Hawley wants answers on ATF registry
BY PGF
2 years, 7 months ago
Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) thinks he can fight the permanent bureaucracy, the foot soldiers of Woodrow Wilson’s administrative apparatus. Hawley will lose, or if he oversteps, we know what the regime does to those trouble makers.
Senator Hawley asked, “What steps does ATF intend to take to ensure that any new information that may be retained by FFL dealers pursuant to Final Rule 2021R–05F is not subsequently used for the targeting of lawful gun owners by federal authorities or other politically-motivated purposes?”
The government(s) is in open insurrection against the people and a state of anarchy, doing what it pleases while ignoring its laws, branches, and departments.
There’s already a database.
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On May 3, 2022 at 8:15 pm, J said:
Circus theater, nothing more.
On May 3, 2022 at 9:22 pm, Chris said:
(Relection time)’s getting closer.
On May 3, 2022 at 10:47 pm, Frank Clarke said:
The House Republicans have almost always been able to get answers to questions they really want answered. The solution is to use the budget power to leverage the answers loose.
CongRep: “Secretary Jones, your budget for the coming fiscal year is $11,000. Will you be able to operate with that?”
JONES: “OMG! No! I need 130 billion for our operations!”
CongRep: “Here’s a list of questions we need answered. When you bring satisfactory answers back, we can revisit your budget numbers.”
Why has this scene NEVER played out? Because rhetorical questions are not actually meant to be answered.
Vote Republican if you don’t care about ever getting answers.
On May 4, 2022 at 7:51 am, Heywood said:
“There’s already a database.”
Correct, Sir. I have been saying that for years. Nobody is curious how they know the purchaser, date purchased and where purchased of firearms used in the narrative progressing shootings that make the headlines? Of course there is a registry which is why they are pushing so hard for paperwork on person to person sales.
On May 4, 2022 at 12:08 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:
@ Heywood
Re: “Nobody is curious how they know the purchaser, date purchased and where purchased of firearms used in the narrative progressing shootings that make the headlines?”
The way the system is supposed to work in theory is that the vendors – the FFLs – have customers fill out the 4473 paperwork and submit their background checks during the transfer process of purchasing a firearm.
The authorities are not supposed to request to see the documentation unless the information is being requested as part of a criminal investigation, but it is an open secret in the retail FA industry that agents show up unannounced all the time and ask to examine records without an explicit reason for doing so. Why? Because they can.
And when an FFL retires or goes out of business, he is required by federal law to submit his Form 4473 archives to the ATF. So they end up getting the records that way, too.
The whole system functions as a de facto registry of firearms, even though the dealers house the records and not the Feds, per se. That’s just the legal fig leaf which allows your local Congressman or Senator to claim straight-faced that there is no gun registration or registry in this country.
On May 4, 2022 at 1:04 pm, Jay Dee said:
The only way to get rid of bureaucracy is to apply a sunset clause to every government program and agency. Another good option is to create a process for a plurality of states to recall federal employees, appointed officials, regulations, legislation, anything.