Pizzagate IX
BY Herschel Smith
8 years ago
In shotgun fashion, I’m throwing out a number of things for your consideration.
Back in January of 2015, J. R. Dunn had a prescient piece entitled Pedophilia And The American Future at American Thinker. Read it all, and ask yourself the question, did you know about the extent of this back in 2015?
At Medium.com, Lori Handrahan has a piece entitled State Department Dan Rosen’s Arrest: Cheat Sheet For Journos. I notice that WRSA also picked this up. The article has an almost mind boggling list of recent arrests of other government employees for pedophilia. Read the list and look at their government stations. Warning. The article is very long because the list is very long.
Well looky, looky looky here what the boys and girls at Voat have dug up. James Alfantis – he goes by other names – of Comet Ping Pong is connected as business partners with Dr. Pong, a shady Berlin dive strongly suspected of the same sort of thing.
One painter, Scot G. Brooks, is a collaborator with a photographer, Todd Franson, who took pictures for James Alfantis. Here is a discussion of some of his work, with a one linked painting involving infants that will make you sick to your stomach if you care to look at it.
Here is a sordid discussion of these sorts of things at work in British history. Disgusting, isn’t it?
Finally, to close this installment out, I mentioned to you that I had been getting some interesting visits to my web site, including Pizzagate posts. These visits keep compounding: CIA, FBI Department of Criminal Justice, U.S. Senate, State Department, and on and on the list goes.
So I’ve been asking myself the question lately, why would these folks be interested in a small to medium size blog posting about “fake news?” You know, it’s all “fake.” So if it’s all “fake,” why would so many people in such positions be so interested to stop by my place on what is becoming a regular basis?
Prior:
On December 5, 2016 at 2:07 pm, Frank_in_Spokane said:
Looking forward to your comments re. the gunfire perpetrated at Comet Ping Pong yesterday by Edgar M. Welch, 28, of NC.
On December 5, 2016 at 2:08 pm, Frank_in_Spokane said:
Wait … there IS Breitbart …
On December 5, 2016 at 2:15 pm, Herschel Smith said:
It seems uninteresting to me. It isn’t related to my commentary, so I do not currently intend to comment on it.
On December 5, 2016 at 2:48 pm, Frank_in_Spokane said:
That strikes me as … well, strange.
You do 9 posts pertaining to Pizzagate / Comet Ping Pong / the Podestas / Alefantis, containing dozens of links.
But a guy (reportedly) goes with an AR and a handgun, fires off a few rounds and is arrested, and that rates as “uninteresting”? (I say “reportedly” because there are at least a few commenters out there suggesting that this didn’t happen, or at least, no shots were fired.)
I probably lean 60/40 in favor of believing the Pizzagate theory. One reason (among others) is, whenever it is mentioned in the “respectable” Interwebz or the lamestream media, they utterly dismiss it in the first breath. NPR: “A man with a rifle who claimed to be “self-investigating” a baseless online conspiracy theory entered the Washington, D.C., pizzeria Comet Ping Pong on Sunday, according to local police.” Wikipedia: Pizzagate, a 2016 conspiracy theory falsely claiming the existence of a child trafficking ring involving the Washington, D.C. restaurant Comet Ping Pong.”
That said, you might consider offering a commentary on the relationship between “fake” news (notice the air quotes) and the unhinged kookburgers ou there who might act on it. For example, see this (esp. the PPS at the very end):
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/05/leave-comet-ping-pong-alone/
On December 5, 2016 at 3:12 pm, Herschel Smith said:
But there are shootings every day everywhere. I have a limited time to do this. The Voat boys and girls have to work very hard to vet their information, some information is discarded after this process, some not, but it’s hard work. I see it as my job to see which data rises to the top, makes sense, connects with the data before it, and call attention to it.
I have no category “Volitional decisions people make about thus-and-so data.”
I do guns, politics, second amendment, prepping (to some small degree)etc. I just don’t see it as relevant to my coverage. I guess I could be persuaded differently. For example, let’s say that this individual saw something new that the Voat researchers had missed (some new painting, some new room, some discussion he had with employees, etc.). It might add to our data base and be newsworthy. Otherwise, it’s just a distraction
On December 5, 2016 at 4:51 pm, Frank_in_Spokane said:
[shrug] Okie doke, duly noted. Just thinking out loud.
On December 5, 2016 at 3:43 pm, StukaPilot said:
“60/40”? When an e-mail says, “we only have one slice of pizza for our next meeting, so we’ll be dividing it 5 ways”, do you actually believe for one nanosecond that the satanists involved are talking about actual pizza? As to NPR, it is a nest of reds, sodomites…and other Jews: pedophilia is expressly licensed in the Babylonian Talmud.
On December 5, 2016 at 5:03 pm, Frank_in_Spokane said:
Hey, you got me at 60/40. Whaddya want, a sworn oath that “I believe Pizzagate is real”?
I wouldn’t be surprised if it is real. If it is, it may be exposed by, or in spite of the Establishment Media. Or it may not. Not my circus, not my monkeys.
