UPDATE: DOJ and ATF stance on braced pistols
BY Herschel Smith3 years, 11 months ago
For the record, I don’t think the DOJ/ATF was trying to clarify anything. I think they intended to muddy the waters and use fear as a tactic. Also for the record, I don’t think fear is going to work as a tactic.
On December 18, 2020 at 8:42 am, Wes said:
Carrot = “free” SBR. “Whee! Glitter & candy & rainbow unicorn farts.”
Stick = registration.
And we know that there is only one reason a government wants registration & that is to know where they are so they can come get them. And the only reason to come get them is so they can do something to you that you’d normally shoot them for.
On December 18, 2020 at 10:57 am, Houston said:
Don’t want to give the ATFE goons any ideas but one day they will just arrest anyone who has an upper with a barrel shorter than 16 inches. How long does it take to make a SB? Seconds
Never comply. Also this is just smoke, look for the fire that will be EO for those evil “Assault Rifles”
On December 18, 2020 at 2:21 pm, Steady Steve said:
The gentleman in the video tries to blame Trump for this fuckery by ATF. Trump in fact made an executive order banning such new regulation by ATF, they have decided not to comply. It gives Trump cause to, when he is successful in securing the election, fire the entire top management of ATF. Trump has been letting the would be tyrants in our government expose themselves. It will be up to us to force them out. It was always up to us. Polymer 80 needs to start a lawsuit for this illegal action, and customers on the list need to start a class action against ATF. It is black letter law that the government is not allowed to start any kind of firearm registry.
On December 18, 2020 at 2:49 pm, Kick Ass said:
When guns are outlawed, I guess I’ll be an outlaw.
When gun owners are outlawed, I guess I’ll just become a shooter of authoritarian assholes.
No Nazis ever herded armed Jews onto cattle cars, savvy?
On December 18, 2020 at 3:52 pm, Dogbite said:
I heard from an ffl friend of mine that the atf is going to audit them next week. They were audited last August. Might be the atfgoons want to take all the 4476 forms? I dunno.
On December 18, 2020 at 4:06 pm, Fred said:
@steve, provide link to this EO or you’re a liar.
On December 18, 2020 at 8:00 pm, Longbow said:
Arbitrary and capricious are typical traits of a control freak / narcissist. ATF leadership wants to formalize these traits so that they can make rulings based on how they “feel” about any particular item. Which rulings can change, of course, at any moment, depending on how they feel.
To put it simply, they DO NOT want a clearly defined left and right limit to your range fan. If they mark a hard line, it allows you (all of us) to act in a free manner. That is what they cannot tolerate.
On December 18, 2020 at 10:43 pm, Sheepdog said:
“First we’ll take the guns, then we’ll have due process”
President Trump sitting next to Senatoress Feinshteen