Violence Gets You Nothing!
BY Herschel Smith
3 years, 10 months ago
So says Glenn Beck. Jim Treacher piles on at Instapundit. Mark Levin wants the perpetrators to be prosecuted, demands it, screams it at his audience. There is no end to the parade of “conservatives” joining the chorus of outrage and demands for retribution.
This will be brief, but I must say that as I’ve had time to think about it, I don’t really care what happened in Washington, D.C., except that a good woman perished. I don’t really care if it was a false flag event, I don’t care what was or wasn’t accomplished. I wouldn’t care if the capital building had been burned to the ground. I don’t do business there, and any shutdown of the business of the controllers can’t help but be good for the liberty of America.
But what I do care about is the rank, despicable, repulsive hypocrisy of those who enjoy the liberty bought for them by the blood, sweat, tears, toil, labor and in some cases the lives of better men who risked everything to purchase that independence from tyranny – but then who demand that the very tactics they chose to obtain that independence, absolutely necessary tactics as proven by the fact that the king had dispatched his armies, are never acceptable, bring nothing good, never accomplish anything worthy, and are to be avoided at all costs.
Such were the arguments in the continental congress, with the state of S.C. being the last to concede (because they knew that the Southern port of Charleston would be a foci of any campaign against the colonies and that S.C. would pay a terrible cost). Those arguments failed even for the delegates from S.C.
Violence against King George didn’t accomplish anything good, until it did, and liberty was purchased and freedom won. Spare me the moralistic preening, screaming outrages, and demands for justice. Those demands should have been proffered over the 2020 election fraud rather than the people who rebelled against that national crime.
And if you wish to criticize what happened at the capital, spare me your complaints about the next four years. I’m not interested in hearing them. Shut up and take it. You lost your moral justification with your claims that violence gets you nothing. Violence brought an end to the Islamic occupation of Europe, where little girls were raped and turned into sex slaves, boys were forced to become Islamic hoodlums, women were raped and then killed, and all of this happened in front of the men who were then tortured and killed.
Your threshold for invoking violence may or may not be the equivalent of mine or anyone else, but don’t tell me that violence gets you nothing and then reach for a gun when a criminal busts in your door to harm your family.
On January 7, 2021 at 10:47 pm, luke2236 said:
Amen.
There comes a point where violence is the only thing that accomplishes ANYthing…
On January 7, 2021 at 10:57 pm, Bill Buppert said:
And absent initiated and threatened violence, no state on Earth could exist. The whole statist framework is based on using the violence of government, a gang by any other name without the colored rags and bad music, to cajole and steal from the plantation dwellers into fear and obedience.
But the real magic is making the victims of the royal scam beg for more.
When a zookeeper is mauled or killed in the course of their duties, no tears from me.
On January 7, 2021 at 11:07 pm, Fred said:
All the media is approved media. Ok? Please tell me that y’all finally understand that when I’ve said here on many occasions that everything over the corporate media infrastructure is pre-approved by either CIA or State. Please get it. Please. If you only knew how bad it really is. If you only knew. None of the names mentioned here, and throw in tucker have ever told you that there are solutions outside of government saving us from government. It’s all propaganda, pro government propaganda. Please get it! Nobody on media will ever offer a solution to anything outside of seeking government. That’s the job, to keep you needing the State religion. Please get it. It’s propaganda.
How can men, learned men in Soviet history, readily and easily accept that the propaganda was total and often effective there, but then listen and watch it here and suspend disbelief for that little taste of cultish hope? Please tell me that you get now.
On January 7, 2021 at 11:22 pm, Sisu said:
Those “conservatives” that say “violence never accomplishes anything (or, gets you nothing)” are lacking “objectivity” (or willfully forgetting world history from the earliest records of civilization).
History teaches (me) that if the instigator of violence survives the defensive moves and counter attacks of those who possess the object of the violence – then the instigator gets what they want. … E.G., control of local “unlawful” or “lawful” activities including “taxation” in whatever form; … or in the case of the “shot heard round the world” (4-19-1775) – the ability to establish a new form of government; … or in the case of suppressing an insurrection, say in the form of secession of states, the ability to compel submission to a centralized form of government, …
And then there are the organized, spontaneous protests a la BLM, Antifa, … (dare I say) Hitler’s Nazi Party … (What could the objective there be ? Were they achieved ?)
