Europe Is Finished
BY Herschel Smith
6 years, 10 months ago
Via reddit/r/firearms:
I’m a female in my early 30’s in a european country where guns are absolutely forbidden.
Whenever I talk to my friends and express my opinion about firearms they get ballistic and enraged about my views, calling me all sorts and seeing me as a paranoid monster who contributes with my views to gun related deaths and crimes. I think it makes them feel more sophisticated to hate arms.
The general ideology here is that guns are bad and it’s good they are forbidden for own sake.
But I don’t understand why I don’t have the right to protect myself should anything happen. Forks can also be used as a deadly weapon, and you don’t see them banned or made illegal. It’s about common sense. But why can a burglar get in my house to rob me and I can’t have the right to a gun for basic protection? How many women, and men, could have saved themselves had they had a gun? How many people raped could have shot their attacker had they had the right to own a gun?
Having a gun doesn’t mean I’m gonna use it lightly or gonna shoot someone in an argument or in the heat of the moment.
I just want a weapon to protect myself and my loved ones.
About 2 years back, while working in a bar, someone came in to rob us, yielding a knife, it was a very scary experience but luckily a couple of boys from the local rugby team were there for drinks and could manage to stop him, we called the police but the guy got away.During the chaos he repeatedly threatened to rape and kill my coworker and I and said he’d come back to get us.
The police didn’t do much since the guy got away, they just drove around in their car to see if they could find someone matching the description we gave.
And he indeed came back another day after closing the bar at night when we were alone, but my coworker saw him before he could get in and closed the bar doors, then called the police.
Until the police arrived he stayed outside throwing tables and chairs on the terrace against the bar window, banging on the door, screaming he was gonna rape and kill us and detailing how, calling us names, saying he had followed us home and knew where we live.
Again the police came with the sirens on, so the guy run away again. We told the police we feared he’d do something to us and they saw we had a few huge kitchen knives placed all over the bar counter for protection, they advised against it and said we could get in big trouble if we actually used the knives, so we asked if we could buy a couple of pepper sprays for protection, but the police informed us they were illegal to use and could again get us in trouble. Same with teasers or any other weapon for protection.
We went and bought a couple of pepper sprays anyway, we had to give our ID in the shop where they registered we had bought them, because they are legal to buy but illegal to use.
During the next weeks we were lucky to have friends who would stay in the bar with us at closing time and would walk us home. Both my coworker and I quit a couple of months later for unrelated reasons, but I’ll never forget what is like having to go to work fearing some crazy weirdo would attack or rape us. I didn’t mention he was identified by the rugby guys as one of the members of a local gang, which made it scarier. We felt real fear for our lives.
That’s when I started feeling more passionate about guns and the right to protect myself. How come some weirdo can come to rob us, threaten to kill and rape us, and our only protection measure is calling the police and hoping they catch him?
We couldn’t even protect ourselves with a pepper spray, how outrageous it is that someone could hurt me and I have to let him because I have no other means to protect myself? So, I very much envy other countries where people can feel safe should anything bad happen, they have the means to protect themselves and their families.
Now I carry a 5 inches pocket knife and a pepper spray in my purse at all times, even knowing if I got attacked and used it to defend myself, I could potentially end up in legal trouble. I’d also get in trouble if I’m randomly searched by the police, since it’s illegal to carry a knife. But I rather pay a fine than being raped and not having a weapon to defend myself. Again my friends think I’m dramatic and should I get raped or attacked that’s why we have a judicial system, to put them people in jail. And then they say you can’t live like a paranoid, living in fear. But don’t see it that way, I acknowledge crimes happen and to me, the logical measure is to have protection, I don’t think I’m a ‘paranoid’ I think I’m aware of the world I live in and my right to have protection should be respected and encouraged.
As as side note, someone in my town who also had a bar and lived above it, got robbed one night, when he heard noise downstairs and realized he was being robbed, he got a crowbar, went downstairs and beat the shit out of the thief, seriously damaging him, I don’t remember the details but the guy got sent to the hospital badly injured. Now guess who ended up in jail for a long time? The bar owner, for using excessive force and bludgeoning him. Nothing happened to the thief, nothing, no time, nothing!
The system is f***** up in my country and I am being denied the right to protect myself. The system is in favor of all the wrong people, giving them advantage by depriving us the right to own firearms.
Now, I’m not a gun fanatic, when I speak about this people compare me to gun fanatics and stereotype me. Now, I lean towards the left (if any), I respect everyone, I pay my taxes and do everything by the book, I work, pay my bills, you have your opinions, I have mine, mine are not better than yours, just mine. You have the right to believe what you want, so do I, but we both have the right to protect our family and loved ones.
Being pro-gun doesn’t make me a kkk hillbilly with no teeth.
The entire continent has lost its soul. They cannot even construct an argument for defense of their lives as being made in God’s image.
On January 24, 2018 at 10:40 am, Pat Hines said:
They have a novus ordo anti-pope and the heretical protestant churches all in support of white genocide.