I’d be interested in your thoughts re. this piece by Joel McDurmon:
Of course it could be a conspiracy, but. . . . http://americanvision.org/13399/of-course-it-could-be-a-conspiracy-but/
“[O]ur God-given task is for ethical dominion and faithfulness no matter what, within our own God-given spheres. Pursuing endless conspiracy theories is, instead, a form of Gnosticism. It is pursuing hidden knowledge for knowledge’s sake, with the implicit belief that with enough of this particular knowledge you can improve society.”
If Pizzagate is true, I hope it will be exposed in this life. But if it isn’t, I am fully confident that it will be exposed in the next.
On December 5, 2016 at 5:17 pm, Herschel Smith said:
I took systematic theology and philosophy too. I don’t think the author understands Gnosticism, or a form thereof.
If true, and I assert that in all probability it is, it is the duty of the Christian to expose the evil as we are commanded to be salt and light.
And if God judges corporately, and He does, it is indeed your monkeys. Finally, I think the title “circus” is much too cavalier. The children are being brutalized. That’s no circus.
On December 5, 2016 at 11:21 pm, Frank_in_Spokane said:
You “took” ’em, I didn’t … and Joel McDurmon’s some kinda PhD. So, explain to me why “pursuing hidden knowledge for knowledge’s sake, with the implicit belief that with enough of this particular knowledge you can improve society” can NOT describe “a form of Gnosticism.”
I know there are conspiracies and conspirators. And I know their end — either reconciliation to God through the shed blood of the Son, or being dashed to pieces by the rod wielded by the Son (Psalm 2): Conspiracy — A Biblical View, by Gary North (JMcD’s father-in-law, interestingly): http://www.garynorth.com/Conspiracy-BiblicalView.pdf
If there’s evil going on in / around Comet Ping Pong (and mind you, I’m not asserting there isn’t), then I hope it DOES get exposed. But I’m not convinced I’m the one to expose it, since I live 2000+ miles away in the Inland Empire. I have my own garden to tend to.
As re. the corporate judgment of God, perhaps we should be looking a little closer to the Covenant (1 Peter 4:17).
Nevertheless, if there is darkness there, I hope the Lord can use you and others like you to expose it.
(Incidentally, what are your thoughts on SP’s comment re. “reds, sodomites…and other Jews,” earlier? I’m hardly an “Israel-phile,” but that strikes me as a little … uncalled for?)
On December 6, 2016 at 11:06 am, Herschel Smith said:
I don’t care if the author has 88 PhDs. Gnosticism isn’t pursuing knowledge for the sake of knowledge anyway. That’s a misrepresentation of Gnosticism, and it has no bearing on Pizzagate anyway because that isn’t what they’re doing.
The Gnostics were all about secret knowledge, not just knowledge. It was them and no one else, and their knowledge made them elite. There were penalties for divulging that knowledge to anyone outside their circle, and their “knowledge” had both redemptive and epistemological import. Their thinking was also still tied to Parmenides, Plato and Aristotle. Know anyone else like that (hint: think secret societies viz. Freemasonry, etc.)?
The researchers for Pizzagate at Voat want more than anything else for people to know and understand what’s going on. What they want to learn has investigative import, and they want to hold the guilty accountable. It has nothing to do with Gnosticism. Anyone who says that doesn’t understand philosophy and is using labels s/he doesn’t understand and that would get them an “F” in philosophy class. I hate to be so blunt, but there it is.
One may or may not like what the researchers at Voat are finding out, but you may as well label them purple people eaters – you might be more accurate than labeling them “Gnostics.”
As for Gary North, I have enjoyed SOME of his stuff, but I will always hold it against him that he and Rushdoony split. Good grief. Over what I consider small things. To Gary, no one is right but Gary. Even if what the split over proved Gary right on whatever issue, respecting elders comes into play and he should have let it go.
He also linked several of my pieces a few months ago and put it behind his own pay wall. It is extremely bad form to link or use someone else’s work (all rights reserved) and put it behind a pay wall where he can make money off of it. If I had wanted my work to be behind a pay wall I would put it behind a pay wall.
That’s all I’ve got time for right now.
On December 6, 2016 at 11:41 am, ApoloDoc said:
One significant problem in all of this is using ‘pedophilia’ in an overly broad sense. The meaning of words does matter! Pedophilia refers to sexual arousal to and sexual activities with prepubescent children. This is a deviant pattern of arousal and few adults actually respond this way. These are truly sick, evil people. Pizzagate is a very important story and needs to be fully investigated.
My concern is lumping in Epstein and others who are sexually involved with adolescents. Obviously this is illegal and immoral behavior, but is not pedophilia. Throughout almost all of human history, male and female adolescents have married and engaged in sexual relationships. Coercion, intimidation, and force make this immoral and criminal…but please understand it is not pedophilia. When overly broad usage of this concept occurs it threatens to ‘dilute’ the true meaning and may soften the view held by the public.
The linked American Thinker article badly conflates these separate activities (sex with underage but pubertal adolescents vs. sex with children). They link to a case mentioning a 17 y/o girl. It may be rape, coercion, corruption, or what have you, but it should never be called pedophilia.
On December 6, 2016 at 10:23 pm, suzanna said:
Captain,
Very good of you to be a model for investigators and to help the people at Voat.
I want to thank you. I have been an admirer of your work, and especially the
picture of your Dobie (2012) because I am a Dobe lover as well. So, thanks
and please do not let go of this.
Suzanna