It is somewhat humorous that when “conservative pundits'” income streams are threatened by the possibility that they have no capacity to serve as “wartime consiglieres” (“devoid of ambition and dispenses disinterested advice”) they advocate for patience. … Somewhere in that statement I suspect there is an analogy to how the Democrats have kept the “black Americans” on “the plantation” ever since they were emancipated (wait that was a Republican that emancipated them; could it be the “Civil War” was not about slavery but “control” ?).
On January 7, 2021 at 11:48 pm, Levi Garrett said:
I totally agree, Herschel. I desire to live at peace with all men, as far as it depends on me. Sometimes, though, the universal language of violence is the only one some people will hear and respect. I always found it a bit odd
that people venerate the founders of our country and put them up on a high pedestal, but then turn around and condemn those who would dare to take a just stand against the abuses perpetrated by the U.S. government today.
Apparently they don’t grasp that the founders were considered traitors and rebels against the ruling government of the day. They felt so strongly that they actually picked up weapons and killed agents of that ruling government. Apparently all of the patriotic things we feel and sing about on July 4th were won with Yankee Doodle, magic pixie dust, and good thoughts, rather than guns, balls, and violence. Those people would most certainly condemn the founders if they had done their deeds today rather than back in the 1700’s.
On January 8, 2021 at 12:48 am, Jimmy the Saint said:
Pretty encouraging to see exactly how much the “leadership” of our side really doesn’t believe in anything it previously said, isn’t it? Those that didn’t call for the murder of the protestors only fellated the state and demanded prosecutions. Guess we know who will be joining the new KGB/Red Guards and become its most fanatical and ferocious enforcers.
On January 8, 2021 at 2:02 am, Georgiaboy61 said:
“War is the continuation of politics by other means” – Carl von Clausewitz
For those who don’t know, Carl von Clausewitz is widely considered one of the finest military thinkers ever to have lived, certainly in the top dozen or so most influential military minds of all time. His masterful treatise, “On War,” is essential reading for those intent upon understanding what has been called the “ultimate trade” as plied by its ultimate practitioner – man himself.
If you’ll forgive the vulgarity, the hand-wringers and sky-is-falling chicken little types don’t have the sense to pour warm spit out of a boot. They’re fools and idiots of the worst kind – those who are convinced of their own brilliance. What’s more – they’re cowards and probably afraid of their own shadows.
On January 8, 2021 at 2:15 am, Georgiaboy61 said:
Re: “All the media is approved media. Ok? Please tell me that y’all finally understand that when I’ve said here on many occasions that everything over the corporate media infrastructure is pre-approved by either CIA or State. Please get it. Please. If you only knew how bad it really is.”
How bad is it? Bad, very bad. If it interests you, consider picking up “Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA,” (2007, Doubleday) by Tim Weiner. Bearing in mind that none of the worst stuff still under wraps has been released, what is now in the public domain is none-the-less hair-raising stuff.
Pretty much since the Dulles Brothers era of Eisenhower and the 1950s, the agency has been out-of-control and off its leash. Ike’s famous farewell address in which spoke of the dangers of the military-industrial complex were not pro forma; the warnings were very real. Likewise, Ike’s predecessor Harry Truman – who had signed the executive order forming the CIA – later stated that he wished he had not done so. The plain-spoken and hard-nosed Missourian knew he’d made a big mistake.
The CIA has been influencing media content in the biggest newspapers, magazines and electronic media outlets since the mid-late 1950s and “Operation Mockingbird.” That was more than sixty years ago, and if you believe things have gotten ‘better’ since then, I’d like to sell you a bridge and I’ll throw in some prime swampland, too.
The CIA charter specifically forbids the agency from operating on U.S. soil or against American citizens, but those rules went out the window when the Patriot Act was signed.
On January 8, 2021 at 7:32 am, Pat Hines said:
Anyone who has studied history can thwart those assertions easily.
Violence has solved a great many problems.
Violence will solve problems yet again in the future.
On January 8, 2021 at 7:45 am, HempRopeAndStreetlight said:
Our list of friends outside the blogs is getting pretty thin. Way I see it, anyone with a big platform has it for a reason. But sure was courteous of these scumbags to show us what they really think of liberty and more importantly, us. Batter to have a short list of friends we know than a long list of backbiting curs.
On January 8, 2021 at 8:24 am, Fred said:
The “factcheckers” would say that my statement is false. But way down in the fine print it would say; becuase it’s a combined effort of multiple agencies.
