The President Of The Southern Baptist Convention Is A Farce
BY Herschel Smith
3 years, 11 months ago
By way of brief education, the Roman Catholics believe in seven sacraments. Reformed churches believe in two sacraments, baptism and the Lord’s supper. They are considered sacraments, not ordinances. Baptists believe in two ordinances, baptism and the Lord’s supper. They are ordinances, not sacraments, in the baptist tradition. The point is not to start a complex discussion of these issues but to provide a brief primer on the subject.
(2/10) What happened yesterday was a disgrace, not only to democracy, but to the ordinance of submission to which God has called us in relation to our earthly leaders.
— J.D. Greear (@jdgreear) January 7, 2021
Don’t miss what’s happening here. A man with a ThD in theology, who is president of the Southern Baptist Convention, has told you that he considers “submission to earthly leaders” an ordinance of the church.
Are you a member of an SBC church? Does any part of your tithe money go to the SBC?
On a related note, I would be willing to debate Mr. Greear at any time, at any venue of his choosing, as to the what he considers to be his new ordinance of the church, and the basis on which he adds this. Of course, Mr. Greear would never accept such an offer to debate.
On January 8, 2021 at 10:58 pm, Viking Horns Coup said:
The replacements for traditional Americans get dropped off at the Panama Canal courtesy of the PRC and the churches get paid with buckets of cash.
You can look up the charitable groups and no need to call them out here.
Organized religion is corrupted just like everything else.
Delegit has spread to every level of society and it is a miracle that the lights are still on.
On January 9, 2021 at 12:16 am, scott s. said:
Have to say, this is the first I have heard of an “ordinance of submission” to civil authority. I do remember once going to an Eastern Rite mass in Virginia and they had some sort of prayer along these lines (obeying civil authority).
On January 9, 2021 at 12:38 am, Jimmy the Saint said:
Another supposedly conservative organization turns out to be not really all that conservative. Le gasp!
On January 9, 2021 at 8:05 am, Bill Buppert said:
The unpacking and repacking of Romans 13 in pursuit of tax status by the church…
Fallen takes on a new dimension.
On January 9, 2021 at 10:59 am, June J said:
Sadly, the SBC has joined the ranks of other mainstream progressive denominations. The SBC has been corrupted by progressive thoughts and ideals.
On January 9, 2021 at 11:47 am, Mack said:
I agree with Bill on Romans. Too many misapply those lessons, that turn out to be false.
But it’s worse than that. THE SBC is in self-destruct mode. They can’t even get this right:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/december/southern-baptist-critical-race-theory-debate-crt-seminary-s.html
On January 9, 2021 at 12:27 pm, billrla said:
What’s the SBC’s position on parking tickets? I looked in the Bible but cannot find a reference to the applicable ordinance.
On January 9, 2021 at 1:02 pm, George 1 said:
I remember reading somewhere that an associate of George Soros gave a pile of money to the SBC a while ago. I guess the desired result was achieved.
On January 9, 2021 at 1:42 pm, Stargazer said:
I believe that God has justly turned his back on us. Prepare for our 40 years in the wilderness.
On January 9, 2021 at 3:47 pm, Deserttrek said:
I do not have “earthly leaders” I vote for representatives, not leaders.
No free man submits to any human
On January 9, 2021 at 3:47 pm, Mack said:
Stargaze, please read the new book:
Decoding the Prophet Jeremiah: What an Ancient Prophet Says About Today
https://www.amazon.com/Decoding-Prophet-Jeremiah-Ancient-About/dp/1629997285
We are already in Exile.
On January 9, 2021 at 3:58 pm, Fred said:
So, as the husband, I can bring home three hookers and an ounce of cocaine and my wife should be fine with all that and join in because I’m the head of the family, ordained as such?
Got it.
Specifically to Romans 13; those first several verses are prescriptive. Obviously, painfully obviously both at the time of writing and today, it is not descriptive. Just as the Law of God is prescriptive in defining that a leader must be, exodus 18 – of able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and etc…
Romans 13 does not invalidate Exodus 18 (deut 1). And since all the God commands.
1 “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.”
If every soul is subject unto the higher powers, and there is no power but of God, then the powers (people) that are ordained must…be…wait for it…subject to Holy God. Duh.
