu advocating lockdown. Crawl back into your hole and let the folks who are really willing to put their life and livelihoods on the line make the adult decisions. Piss off bootlicker.
On October 30, 2020 at 2:31 am, Aesop said:
Danonymous,
Stop cowardly crapping in other people’s blogs while hiding.
In the OP, the only person putting his life on the line was the occupant of the house; the cop in question was a flaming @$$tard.
Color me shocked.
So who’s the real bootlicker in this comment section?
On October 30, 2020 at 2:05 pm, bor said:
Aesop is a douche
On October 31, 2020 at 2:29 pm, Ben said:
This probably happened because the officer was scared. While I can sympathize with his fear, why didn’t he wait for backup if he thought he was in danger. He apparently knew there was nobody in danger inside, so why rush in alone? Since nobody was in danger inside, why use the weapon before talking to the resident? I think this is a training issue and an officer mentality issue more than anything else. Questions should be asked about training in that department, as well as whether the officer has the proper psychological make-up for his job.
On a related note, I think we should start asking why former military people are generally given a better chance to get police jobs. Some of the training does carry over to police work, but the ideal mentality of a police officer is different from the ideal mentality for a soldier. One of the reasons police departments are overly militarized has to be related to the fact that most police are former military. Those are very different jobs, and a good soldier is not automatically a good police officer. (As an aside, I participated in hiring police officers as a local government official, and it was practically impossible for someone without military service to finish high enough on the civil service test if former military were in the applicant pool. We were often unable to hire people who we knew were better candidates, including candidates who were already part time officers, because other candidates came in with veterans preference and finished at the top of the civil service list.)
On October 31, 2020 at 9:47 pm, Herschel Smith said:
Ben,
Great point. My son (former Marine) has made the same observations about the unsuitableness of former military for police life and the difference in perspectives needed.
He remains firmly opposed to hiring former military as cops. Maybe this is worth a separate post.
On November 1, 2020 at 3:12 pm, Fred said:
And, Herschel and Ben, we’ve discussed here at length how the converse is also true. Turning soldiers and marines into “mad dog killers” and then giving them policing duties with policing ROE is not war. You can’t give a soldier an inch thick rule book of field morality riddles and tell him to go make Jeffersonian democrats out of foreign peoples, and win a war. In fact, the very notion is absurd.
On November 1, 2020 at 5:00 pm, Artorius Brutus Maximus said:
My observation has been that the vast majority of enforcers have never taken the oath, never put on a real uniform and never served a day in this nation’s defense.
The thing that makes them dangerous is that they want to “play Soldier” while not having the nads to actually do it.
On November 3, 2020 at 9:18 pm, Danny said:
@Aesop, at least I use my first name and have outed myself geographically to other bloviaters here, at WRSA and AP. So here it is, my name is Danny Nelms, I live in South Carolina, I am from Tidewater, VA if you can find it on map. With those cookie crumbs even you can find where I live. That said, you couldn’t find your ass from your hat when it came to WuFlu. I read ALL your posts about same because in late March was a true bio weapon believer. Since then I have put in about 400 hours of research and am ashamed I allowed myself to be initially so led astray. I am a simple Mechanical Engineer with two patents and 30 years experience in my field who can read. You on the other hand as you tell us ad nauseum are in the medical field and should now better. My wife is in the medical field, no she doesnt empty bed pans, on the cutting edge of cardiovascular procedures and she saw the canard by early April when you were still spouting the Fauci line. So, back to my original point, if you were SO wrong in the field of which you pound your chest so loudly but we hear nothing but a hollow sound, why the hell should we ever listen to you again- about any effing topic? Wanna chat mano a mano, Taquiero Mexico, South Blvd Charlotte, NC you pick the date and time. Its a real place.