And, OBTW, there is a CIA employee in every major news house. This isn’t even disputed and is an open fact.
On January 8, 2021 at 8:25 am, June J said:
Those same cuckservatives who say “violence solves nothing” and “that’s not us” gleefully support sending American men and women to commit violence upon people of other nations. They will also gleefully support those sent to commit violence upon their deplorable countrymen.
On January 8, 2021 at 8:30 am, Wes said:
To Herschel, thank you. Properly said.
On January 8, 2021 at 9:01 am, DWEEZIL THE WEASEL said:
June J: These cuckservatives are merely useful idiots for the Illuminati, Wall-Street Bankster, Zionist Cabal which took over this country in 1913. This whole clown show, presided over by the Golden Golem is now history. The election was his to lose and he lost it, going clear back to the mid-terms. Trump was the best president Wall Street and Israel ever had.
The Marxist-Infanticide Party will buy off the sheeple with another “stimulus check”. The Karens and their health-care beta males will continue to force the face diaper mandate. The vaccines will continue to cull those Gates, Fauci, the Bilberbergers, and the Obama Cabal have deemed useless eaters. Look for more and more Chinamen to rear their ugly heads in flyover country, buying up failed businesses and farms for pennies on the dollar. Plan accordingly. Bleib ubrig.
On January 8, 2021 at 9:26 am, Trumpeter said:
Jeez, NEVER TRUST A NEVER TRUMPER. Both Levin and Cheeto face were Never Trumpers from the start. Aaand here we are parbing ways. Both these guys were dead to me by summer of ’16.
Say it again. NEVER TRUST A NEVER TRUMPER.
On January 8, 2021 at 9:35 am, Bob in NC said:
The best explanation of why we are where we are now
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/why-did-god-allow-biden-to-prevail
On January 8, 2021 at 9:55 am, Adino said:
‘Those that make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.’
JFK
On January 8, 2021 at 10:12 am, Ned2 said:
What a great time to be alive!
All the fake liberty pundits are being exposed, as well as all the middle-road cowards from the government to your neighbors.
It’s good to see people finally taking sides; it’ll make the clean up much easier.
On January 8, 2021 at 10:46 am, Sisu said:
Ned2 Please share the proven “protocol” for avoiding collateral damage; or do we all just take the RC approach – kill, at end of day “pray forgiveness”, in the morning start “killing again” ?
On January 8, 2021 at 10:53 am, Frank Clarke said:
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Nations and peoples who forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms.”
~ Robert A. Heinlein
(1907-1988) American writer
On January 8, 2021 at 10:54 am, Ned2 said:
Sisu, making list checking it twice.
We’re approaching a time in this country when violence will be the order of the day, they have left us no choice. That is unless you wish to live on your knees.
There will be no avoiding collateral damage. Expect losses. No war was ever won without losses.
On January 8, 2021 at 11:01 am, Frank Clarke said:
@Sisu: “…could it be the “Civil War” was not about slavery but “control” ?
From https://dispatchesfromheck.blogspot.com/2019/07/kindly-general-lee.html:
“Lincoln couldn’t, of course, shut down foreign newspapers, and the view from across the pond is enlightening. Virtually every European newspaper of the day thought the cause of the U.S. Civil War was ‘tariff and trade policy’, not ‘slavery’. The U.S. heavily tariffed manufactured imported cotton goods. The South produced cotton as its major crop, sold it to whomever would pay the going price, and that cotton would become shirts and other white goods in the mills of England, Massachusetts, and Connecticut, but the products arriving from Europe were exorbitantly priced due to the added tax. Eventually, Europe stopped buying cotton from America because they weren’t selling any product there, switched to Egyptian cotton, and left the South with only one place to sell their output: the North. The North, now with no competition for the South’s cotton, could squeeze the South on price. It wasn’t slavery that caused the Civil War, it was economics. The South was getting screwed by the North, and everyone (especially in Europe) knew it.”
On January 8, 2021 at 11:06 am, George 1 said:
Ned 2. Even if you choose to live on your knees that will only give about half a chance to survive. That half is probably wildly optimistic.
On January 8, 2021 at 11:28 am, Ned2 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CHdt2qRLj8&feature=youtu.be
Simon Parkes.