2 “Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.”
Therefore when a leader resists the power of God (refer back to exodus right here) he is NOT in the fear of God, is outside the Law and ordanance(s) of Holy God, a wicked userper, that must be thrown down, and rightful government re-constituted because
3 “For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:”
That ruler IS in fact a terror to good works, and in league with evil. Fear of the lord, means that you fear God, most and above all to do “all that I command” (says (Christ), these commands being required of the leader, and His subjects (I’ll catch flak for that word but I’m busy and not writing 3 pages here). So, still in Romans 13:3, the ruler must do that which is good, and only Holy God by His Law through His Word defines and commands what is good, God then shall have praise of the leader, and that leader will have praise of his subjects
4 “For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.”
Again, God is adamant in repetition here; that leader MUST be a minister of God to do good (as defined only by God), or enjoined that leader would be what; an evil and wicked usurper of the throne of Christ Jesus, making the leader a fraud of Holy God, an…wait for it…antichrist.
Out of time to wrap this up with a bow but you get the point. Rom 13 are prescriptive commands of God, in keeping with the Law of God and not contrariwise to it. Further, back to the prescriptive nature of Romans 13, the most depraved and wicked types of antichrist ruled and reigned at the time of the writing of the New Testament, a blood covenant dear SBC, OBVIOUSLY, it wasn’t talking about how wonderful the Empire and it’s subjects were submitted to the Law of God, OBVIOUSLY.
I have one word for the government of the United States, His name was; Jehoiada.
On January 9, 2021 at 7:05 pm, Sisu said:
It is all about “control”. G-d does not “control”; He gifted to each “free will”.
On January 10, 2021 at 2:29 am, Georgiaboy61 said:
@ George 1
Re: “I remember reading somewhere that an associate of George Soros gave a pile of money to the SBC a while ago. I guess the desired result was achieved.”
That tracks with how Soros and his people like to do business. He routinely gives hundreds of millions of dollars to causes and organizations he cares about, most prominently his Open Society Foundation, which disburses monies to NGOs around the globe. He also gifts a lot through the Tides Foundation. The list of causes to which the Hungarian-born billionaire donates his money runs into the hundreds, possibly thousands, if foreign as well as domestic links are examined.
In 4GW, money is a potent weapon, and it is Soros’ weapon of choice.
Since it is rumored that Soros has Pope Francis on speed-dial and pretty much owns the guy, it would be small potatoes to bribe or co-opt something like the SBC.
On January 10, 2021 at 11:46 am, George 1 said:
Georgiaboy61. His tentacles are everywhere no doubt. Shows what we are up against and how far behind the curve we are at this point.
On January 10, 2021 at 2:22 pm, luke2236 said:
The sbc is under the control of…wait for it… the jew. Imagine that… just look at their leadership and read what they stand for. No right thinking White person, nor especially a Christian, could support the apostacy of the sbc.
Having said that, what everyone seems to miss when grossly misinterpreting Romans 13 is that God is describing a Godly government. And ONLY a government following Godly policies. Where was Paul when he wrote that passage? In jail. For what? For disobeying government edict.
Simple.
On January 10, 2021 at 3:33 pm, Cameron said:
In 1688 the English King was forced to abdicate following his attempt to force the
Protestants to attend the government church. This time of persecution was called “The killing times”. The result was the English Bill of Rights which I believe to be the first time the common man was given the right to possess weapons. The next king was forced to recognize and enforce this bill of rights. Lex Rex by Samuel Rutherford is the Biblical basis for the English and American Revolutions as well As the Declaration of Independence.
In ” The necessity of reforming the church” , by John Calvin, Calvin wrote to the French King to explain why the Protestants were willing to be burned at the stake, rather than attend the Mass. Unfortunately, these lessons, principles, are forgotten today.
On January 10, 2021 at 3:44 pm, Fred said:
Governments of men don’t give rights.
On January 10, 2021 at 7:55 pm, Deserttrek said:
Kiss my grits jd. Not one of your group anyway
On January 11, 2021 at 5:55 pm, Frank Golubski said:
PROPOSED SOUTHERN BAPTIST ORDINANCE #4: Lamenting living in a “racialized” society.