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1. On April 9, 2021 at 7:19 am, Kick Ass said:

   Not coming to steal my property; coming to meet your Maker.

2. On April 9, 2021 at 8:01 am, Fred said:

   Here’s the whole commie plan as outlined by the Biden election campaign. They always tell you what they are going to do but you never listen. Enjoy the camps.

   Remember, this has nothing to do with Biden. This is THE PLAN.

   https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

3. On April 9, 2021 at 8:35 am, Ned said:

   I dunno Fred – YMMV, but it seems that someone’s listening. And they’re buying guns and ammo in record numbers – when they can find them. Tried to buy any 5.56 or 9mm ball ammo for practice lately?

4. On April 9, 2021 at 9:49 am, Baddog said:

   Looks like they believe they have their ducks in a row, after installing the fraud government, and are ready to move to phase one of the purge.
   CWll is no longer on the back burner, they want it to go hot.

5. On April 9, 2021 at 12:51 pm, Fred said:

   @Ned, yeah, you’re right. Guns are now available again but ammo? It’ll cost you…when available.

   The Left is also arming and preparing. It’ll be a grand ol’ time.

6. On April 9, 2021 at 6:33 pm, Retired said:

   I keep reading that “they want to kill us.“ Does this mean they want to kill us only if we don’t surrender our guns? Or do they plan to kill us even if we don’t possess guns? If somebody could clarify this I would appreciate it.

7. On April 10, 2021 at 8:05 am, SemperFido said:

   @retired. -They want to kill us. Taking away the guns makes it easier.

8. On April 10, 2021 at 8:36 am, Retired said:

   @SemperFido. If we are disarmed what would be the reason for killing us? Would not the threat to them be gone? Or, is the reason for it just because our existence?

9. On April 10, 2021 at 11:09 am, George 1 said:

   @Retired. They want to kill us because about half of the country, and nearly all of the elites, have decided that we are evil and must be eradicated. It is not enough just to disarm us because then we would still be unspeakably evil, dangerous and a still a threat to their communist utopia.

10. On April 10, 2021 at 11:13 am, George 1 said:

    Sorry forgot to add:

    Communists do not need God to thrive (according to their beliefs). However they do need a devil to be in opposition to and crush.

11. On April 10, 2021 at 9:34 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:

    @ Retired

    Re: “I keep reading that “they want to kill us.“ Does this mean they want to kill us only if we don’t surrender our guns? Or do they plan to kill us even if we don’t possess guns? If somebody could clarify this I would appreciate it.”

    If one studies the history of genocide and mass murder, as the late political scientist Dr. R.J. Rummel did over his long career, patterns start to appear repeatedly. One of these is that would-be tyrants and mass-executioners first attempt to disarm the people they mean to victimize. This is particularly apparent over the last century and a half, i.e., the age of modern small-arms.

    Historians consider the Armenian Genocide c. 1915-1922, as the first “modern” genocide, in part because it was the first such event committed during the age of photojournalism and still/motion-picture photography.

    The Sunni Muslim Ottoman Turks singled out their Armenian and Greek minorities for persecution, and in the years leading up to the actual genocide, passed a series of laws designed to disarm their intended victims – and thereby render virtually helpless when the authorities came to round them up.

    Today, still and motion-picture evidence survive, documenting the horror of that event – including photos of young Christian girls and women nailed to crucifixes and left to die in the hot desert sun. The sacking and subsequent burning of the Greek city of Smyrna survives as film footage, taken in 1922.

    Just as the Ottoman Turks disarmed their intended victims, so did such other brutal and totalitarian regimes as Stalin’s Russia (USSR), Hitler’s Germany, Mao’s communist China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, and Castro’s Cuba, to name a few.

    According to Rummel’s research, which has been corroborated by other scholars, well over 100 million innocent people lost their lives at the hands of murderous governments intent upon exterminating them. Precise figures are tough to pin down to the number, but the true losses may be as high as 150 million dead.

    Rummel makes the point that – statistically-speaking – one is more at risk of being killed by one’s own out-of-control government than by a foreign invader.