On January 8, 2021 at 11:30 am, Mack The Knife said:
As I write it, hundreds of people who participated in the rally at the Capital Building, Wednesday are losing their jobs. I found this on the foreign news service, unian/info.com. That aside, as far as violence is concerned, it’s the only language every man & woman on this planet understands without any lessons or need for interpretation. If you don’t why, all I can say is your one dumbshit.
On January 8, 2021 at 11:36 am, Harshy said:
Wow! Well said. Thank you for putting together your thoughts on this.
On January 8, 2021 at 11:43 am, Sisu said:
Ned@ I sincerely hope we will recognize one another.
On January 8, 2021 at 12:03 pm, Sisu said:
@FrankClarke I know; I suspect we mostly share many understandings in common. … But, as second generation on my Father’s side and third on my Mother’s, all came through Ellis Island and stay in NYC, a product of NYC public schools and city university – this history and more of our country was not hidden to me. Yet, I am amazed how many from other states (including the southern) and highly educated through the military do not know of the issue of “states’ rights” vs centralized government in Washington, or that Lincoln was anything but a “national hero” or the reconstruction amendments all have dubious legitimacy given the manner in which they were passed. …
My point in the first comment (it was late and I was cynical) is it is always about ceding “control” to others knowingly or (mostly) unknowingly.
Unfortunately, this country’s past success and freedoms were more illusory based on open space and (over the long term) expanding economy, which led most to the attitudes: “you don’t want to know how sausage is made”; “a land of laws not men”; “you can’t fight ‘city hall'”; “that what you pay taxes for”; “the meek shall inherit the earth”; … all readers can contribute their own nonsensical “pearls of wisdom” they’ve heard since first grasping the language.
On January 8, 2021 at 12:23 pm, Dov Sar said:
“He is sifting out the hearts of men before the judgment seat.”
The rodeo clown has been sifted. It is clear where most of the big people stand now. That is very helpful.
On January 8, 2021 at 12:57 pm, Stealth Spaniel said:
The traitors have all now exposed themselve.
Republican Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey told The Associated Press that while he sympathizes with the protesters’ position, they shouldn’t get violent, and it would be “nice” if Trump called on them to “protest in a peaceful way in an appropriate spot, where you belong, where you should be.”
>>Evidently “we” don’t belong in the Capitol. Or the Halls of Congress.
“It is one thing to be angry. It is another to focus one’s anger in a constructive way. That hasn’t happened today, to say the least,” Paul said. “We simply cannot destroy the Constitution, our laws, and the electoral college in the process.”
>>And here I thought he was a chip off the old block!
All of the myths have died now. We should all be focused on the future United States of America. The one before 1860. There is nothing to do but mourn the passing of all of our collective foolishness and vow never to sin again.
On January 8, 2021 at 1:07 pm, bogbeagle said:
Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst.
Robert Heinlein
The Leftists mean to enjoy a Purge.
They have a long history of winning.
I see no prospect of their losing, this time.
It simply does not matter ‘how many guns you have on your team’.
On January 8, 2021 at 1:28 pm, Build Wakanda Back Better said:
They have Stacy Abrams and we have no chance against that!
On January 8, 2021 at 1:29 pm, J J said:
“One man, pushed beyond his level of acceptance, can accomplish a lot” says Jack Hinson.
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/5007875-jack-hinson-s-one-man-war
On January 8, 2021 at 1:39 pm, Hudson H Luce said:
They’re not conservatives, they’re Loyalists.
On January 8, 2021 at 1:44 pm, George 1 said:
Also there was no violence at the Capitol. We have been told for 10 months that burning buildings and breaking windows and all manner of property destruction is NOT violence.
The only violence was delivered by the Capitol Police.
On January 8, 2021 at 1:50 pm, WDS said:
Levin’s radio show eulogy of Bill Barr’s resignation and what a great man he was while AG
nearly caused me to projectile vomit.
On January 8, 2021 at 1:57 pm, Hudson H Luce said:
I suspect that when they say “you”, they mean the class of people who are both the governed and who foot the bill for their governance. And that governance is done by violence, by the threat of lethal force. Every law enacted is that, a threat of lethal violence against those who oppose it. And that violence is freely dispensed by the armed forces of that government and their select militias, whether police or federal or state agents. So the State relies for its own existence – in the current state of affairs – on the proposition that violence gets the goods, figuratively and literally. And, as Sun Tzu says, supreme excellence in warfare is to win a battle without fighting.
On January 8, 2021 at 2:01 pm, Jack said:
It’s gonna be a Hot summer.
