Did Constitutional Carry Just Get A Second Life In South Carolina?
BY Herschel Smith9 months, 3 weeks ago
COLUMBIA, S.C. (WIS) – Within a matter of days, South Carolina could become the 29th state in the country to allow adults to carry guns with no permit or training.
On Tuesday, a group of legislative negotiators struck a compromise after weeks of discussion on the bill known as “permitless carry” or “constitutional carry.”
“The dialogue we’ve been having with the Senate, the House, and the governor’s office is that they want this to immediately become law,” Rep. Bobby Cox, R – Greenville and the bill’s lead sponsor, told reporters following the conference committee’s meeting Tuesday morning.
The Senate and House had already passed this permitless carry gun bill, but their versions of it were different.
Yeah, the gamesmanship in the S.C. senate codified the right to carry without a permit as long as you had a permit. No, I’m not kidding.
The compromise they reached Tuesday now allows the bill to move closer to the governor’s desk.
In their agreement, the bill would allow adults 18 and older to carry loaded handguns openly with no permit or training.
Guns would still be banned in the same places they are now, including schools, courthouses, and the State House, and people could still obtain a concealed weapons permit if they wanted.
It would also tack on the governor’s top request, increased penalties for people who illegally carry, like felons who possess guns despite being legally barred from doing so.
The negotiation committee adopted most of the Senate’s changes, including optional, free training offered twice a month in every county and tougher penalties for people who do not have a permit and are caught carrying where it is prohibited.
“Is it really fair to, I guess, punish those particular folks more severely than the ones who choose to get a CWP when the state doesn’t require it anymore?” Rep. Justin Bamberg, D – Bamberg, asked.
Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey, who advocated for those enhanced penalties during the Senate’s debate on the bill earlier this year, pointed out they would only apply to people already convicted of certain gun crimes.
“Y’all, we’re talking about criminals now,” Massey said. “We’re talking about shooting into a dwelling, we’re talking about sneaking a gun into a school, we’re talking about pointing a weapon at somebody.”
But they nixed a Senate provision that would allow state lawmakers to carry guns in places where the general public cannot, an exemption that judges and prosecutors currently have.
“We’re not special. We’re servant leaders, and what’s good for our constituents is good for us,” Cox said.
They also omitted a House section that could have, unintentionally, allowed local school boards to vote to override the ban on guns in schools.
Well, congratulations, maybe, for the win for civil liberties. I want to see the bill first. This has been a long, hard-fought battle to get open carry first (with a permit), and then constitutional carry next (because of law enforcement opposition – as always, of course, you know, because of the “blood running in the streets” and all of that). I have always advised incrementalism, and the gains have been nothing if not incremental.
I will try to find out the gesticulations of the committee and get the final bill and share as I can.
On March 6, 2024 at 6:45 am, Jean Clement said:
I hold these truths to be self evident. All humans have the right to self defense regardless of human rules.
On March 6, 2024 at 8:26 am, dirtroads said:
I look forward to your take on the bill when released. Zero trust until then with duplicitous politicians like Massey.
On March 6, 2024 at 12:22 pm, Kevin said:
It is amazing to me how people cheer this kind of legislation.
We already have open carry.
The Bill of Rights is about what government shall not do.
Permit?
We ain’t go no permit, We don’t need no permit, We don’t need no stinking permit!
When they start passing laws that read “Any Guberment goon that deprives a free man of his right to keep and BEAR arms will be held criminally liable” and then they are held liable, then we are getting somewhere. Till then it is just slaves begging the slave master for their rights. Free men don’t wait for a court to affirm or a legislature to grant rights.
On March 7, 2024 at 10:39 am, Joe Blow said:
What Kevin said above!!!!!!
If your “Right” needs be permitted, it is not a “Right”.