F-15s Used Against Americans?
BY Herschel Smith
3 years, 6 months ago
Questions.
Let me help the licensed regime journalists with some questions this remarkable outburst gives rise to…
“Mr. President, if you plan to use force against American citizens, can you tell us how many BCTs the American military has currently deployable within the United States?” https://t.co/hgYGwH6Nzt
— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) June 23, 2021
“Can you explain how you would employ bombers to hold territory, like a city? What means would you use to identify targets to bomb within the United States? What would the rules of engagement be when using bombers against American citizens?”
— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) June 23, 2021
“Have you considered that the military forces of the National Guard in red states, which include aircraft, artillery and infantry, may refuse or even oppose your campaign against American citizens? Would you attack those forces?”
— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) June 23, 2021
And he continues. It’s brutal.
Splendid. Frankly, to hear a politician speak this way is unseemly, vulgar, uneducated, unbefitting, unrefined, and indecorous.
As for the facts of the matter, I think the following groups might have something to say about this speech: VC, AQI, AQAP, and sandaled Afghan tribesmen wearing pajamas on the mountainsides of the Hindu Kush. That about covers it – Vietnam to Yemen.
On June 23, 2021 at 10:22 pm, Frank Clarke said:
http://frankclarke.dx.am/TipPtPage.html
On June 23, 2021 at 10:49 pm, Whitespace said:
I think having bombs dropped in American territory would, in fourth generation war terms, ensure the eventual defeat of the government. Enervating the public and diluting the polity still appears to be the most dangerous weapon at their disposal.
On June 23, 2021 at 11:58 pm, George 1 said:
@Whitespace. I agree. If the military ever used any heavy weapons against Americans it’s probably on like Donkey Kong with all of the associated horrors for both sides that would bring.
On June 24, 2021 at 12:58 am, Jimmy the Saint said:
When the Gummint fought in Vietnam and Afghanistan, it imposed highly restrictive rules of engagement on its minions. Don’t think for a second that the ROE against TradAms will be anything short of “Caedite Eos.”
On June 24, 2021 at 7:31 am, Joe Blow said:
If you don’t think that was a treasonous threat to the American people, I think you just volunteered for rule 308.
On June 24, 2021 at 7:33 am, VietVet said:
Bwahahaha bwahahaha
Careful Joe
Some people are more than willing to call your bluster
On June 24, 2021 at 7:37 am, June J said:
The presidential office holder should immediately be impeached, convicted and removed from office for the high crime of threatening the people with using the military against them.
But the spineless weasels who identify as Americans in DC won’t do anything.
On June 24, 2021 at 7:39 am, Bill Buppert said:
As I have mentioned elsewhere, all anti-armor operations begin in the motor pool.
One should consider the mindset of government supremacists when they talk like this; in essence, they are admitting that they take it as holy writ that they may use any degree of violence and force to ensure their power in office and position as plantation owners is never challenged and the mere mention of resistance by the serfs justifies any horrors and pogroms visited upon the malcontents and miscreants for even considering disobedience.
Herschel is right, the more women and children maimed and murdered by the smarmy and self-assured junta in their campaign to maintain their power through violence, they will never contain the swelling of insurgent ranks as men make it their duty to defeat whomever or whatever is used against them.
Schlichter is a retired USA infantry COL.
On June 24, 2021 at 8:45 am, George 1 said:
Another thing that would be unavoidable with any general combat operations against American citizens is that stocks, bonds and real estate values would tumble off a cliff. The bankers would not be happy, although many of them might think they are initially. Old Joe would truly have to put that printing press at hyper speed. Our so-called foreign allies would start to drop us like hot potatoes.
All bad Ju-Ju for the people who actually run the country.
On June 24, 2021 at 8:48 am, Pistol Pete said:
I thought – We the people are the government – those F15’s they belong to us we paid for them. Same with the nukes. Why can’t the 99% see? We have them out numbered and out gunned, yet allow schwab and company to lead us by the nose. Joe is just an old fool, a puppet. I’m not wasting time hating on him, like he’s some kinda master mind…please. There are some out there that have a whole lot of ugly planned for us though.
On June 24, 2021 at 9:48 am, Ohio Guy said:
I’m your Huckleberry.
On June 24, 2021 at 10:28 am, Mark Matis said:
They won’t use F-15s. Instead, they’ll use drones. And they won’t use nukes. Their shithole hive constituency is downwind of every credible strike area. Can you imagine what those hives would do when the fallout fell out on them?
On June 24, 2021 at 10:28 am, blake said:
This is the second time someone on the left has talked about using nukes on Americans.
The left is not fooling around and is letting everyone know they will do whatever it takes to remain in power.
On June 24, 2021 at 11:55 am, Grey Mobius said:
there already is a precedence for the government bombing +/or shooting Americans in America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army
We just seem to either forgot or have never learned in the first place.
On June 24, 2021 at 12:06 pm, MTHead said:
To funny! I can hardly wait for Kamala to take over!
On June 24, 2021 at 2:43 pm, TRX said:
Apparently Biden and his handlers didn’t pay attention when Swalwell threatened almost exactly the same thing in 2018. Or they’re all too senile to remember that far back.
Larry Correia’s classic rebuttal is worth reading again: https://monsterhunternation.com/2018/11/19/the-2nd-amendment-is-obsolete-says-congressman-who-wants-to-nuke-omaha/
On June 24, 2021 at 5:40 pm, Fred said:
But the left already beat you with their local police/politician backed street armies and rigged voting machines, and you did NOTHING. I don’t believe for one second that Americans will fight back at all.