On January 8, 2021 at 2:18 pm, ApoloDoc said:
Outstanding … nothing to add except that may God continue to use you through this platform (and every other aspect of your life He providentially arranges … it IS a comfort understanding Covenant Theology, isn’t it!).
On January 8, 2021 at 3:22 pm, Rooster said:
What did this accomplish?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347094167411806211
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On January 8, 2021 at 3:57 pm, Fakebook IS Not Your Friend said:
Glennie Beck wasn’t busy passing out soccer balls to future lifetime democrat voters chanting Biden at the border?
Government lawya Levin the never-Trumper?
I’d rather listen to the Boston and Peter Frampton marathon on FM.
Didn’t esteemed party member comrade Chairman Mao have some quote about all power emanating from the barrel of a gun?
On January 8, 2021 at 4:22 pm, Ned2 said:
In regards to this story:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/01/07/capitol-hill-mob-accessed-congressional-computers—consider-them-all-compromised/?sh=52edda823815
I have heard from a friend in the business that Pelosi’s laptop, as well as those belonging to other prominent democrats were seized by spec ops, during the festivities.
Things could get interesting over the next two weeks.
On January 8, 2021 at 4:41 pm, Fred said:
Rooster, some are willing to die. It accomplished showing both(???) sides that this is serious. If you want to stay home and lick the hand that feeds you go ahead.
On January 8, 2021 at 7:22 pm, SteveP said:
Violence is often the correct response. And it nearly always solves the problem.
On January 8, 2021 at 8:52 pm, An Hoa Grifter said:
Beck and Levin eat buttered bread and sleep in warm beds.
If you take the King’s shilling you must do the king’s bidding.
Imagine if all those cameras taking selfies were rifles taking traitors.
On January 8, 2021 at 9:24 pm, ah64dulce said:
Saw that video of Glenn and the other Republicans sell outs and i feel exactly like yall do. Thanks herschel and levi
On January 8, 2021 at 9:34 pm, PubliusII said:
If violence didn’t work, no one would use it.
On January 9, 2021 at 8:39 am, Downtown Tony said:
I have often wondered why Glenn Beck had such a hardon for Martin Luther King and Ghandi. The nonviolent peaceful “resistance” against government forces that possess all manner of arms. After hearing his program on Thursday it’s clear to me that this is the mindset he and others want to instill in as many deplorables as possible. It’s much easier to eliminate a population that is passive and won’t fight back. He’s nothing but a damned Judas Goat.
On January 9, 2021 at 10:18 am, Rooster said:
LOL @Fred……me thinks you dont know me. My reference was to the loss of life for no good reason. You can skip the boot lickin tuff guy crap as it makes you look small and insignificant. If the Lord and the commies call me to the field it wont be with stick sign and words bro.
Rooster
On January 9, 2021 at 11:22 am, Mack said:
The Social Compact is now void.
The Communists have taken over.
The Battle of Athens presages what is needed now.
https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250266194
Worth a read? Well …
http://www.washingtonindependentreviewofbooks.com/index.php/bookreview/the-fighting-bunch-the-battle-of-athens-and-how-world-war-ii-veterans-won-the-only-successful-armed-rebellion-since-the-revolution
https://taskandpurpose.com/history/the-fighting-bunch-book-excerpt/
Cam Edwards tries to make it relevant – does he succeed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4X1WT5IL-s
On January 11, 2021 at 11:25 am, kaiserworks said:
Dear Patriots,
What has been done cannot be undone in the current system. Hypothetically, lets say T throws a last minute hail mary pass and the ‘republic’ is saved… Thats well and good but so what! Why would you want to go back to the old system? Income & property taxes, gun laws, endless wars on ‘terror’, drugs, poverty, racism ect, quotas over merit, foreign aid, inter generational welfare, rigged elections, corrupt courts, off-shoring, federal reserve – on and on and on. Unending evil. Why go back, WHY? What, are you going to reform a corpse? Are you going to vote harder next time? lol. Even if all was lollipops and rainbows in our current nation – you will never ever be represented in a polity of 300 million souls!
———-
I’ll tell you what the answer is and what the goal should be:
1776.
Independence.
A small nation(s) of like minded folks. Think many Switzerlands.
Don’t get too into the weeds about details or borders and what if’s. That will all come… as long as smart, patriotic folks have a goal to work towards. A goal that offers a just and free future for your children and generations yet unborn.
1776
1776
1776