I can’t be sure, it appears God is punishing native Europeans, that is white people, for their departure from Christ’s Church.
On January 24, 2018 at 11:02 am, Herschel Smith said:
@Pat,
And see, I would call the Roman church heretical. You and I part ways on this. And I most certainly don’t see the reformational doctrine as heretical. And I’m well aware of the philosophical problem of the “one and the many” within the ancient church, including your own.
It was settled at Nicea, and Athanasius won. Arius lost.
On January 24, 2018 at 11:20 am, Fred said:
I don’t know, Herschel, it seems that she has come to the realization that the state is not God. She is now carrying weapons in defiance of this false power. It’s a starting point anyway. She now knows that the state is sining against her and her people she just doesn’t say it that way. I would love to talk to her and ask her; “where does this right of self defense come from?” Maybe, just maybe, by the power of God she could be brought to the realization of Christ Jesus. Oh, sweet sweet woman, the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
On January 24, 2018 at 11:23 am, Herschel Smith said:
She’s swimming against the undertow Fred. The rest of the ocean will bury her along with all of Europe.
On January 24, 2018 at 12:26 pm, BFH said:
The woman is a classic example of a leftwing nitwit.
Why is everyone glossing over the part where she says she “leans left”?
STILL? Still, you lean left, you idiot?
You get what you vote for.
And if you can’t muster up the capacity to “lean right” I have no use for you.
When you continue to vote left, against your own interest of protecting your life, well, you’re as deranged as the “friends” you think are nuts.
On January 24, 2018 at 1:55 pm, June J said:
She thinks that she leans left because that’s how she was indoctrinated. She is probably more middle/right that she realizes. She has definitely woke to the realization that her country’s policies do not support freedom for its citizens.
Now, if she could recognize it was left leaning voting by her, her family and all her friends and their families that got her country to that point she would be on the way to being truly awake.
On January 24, 2018 at 3:13 pm, TheAlaskan said:
Where are your men? Why does this women have to “protect her family,” alone? Where are the men?
“Female in your early 30’s,” your government that has disarmed you, is made up of people. They have blood in their veins like you and if you smack them upside the head with the knowledge inspiring board, the 2×4, they’ll bleed as bad as you will, should you be assaulted by some criminal…who probably WILL be armed. Where are your men?
“Female in your early 30’s,” a gun is a tool like your “5 inches pocket knife,” or your pepper spray, or the crowbar used by “someone in my town.” All…just…tools. A gun has no connection to a “kkk hillbilly with no teeth” any more than pepper spray has a connection to eggs over easy. Where are your men?
“Female in your early 30’s,” your country has abandoned God, thereby forsaking your God-given right to be armed, indeed your DUTY (of men,) to be armed. Where are your men?
“Female in your early 30’s,” your future is bleak, as are those of your daughters. You have abandoned God and you have abandoned your men. Ask yourself, Why have we abandoned God? Where are our men? And of course, the first answers the last.
“Female in your early 30’s,” Where are your men?
On January 24, 2018 at 3:15 pm, Georgiaboy61 said:
What’s the old saying – “A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged”? This young woman is starting to see through the layers of indoctrination and political-correctness, but isn’t yet fully there. Far from ridiculing her, we should befriend her and help see that she arrives at the place she is headed – toward a genuine view of reality. To use the lingo of the young, she’s got the “red pill” of truth in her hand; she should be encouraged to take it.
On January 24, 2018 at 5:36 pm, Gryphon said:
Unless White European Men find their Balls and Get Busy, the musloid Invaders are going to Rape their Culture into oblivion. “politically incorrect”, I Know, but unless some folks like Jan Sobieski, Charlie Martel, and Vlad Tepes stand up and ‘Do what’s Neccessary’ all the White Nations of Western Europe will be Genocided.
They need to deal with their Traitorous Politicians, and the Bankers that Own their governments through Debt, first. Then the Streets can be Cleaned of the Invaders.
On January 25, 2018 at 4:23 am, TRUE LIBERTY said:
You get it, and you are the kind of people we actually want in America. Come on down, you are welcome anytime!
On January 25, 2018 at 8:00 am, SGT.BAG said:
I always ask women…….if your body is your business then how do you plan on defending your body if your anti-gun.
On January 26, 2018 at 12:55 am, Georgiaboy61 said:
Re: “Unless White European Men find their Balls and Get Busy, the musloid Invaders are going to Rape their Culture into oblivion. “politically incorrect”, I Know, but unless some folks like Jan Sobieski, Charlie Martel, and Vlad Tepes stand up and ‘Do what’s Neccessary’ all the White Nations of Western Europe will be Genocided.”
It’s tempting, I know, to take that point of view – but our disgust with European society and its apparent lack of courage ought to be tempered by the knowledge that we’re next on the menu. Once the soldiers of Allah have Europe under their control, they’ll move on to bigger game in the western hemisphere.