    It is a coin toss as to which system of belief – Islam or communism – has resulted in the greater toll of human deaths in history. The Saracens probably take the top spot, as historians have estimated that some 230 million souls, almost all of whom were Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus or other non-Muslims, have been put to the Islamic sword in the 1,400 years since Mohammed founded that creed.

    The largest single act of mass murder in human history, committed by the Islamic Mughal (Mongol) Empire in what is now the Indian sub-continent during the 1500s, slew fifty million Hindus, Buddhists and other non-Muslims.

    However, in modern times, circa 1880 to the present, the communists have taken a greater number of lives by a considerable margin.

    The stats are not cut-and-dried, as some scholars include deaths from intentionally-induced famine (Stalin’s Russia, Mao’s China) whereas others do not, and where some authorities include deaths due to enslavement, others do not.

    If the record of history is an accurate guide, and I believe it is, then the only reason someone should have to disarm you is that they intend to persecute you in some manner.

    It is still against Turkish law today, to even speak of the Ottoman genocide, let alone claim that it actually happened.

    As the late Iris Chang noted, atrocities tend to occur in pairs: First, the actual act of mass violence itself, then the official cover-up. In Chang’s case, the Rape of Nanking was the event in question, and not the Armenian genocide – but the principle still holds.

    The Armenian genocide is historically-noteworthy for another reason. In Germany, a young Austrian veteran of the Great War, a recipient of the Iron Cross for wounds received in battle, observed the international apathy to the fate of the Armenians, and made his own plans for the future. His name? Adolf Hitler, Chancellor of Germany and later “Fuhrer of the German Reich.”

    In “Mein Kampf” (“My Struggle”), he would later write of the indifference of the international community to the plight of the Armenians, and that at the moment, he first believed he could deal with the perceived enemies of Germany in the same manner. Those he later labeled after Nietzsche, “Untermenschen” meaning “Under-men,” i.e., those peoples he judged “inferior” to the Aryan races, such as the mentally-ill, handicapped, gypsies, Jews, and others.

12. On April 11, 2021 at 9:33 am, Bob in NC said:

    Two statements which are good to remember, whenever the subject of gun confiscation /control is raised.

    “All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.”
    – Marbury vs Madison, 5 US 137, 174, 176 (1803)

    “The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it’s enactment, and not merely from the
    date of the decision so branding it. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.” –
    – 16 Am. Jur. Sec. 177 late 2d, Sec 256

13. On April 11, 2021 at 1:26 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:

    Re: “According to Rummel’s research, which has been corroborated by other scholars, well over 100 million innocent people lost their lives at the hands of murderous governments intent upon exterminating them. Precise figures are tough to pin down to the number, but the true losses may be as high as 150 million dead.”

    To clarify, that death toll is for the 20th century alone… the lower bound of that range is around 100 million, the upper around 150 million.

    If the figures for mass murder and genocide in historical periods previous to the 20th century are included, the casualty list becomes – quite obviously – much lengthier.

    Apologies for not making this point clearer the first time through….

14. On April 11, 2021 at 1:59 pm, Fred said:

    GB, now add in State sanctioned killing of the unborn.

    And, the Jews had a million Christians killed in the first and second centuries.

15. On April 11, 2021 at 3:14 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:

    @ Fred

    “GB, now add in State sanctioned killing of the unborn.”

    That’s a separate issue, albeit a vitally important one. As of this writing, the state is not compelling anyone to abort (kill) their unborn child. As such it lies outside of the discussion above, which is the genocide and mass murder committed by governments against their people.

    The line between private/individual conduct and government/state conduct is indistinct, I’ll admit. Via their tax dollars, the federal government forces traditional Americans who are opposed to abortion to fund Planned Parenthood, not just in the U.S. but all over the world. When foreigners speak about the destruction of their heretofore traditional societies and the animosity they harbor towards the decadent West (including the U.S.), Planned Parenthood is one of the organizations most mentioned.

    Re: “And, the Jews had a million Christians killed in the first and second centuries.”

