Post 911 History of M1911A1 in use with U.S. Special Forces
BY Herschel Smith2 years, 11 months ago
This is very interesting and a good commentary on the recent history of the 1911 in U.S. special forces by someone who was there.
This is very interesting and a good commentary on the recent history of the 1911 in U.S. special forces by someone who was there.
On December 7, 2021 at 11:14 pm, George 1 said:
Interesting that the SOF operators have mostly gone to Glocks. The Military and specifically the Army recently went with Sig P320s after an extensive evaluation and testing program.
I guess Big Army does not trust their regular soldiers with pistols that have no safety.
On December 7, 2021 at 11:37 pm, Herschel Smith said:
But George 1,
It’s the operators who requested the 1911 for reasons explained in the video, not the DoD.
FWIW.
On December 7, 2021 at 11:45 pm, George 1 said:
Very True. There is still no better trigger than a good 1911. There probably will never be a better one.
On December 8, 2021 at 1:01 pm, jsf said:
Quit listening after hearing for the umpteenth time : “rocking it wth and then jealous because they got Kimbers.” Long winded BS.
On December 8, 2021 at 7:51 pm, Bill Buppert said:
Glock 19s [and variants on the model] are the go-to pistol in SOCOM.
On December 8, 2021 at 9:50 pm, Quietus said:
Well I got halfway through the vid. It was curious when he missed several opportunities to say the word “Colt” as he described his personal gun as a M1991A1.
So, they took forty-some rebuilt pistols to a class and had seven gun failures, catastrophic, which he attributes to much use of the forged and aged parts prior to rebuild. From the slide lug failures, he did a quick turn to frames wearing out. So WTF right there. I disagree with his causation of failure.
I’d posit that the cause of slide lug failures, was poor selection of, as said, NOS barrels, and possibly link length selection. The armorers involved with the rebuilds likely did not do any checks of the fitting of the barrels to the slides, nor any extra special work to determine proper link length for the slide/barrel/frame fit. I don’t think that the locking lugs of the slides caused the failures, I’d be looking towards poor fitting (or selection of NOS) of barrels and links.
Dealing with NOS parts made fifty-some years in the past, done by people who just possibly were not well-versed on M1911 guns due to that gun being superceded almost a generation prior by the M9, just may have caused some poor selections in choosing barrels and links by the people doing the builds. That is my speculation. You don’t get seven catastrophic slide lug failures out of forty-some guns, just by chance. That is not a noted point of failure in that gun’s history. Somebody screwed up on the rebuilds.
On December 8, 2021 at 9:53 pm, George 1 said:
@ Bill Buppert
I would think just from the armorers/maintenance standpoint the Glock would be pretty hard to beat. Very reliable, durable and I am not aware of a pistol with the capability of the Glock that can be stripped of every internal part and put back together in under 5 minutes.
They aren’t perfect but nothing is.