The decadent old societies of western Europe are falling now only because they are, on balance, in a more-advanced state of decay and thus easier to pick off for the Muslim jackals. The Muslim Brotherhood has had, for many years now, a strategic plan for the “civilization jihad” by which they plan to bring down the United States from within.
This is the so-called “explanatory memo” written in 1991 – a.k.a. “An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America” by Mohamed Adlouni of the Shura Council of the Muslim Brotherhood. This document expanded upon and codified the original plan, which dated to 1987.
Naysayers may scoff, but the Ikhwan have been remarkably successful in infiltrating western – including U.S. – political and other institutions, and now have men and women (who belong to the Muslim Sisterhood) in very high places inside the U.S. government. They have also been remarkably successful in coopting our institutions and organizations, ranging from the military and federal law-enforcement to colleges and universities to our immigration and naturalization system to putting up mosques and Islamic community centers at thousands of locations around the world – including a town or city near you.
Western civilization itself is under attack; the Europeans are just closer to the front lines at the moment. To paraphrase Leon Trotsky, “you may not be interested in war (Islamic jihad), but war (Islamic jihad) is interested in you.”
Americans feel a sense of security that Europeans do not, thanks largely to our tradition of the citizenry keeping/bearing arms. However, it is important to note that this war is being fought with a great variety of weapons by our enemies, some of which a gun does absolutely nothing to stop. It’s full-spectrum conflict, or what military theorists call 4GW (fourth generation war).
On January 27, 2018 at 1:51 am, Joshua Smith said:
I think we can make our points without quoting Trotsky. I mean, unless you have a neocon hard-on for him.
On January 27, 2018 at 10:15 pm, Tom said:
I assure u the people in power have armed guards protecting them.
On January 27, 2018 at 10:19 pm, Landroll said:
Dear Lady, PGA, Pure Grain Alcohol is a squeeze bottle and a cigarette lighter. If you see an attack beginning, offer a drink by squeezing the PGA over as much as you can. Then light the cigarette lighter. The effect will be astounding. Geez officer, I don’t know what happened. I offered him a drink andhe burst into flames.
On January 28, 2018 at 12:09 am, Georgiaboy61 said:
Re: “I think we can make our points without quoting Trotsky. I mean, unless you have a neocon hard-on for him.”
Delightful – an ad hominem attack. Is that the best you can do? I am not a neo-con, by the way, but about as far as one can get from it.
On January 28, 2018 at 6:32 am, Chuck Bronson said:
Georgia Boy61 says “this war is being fought with a great variety of weapons by our enemies, some of which a gun does absolutely nothing to stop”. Now see GB61, there’s that defeatist European mindset of “they’ll eventually win because we cannot stop them with guns”..That is total and complete horseshit. Those “weapons” you speak about are ONLY effective against those sheeple that continue to fight or resist the Mohammedans within the framework of “the law”. You have to snap out of that mindset. If and when another “Hillary” comes along, takes the reins of the federal gov’t and begins to actively enforce Communist or Socialist/Isamofacist ideology and dismantle our Constitution – THAT is when we, the Constitutionalists, the White Christian Warriors then “organize, identify targets, mission plan, write up OP Orders, and launch” . It will be no holds barred. All Politicians, LEO, Judges, Media personnel, Activists etc..that have enabled these savages will be eliminated, as will their families.. We, the real defenders of liberty will not operate under some “legal framework” and their “Writs, decrees, public policies, announcements, etc..will not stop the determined efforts of freedom loving violent men and women. How do I know this? Because I spent almost 30 years of my life dedicated to those principles of Unconventional Warfare while wearing a US Army uniform, and the past 5 years planning and preparing to command such an outfit as a “civilian”.
On January 28, 2018 at 8:55 am, John said:
@ Georgiaboy61
The paraphrase was perfect. I’ve used Lenin’s description “Useful Fools” ten thousand-plus times since I read it in the 1970’s and no one was either stupid enough nor had the gall to call me a Leninist afterward.
On January 28, 2018 at 9:08 am, RR said:
“Come on down/in”? US will never let her kind in. Haven’t in decades. Look up where all the most immigrants come from in each state. Not Europe. Wake up men. It’s happening right down your street.
On January 28, 2018 at 10:42 am, Anonymous said:
Dear yuropoor,
Let me explain the horrifying truth to you in two simple words: TERRORISM WORKS. The reason your police, courts, and politicians protect the rapefugee while prosecuting you for defending yourself is because the rapefugee is 10,000x more likely to burn down Parliament. If you want your government to respect you, they must first FEAR YOU. And I don’t mean in some abstract sense related to electoral outcomes. I mean make them fear for their fucking miserable lives. Until then, you will remain the whipping boy for their numerous failures.
On January 28, 2018 at 12:41 pm, Sean said:
islam delenda est.
On January 28, 2018 at 1:56 pm, revjen45 said:
In WW2 Britain asked for the people of the U.S. for guns to fight the expected invasion. If the Euro-Weenies do it again I won’t be sending any of mine, since I will be needing them.