On June 24, 2021 at 8:15 pm, Sisu said:
Fred, You are likely correct. Which is why the “Patriots” will win. … When the tyrant cannot identify the enemy (insurgent; patriot) they will begin killing everyone they “do not know to be of value (and even a few of their own)” at that turning point from the population of submissives will come a resistance, … and a vicious cycle which will overwhelmingly becomes a virtuous cycle. … Neither you nor I nor anyone else commenting here will be alive, and it will take perhaps a few generations, but “good” will again triumph for a time over “evil”. … Stop being so negative.
On June 24, 2021 at 9:37 pm, Brad said:
Fred
Apparently you didn’t do anything either. Right?
On June 24, 2021 at 10:45 pm, JB said:
The old demented communist just told the world he fears the American people.
When Joe said that the largest national security threat to the country are White guys with AR’s he was really saying that he, Joe Biden is shaking in his slippers that some Americans would hunt him down like scared rabid dog.
I suspect the Biden regime is getting worried the election audits are going to expose the truth, and the reaction of the American people will likely be nothing short of scenes from the film Escape from New York. This is why the purge of Patriots from the military is underway and a likely very extreme executive order on gun control is forthcoming. Perhaps a few Biden orchestrated false flag attack(s) will take place to nudge the public into accepting the regimes White terrorist menace propaganda.
By the way, the recent performances before Congress by Secdef Austin and JCS Chief Milley was wretching. What happened to these old warriors ?
On June 24, 2021 at 11:30 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:
@ JB
Re: “By the way, the recent performances before Congress by Secdef Austin and JCS Chief Milley was wretching. What happened to these old warriors ?”
They were perfumed princes all the time, and not the genuine article.
Austin is a 21st-century version of Colin Powell, an affirmative-action appointee promoted far above his abilities, and more importantly, far above his capacity for moral courage and ethical behavior. I’m sure his resume is “impressive” in all of the right ticket-punching ways, but fundamentally, if he can’t – or won’t – honor his oath when the chips are down, he is unworthy to wear the uniform and the rank he holds. That goes double if he is willing to carry water for such a frankly communist regime as this one.
The same holds true of Milley, by the way. Like Austin, he has proven himself to be de facto a prostitute, willing to sell himself to the highest bidder to keep his rank, position, and pension.
Surely, you are aware that no one attains flag/general officer rank in the U.S. military without the “advice and consent” of Congress, which is a round-about way of saying that all flag officers are, by definition, political creatures.
Worse yet, the current method by which senior officers are chosen pretty much guarantees that the most-qualified candidates are selected out of the system before or by the time they reach O-6 rank (Colonel or Captain, depending on branch). The present system pretty much selects against every desirable quality of a senior officer, which is how such mediocre time-servers and ring-kissers as Austin and Milley wound up where they are today. That’s the proof of that particular pudding.
In contrast, some of the finest officers and combat leaders ever produced by this country, men like USAF Colonel John Boyd and U.S. Army Colonel David L. Hackworth, topped out at O-6 and couldn’t get promoted into the general/flag officer ranks, no matter how well they performed or how many battles they won.
Why? Many reasons, but the biggest being that they wouldn’t compromise their oaths as officers and both men were known for not suffering fools gladly and were blunt in saying so.
Men like Hackworth and Boyd were blunt, out-spoken and refused neither to compromise their principles, their oaths as officers, nor their duty to the armed forces and the men in them. A modern example would be someone like Colonel Allen West, a principled man who knowingly risked (and later sacrificed) his commission and career to save the men under his command, who were under threat in combat operations. West’s so-called “trial” by the Bush administration was a fiasco from start-to-finish, but that’s a story for another day. West did the right-but-hard-thing when the chips were down, even though he later paid for it. That’s what a real leader does.
Colonel Boyd was famous for telling young and up-and-coming officers “with stars in their futures,” that they had a choice to make: They could “be someone, or do something.” Meaning, they would have to choose which fork in the road to take – the one which leads to elevated rank, possible fame, wealth and influence; or the one that leads to genuine accomplishment, and doing something worthwhile for one’s service and the nation, even if it means missing out on those other things.
The implication by Boyd, which unfortunately has been proven to be correct, that getting all of those things – high rank, fame, influence, wealth -involves selling out in some manner. A betrayal of one’s oath.
Milley and Austin certainly fit that mold. It is shameful that these swamp creatures represent the “finest leaders,” so-called, that we are supposed to be able to produce. If they are indeed the “best,” then heaven help us if the balloon goes up against a genuine peer opponent.
On June 25, 2021 at 6:22 am, Fred said:
That: “be someone or do something” is so very often scalable and transferrable.
On June 25, 2021 at 11:15 am, Bradlley A Graham said:
The conflict is no longer a theoretical possibility it is here. Sell them while you still can or stand ready to use them. There is no try.
Shall not be infringed means nothing until you personally enforce it.
On June 25, 2021 at 11:18 am, Georgiaboy61 said:
@ Fred
Re: “That: “be someone or do something” is so very often scalable and transferable.”
Say that a little louder, OK, so that your local DHS fusion center can hear you!
On June 25, 2021 at 7:01 pm, ambiguousfrog said:
Schlicter on occasion will share his experience in the reserves during the L.A. Riots and a stint in Kosovo. He observed what happens with the civil order breaks down.
On June 27, 2021 at 6:54 am, Papa said:
I’m more concerned with drone operators presently operating within US borders.
And their operations and body count outside the US.
On June 29, 2021 at 4:45 am, Hudson H Luce said:
Drones take aviation gas. That can become a scarce commodity really quickly. They also require electricity. That, too, can become scarce. Think logistics. A couple more things – this would be a war without fronts, no holding of territory by either side; and there would be no one person to negotiate a ceasefire. After a while, it could get to be really expensive. The people fighting for their families and homes – or for revenge – take a different view of things than those fighting for pay and benefits.