    Fred, how does it feel having “The Jews” live inside your head, 24-7-365? I’m asking because it is almost time to invent a variation of Goodwin’s Law for you, i.e., the virtual certainty of any conversation with you inevitably being steered -by you – back to that particular sectarian group. You want to rant and rave about those folks with a deranged look in your eyes, please feel free – but at least have the courtesy to start your own discussion thread – or your own blog – rather than hijack this one.

    Moreover, the discussion is about “modern” genocide, i.e., within the last 150 years, not something that may have happened 2,000 years ago.

    If you are going to make accusations, be specific, i.e., provide the who/what/where/when and how. Hearsay doesn’t count as historical proof of anything, nor blanket declarations of guilty unsupported by evidence, which is precisely what your statement happens to be.

    We can make concrete statements about Muslim genocides from many centuries ago because of multiple converging lines of historical evidence, including archeological evidence. Whereas running around in circles, flapping your arms and screaming “It’s the Jews!!” isn’t legitimate historical scholarship, not by a long shot.

    Of course, there is always the possibility that you are on someone’s payroll and are being paid to post such nonsense, in an attempt to discredit this blog and its proprietor specifically, and Trad-Americans generally.

16. On April 11, 2021 at 4:01 pm, Fred said:

    My fault, I misunderstood the scope of the conversation.

17. On April 11, 2021 at 7:01 pm, Retired said:

    @Georgiaboy61
    A fine reply and thanks for writing it. I just can’t get something out of my head about the genocide problem. It’s a similar complaint that I have about the American civil liberties union so bear with me. I was sitting here an hour ago telling my friend just how annoyed I am at the double standard how we view the bill of rights in this country. For instance, I grew up as a very young boy in the 60s and then as a teenager in the 70s and college student in that decade, as a conservative minded authoritarian. I had no sympathy for civil rights and civil liberties for anyone who was subversive; like Ayers. It was fine and dandy with me to have these people locked up and throw away the key, but I was told by my parents and by teachers and professors that we have a bill of rights and it is designed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. OK, I grew up and learned to understand and accept that. Now, I am asking myself on a daily basis, where the heck are all those civil libertarians today? So getting to the genocide question, I recall the same liberals screaming and yelling during my youth about the horrors of genocide, yet here we are today with those same liberals or their offspring, who as you say, intend to use the genocide card against us, especially if we are stupid enough to turn in our weapons. It’s not that I don’t understand or accept what you or others have written to me in response to my question, it’s just that I get really ticked off at their transformation from civil libertarians to human butchers, from being in the minority, to now holding power. Maybe I was right as a kid and they should’ve all been wiped out. They don’t play by the rules that they once used, the rules of the game as I understood them.

18. On April 11, 2021 at 10:30 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:

    @ Retired

    You are correct about the transformation of the left. Forty or more years ago, the left styled itself the party of the downtrodden, the disadvantaged, the working man … all of the people who otherwise lacked a voice. If you grew up in the 1960s and 1970s, the hippies and flower-power generation talked all the time about “the man” and how he had to be brought down if society was to be just and fair.

    However pat it sounds to say, the left – the radicals of the Baby Boom generation – grew up protesting “the man,” now they’ve become “the man.”

    You mentioned Bill Ayers, infamous as the leader of the Weather Underground. Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, his colleague turned wife, beat felony charges brought against them by the federal government in the 1970s, on a mistrial due to procedural errors by the prosecution. To this day, Ayers brags of being “guilty as hell, free as a bird.”

    What did Ayers and Dohrn do after beating the rap? Return to the revolutionary underground? No, they joined the very establishment they had protested so vigorously. Not many years ago, Ayers retired from a tenured position as an educational professor at University of Illinois-Chicago, and his spouse, Bernadine Dohrn, likewise was a tenured member of the faculty at Northwestern University.
    Both became among the earliest supporters of Barack Obama, a then-obscure local politician and activist. Ayers helped Obama raise funds for his initial foray into state and then national politics, and he remains a close advisor and friend of Obama today.

    There is a difference between people protesting peacefully and within the framework provided by our nation’s founding documents, and what the Ayers and Dohrn and the others in the Weather Underground were doing.

    The former are engaged in the exercise of their civil liberties, as set forth in the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights; the latter were engaged in the attempted overthrow of our republic. Which is to say, they were guilty of incitement to violence, sedition, and probably treason.

