The ATF Says That When You Sell a Firearm, You’re An Unlicensed Dealer
BY Herschel Smith
8 months, 1 week ago
But of course. It’s entirely legal, but it deprives the controllers of information they want. You can’t be god with the corollary omniscience if you don’t know everything. They want to be god. Therefore, they must know everything.
On April 9, 2024 at 1:27 am, Dan said:
This fact is why some states…like Nevada… have passed laws and even Propositions requiring that ALL firearm sales go through an FFL so they can keep track of who owns what.
Sadly, in Nevada, especially the rural counties, this law is widely ignored.
On April 9, 2024 at 1:18 pm, scott s. said:
This has been an issue going back to the 1938 FFA. Since back then Congress was more concerned about the limits of the “commerce clause” they had to limit the definition “dealer” to being “in the business of” which also required repetitive buying and selling with a “profit motive”.
In the real world there isn’t going to be a bright line about “profit motive”, hence with our rule by executive order, they can just redefine “in the business” any way they want. This has long been an issue for collectors as regards “improving a collection”. The ATF has believed the collectors license (provides some ability to buy but nothing for selling) was a dodge for “illegal dealing”.
Of course we’ve also had since Clinton the push to eliminate licensed dealers, so we can blame ATF itself for there not being “dealers” out here.
On April 9, 2024 at 10:46 pm, Plague Monk said:
I had an opportunity recently to purchase an 1816 Springfield Armory musket with the flintlock from a gun store, but I balked at undergoing the NICS check for that. The dealer told me that he doesn’t care how old the gun is; with BATF rampaging around the country(except in the inner cities) he’s not taking any chances.
I passed on the gun.
On April 11, 2024 at 5:08 am, Joe Blow said:
Tennessee allows private party transactions. I refuse to purchase anything from an FFL anymore. And I tell them that all the time, too.
“That’s nice, I really like it, I’m going to find a used one to buy so I don’t end up on a government watch list.”
On April 12, 2024 at 7:20 pm, Miles said:
If it hasn’t become clear to by now, this new ATF/DoJ rule isn’t to ‘tighten background check’ or somehow stop criminals from getting guns. They know those are futile dreams.
Neither the ATF nor the DOJ care one itty bit about getting more people to obtain FFLs. In fact they go out of their way to rescind FFLs for the piddliest of reasons.
This is merely another tactic to give them the power to prosecute whoever they have on their radar for “dealing without a license”.
Dystopian novels weren’t meant to be instruction manuals, but 1984 and Atlas Shrugged sure do seem to be these days.
Ayn Rand (which we’ve read so many times before, but bears repeating):
There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed or enforced nor objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt.