7mm PRC vs Elk
BY Herschel Smith
2 years ago
I think Hornady has a 7mm PRC devotee. But my question remains, what if you’re not hunting Elk at 400 yards, but rather, white tail at 50 – 100 yards? It seems to me that 7mm PRC isn’t so preferable to .308 or 6.5mm Creedmoor.
On November 9, 2022 at 7:51 am, Joe Blow said:
The plethora of bullets available today is amazing. As hobbiests we are fortunate. However…. niche cartridges take manufacturing capacity. Capacity that could bring more common rounds down in price.
These are handloader cartridges, commercialized at our expense. You’re paying more for your deer rounds so this guy can hunt elk at a buck fiddy a pop.
Shoot 300 win mag and quit bitching about your shoulder, pussy. LOL!
On November 9, 2022 at 9:25 am, Herschel Smith said:
“Shoot 300 win mag and quit bitching about your shoulder, pussy. LOL!”
You’re being emotional and you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Shooters don’t shoot the 7mm PRC for lack of recoil. In fact, the recoil is almost the same as the 300 Win Mag.
They shoot it for the flat trajectory and very high BC.
https://backfire.tv/7mm-prc/
“Commercialized at our expense.”
You didn’t pay a dime to commercialize this cartridge unless you bought Hornady products, and you always have a choice not to do that.
On November 9, 2022 at 10:32 am, Latigo Morgan said:
Dang road hunters. Sorry, but I shut off the video after that. If you’ve had a deer you’ve been tracking and stalking killed by road hunters sitting up on the road as you spent all morning trailing it, you might feel the same way. Especially when the bullets start flying your direction.
On November 10, 2022 at 1:55 am, Georgiaboy61 said:
@ Joe Blow
7mm PRC isn’t being introduced because it has light recoil. It is very much a magnum cartridge, in fact one significantly more-powerful than 7mm Rem-Mag, if reports are accurate. Recoil may be on par with 300 Win-Mag, depending on the precise loads being used and so forth.
Rifles of this kind cater mostly to two potential markets:
First, long-range hunters who may be taking shots against large game from 200-300 yards away or more, across a canyon or a draw or the like, and still need ample power to make a clean kill. People who are really into LR hunting and who have the skills and equipment, really get into this sort of thing, and shots at 600-800 yards are now common. A friend of mine, who is retired U.S. Army special forces – took a large mule deer, I believe it was, at almost 700 yards in rural Ohio, and he used a 338LM. I wouldn’t attempt a shot like that, but some people do it.
Second, long-range competition and target use, such as the Precision Rifle Series competitions or PRS. 7mm (.284-cal.) projectiles are extremely efficient and have excellent ballistic coefficients and sectional densities, and are star performers at long range. A well-designed 7mm load can remain supersonic well past 1500 yards, and that’s by no means unusual. It is simply a reality given the state of ballistics and rifle technology today.
What does 7mm PRC offer that existing cartridges in this class do not? To read the marketing materials of Hornady and other companies involved in designing this chambering, the cartridge offers a more-modern case design that preserves internal powder capacity while allowing plenty of neck and free-bore space in which to employ long-and-heavy for caliber high-BC bullets. Second, a twist rate of 1:8 or faster typically, to allow the use of the latest projectile designs. A standard 7mm Rem-Mag usually has a 1:9 or a 1:9.5, which tops you out at around 162-grains. A 1:8 allows all the way up to 190-grains, which matters if you are doing ELR work.
On November 10, 2022 at 9:33 pm, Ned said:
Not a big fan of shooting animals at long range. A lot of hunters around here in central AZ brags about their 1000+ yard shooting ability (because they bought a high dollar rifle and scope and rangefinder.) Our local club only has a 300 yard range. It takes some effort to shoot 1000 yards around here. Pretty likely all these people aren’t long range ace shots.
All I ever did when elk hunting locally was track wounded animals with no human tracks following them. Gave up one set I’d tracked for half a day when I saw that someone else had thankfully cut the tracks and was in front of me and closer to the animal. Good. Guys will shoot 700+ yards and think a hit is going to make that bull fall down on the spot. Then they won’t walk the mile down and up the canyon to check their shot and see if there’s blood or an animal down in the area.
I could have shot a bull at 400+ yards with a 7mm RUM – instead I shot him at about 35 yards. He didn’t just fall down, either. He spun and ran about 30 yards until he piled up on a tree. One would have thought that shot was a miss from 1000 yards.
Longest shot I took on a bull was about 100 yards with a muzzle loader.
So many “long range” shooters never actually walk up and check their shot and leave wounded animals in the field. I know of guys who have shot at half a dozen bulls at long range without checking their shot. I hate that.
Hunting used to require skills and stealth. Now it requires expensive tools, the willingness to shoot at any range, and a lack of ethics.
I had to shoot a mule deer buck a second time because he was quartering away more than I thought and my bullet went in behind the shoulder and out the brisket without striking any vitals. I could have closed the distance by a hundred yards and didn’t. So I wounded that buck and it took me another hour to finally kill him. That was the last long shot I made on game.
YMMV.
On November 10, 2022 at 10:55 pm, Herschel Smith said:
If there is anything that will cause people to disrespect (even hate) hunters it’s unethical practices and causing unnecessary pain and suffering. Ethical hunting. Do it or don’t hunt at all.