    Ayers spoke often with his revolutionary comrades about the communist utopia they hoped to create in the United States. Ayers stated that he believed that there would be a large number of traditional Americans too-resistant to Marxist “reeducation” to be salvaged for the cause; these people were to be liquidated, as many as 20-25 million. In other words, Ayers was speaking of committing genocide.

    Ayers’ statements, as well as those of his comrades, were witnessed by FBI mole/informant the late Larry Grathwohl, who had infiltrated the group.

    Why do communists so often speak of murdering their opponents? Why does communism so often result in the gulag, the torture chamber and the firing squad?

    The great philosopher/writer, G.K. Chesterton, once said, “When man ceases to believe in God, he does not then believe in nothing, but in anything.” Including communism, for example. Communism is inherently atheistic. An ideology whose tenets are virtually impossible to reconcile with the tenets of Christianity.

    There are a number of inherent moral and physical hazards implied in such views.

    The great Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky, in his novel “The Brothers Karamazov,” explores the questions surrounding God, humankind and morality. In the course of the story, one of the characters, the brother Ivan Karamazov, famously states: “If there is no God, then everything is permitted.”

    The communists – people like Bill Ayers -embody this state of mind. Ayers and his colleagues, believing that there is no higher power who makes moral demands upon humankind, have decided to play God themselves, acting as judge, jury and executioner of their fellow human beings, who happen not to be communists, but traditional Americans instead. Or whatever group is being scapegoated at the time.

    The communists deny it but their ideology is a form of surrogate religion, a utopian philosophy which believes that man is perfectible into what they call “new man,” and likewise life on earth can be perfected into a socialist utopia.
    This view is utterly at odds with the traditional Christian view of man as fallen, flawed and therefore imperfect. It is also greatly at odds with the day-to-day realities of human existence. As Kant once observed, “Out of such crooked timber, no straight thing was ever made…”

    When communists establish their “heaven on earth,” their long-hoped-for socialist paradise – and see that it does not measure up to their ideals and expectations, they cast about for someone or something to blame. Since their ideology cannot be to blame, it must be the people themselves who are responsible. Specifically, those people who are not communists, or who are insufficiently “good” communists.

    At first, the non-communists are blamed and are the ones sent to the gulags, the prisons or the unmarked graves, but later, when these measures do not have the desired effect of creating their utopia, people judged to be insufficiently virtuous in their communist beliefs are singled out for punishment next. This is where one gets the the mass bloodletting seen in things like Mao’s “Cultural Revolution” (c. 1966-1976), or the French Revolution and its “Reign of Terror.”

    Re: “Maybe I was right as a kid and they should’ve all been wiped out. They don’t play by the rules that they once used, the rules of the game as I understood them.”

    That’s not the answer. If civilized people adopt the methods of the worst tyrants and mass-murderers in history, they are no different from them. Although anti-communists sometimes have to fight to protect themselves from the aggressive attacks of communism, i.e., which is a legitimate and moral use of force – they must not adopt the methods of the tyrants themselves. Meaning mass murder, genocide, and the like. Neither time nor space permit that discussion here, but there are plenty of other methods than these which are both more effective and lie within the bounds of the morality and ethics of our civilization.

19. On April 12, 2021 at 8:01 am, Retired said:

    @Georgiaboy61

    I still lean towards authoritarian Franco- or Pinochet-style rule because our system allowed the communists to incubate for at least 100 years and now take power. They marched through all our institutions beginning before you or I were born. They undermined our religious value system and in the process corrupted souls and thereby destroyed the virtue necessary for the American Republic to sustain itself. They made a living surviving on the judicial system and now that we need it, judges won’t rule based on law but on feelings and class bias. We couldn’t keep our republic. We have only one option left. Thank you for engaging in the conversation.

20. On April 12, 2021 at 5:04 pm, Fred said:

    “…discredit this blog and its proprietor specifically, and Trad-Americans generally.”

    Telling the truth discredits the owner of the place where the truth is told? This is a saul-alinsky tactic. Are you a zionist and communist becuase you sure sound like one.

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