New Jersey Gun Confiscations
BY Herschel Smith6 years, 4 months ago
Before judging him for that, consider the environment that is New Jersey. Then consider the overwhelming force the state can bring to bear, and its predisposition to using it, especially if it’s to enforce citizen disarmament. It’s easy to anonymously declare “Molon Labe” on the internet. In meatspace, resistance is more effective when the aggressor doesn’t get to dictate the time and place, especially if that place is your home and you have family inside.
Oh sure, I’ve got that. I’m not sure if and when he’ll ever get them back, though, or how this ends.
Throwing down with a SWAT team in your front doorstep isn’t a good option. When it comes to it, 4GW will be necessary to end this infringement.
In the mean time, I’m not sure why any thinking man would choose to live in New Jersey. As for the cops, they are swine. Every one of them who participated in this, and all of their colleagues back at the station since they allow this sort of thing to happen.
I guess that includes all of them since I folded in both the participants and the non-participants.
On July 16, 2018 at 2:43 am, DAN III said:
I say again:
There are no good cops.
On July 16, 2018 at 7:00 am, Gryphon said:
Dan – Yes there are – after they are Disarmed and Disbanded. (and a lot of them left Swinging from the nearest Lamppost)
4G War is the Only Way this comes to a Conclusion.
On July 16, 2018 at 7:19 am, DAN III said:
Gryphon @ 0700,
“4G War is the Only Way this comes to a Conclusion.”
Agreed. That is something I have believed for a dozen years now.
On July 16, 2018 at 8:56 am, Michael said:
Heh, well there’s a reason I refer to New Jersey as “The Garbage State”.
On July 16, 2018 at 12:44 pm, Gryphon said:
Much Less of this seems to go on where there is only an Elected Sheriff and Volunteer Deputies, compared to where there is po-Lice acting as Revenue Officers for the Bureaucracy…
Except maybe in places like Coward County FL…
On July 16, 2018 at 1:30 pm, moe mensale said:
Not defending the cops at all but I think the bigger issue here is the nosey pussy-hat wearing soccer mom and pajama-boy dad who should have asked the original boys to clarify what they were talking about before dragging the school and the cops into it.
On July 16, 2018 at 1:33 pm, Herschel Smith said:
But if the cops and schools listen to “nosey pussy-hat wearing soccer mom and pajama-boy dad[s],” as they always do, then act on it, we have a problem.
And they do, and we do. Remember, half of the country is filled with controllers who pine after someone better than them to control them.
On July 16, 2018 at 1:33 pm, moe mensale said:
@Gryphon,
While elected sheriffs are somewhat more accountable to the citizens, they are still political animals. Don’t think for a second that the sheriff of some major blue leftist county isn’t going to espouse the major viewpoints of his constituency.
On July 16, 2018 at 1:39 pm, moe mensale said:
@Herschel,
That’s why I said they should have asked for clarification instead of pushing it up 2 or 3 notches. But soccer moms and pajama dads have shown themselves to be thorns. They have the potential to become major problems down the road. Just like the quislings in wartime France and Germany.
On July 16, 2018 at 8:07 pm, Ben338 said:
It’s easy to understand why the school and police did what they did when you look at it from their perspective and consider what their motives are likely to be. When they get the call that there is a potential problem, they are going to act as if they believe it every time. Consider the possible errors in their decision matrix: if they believe the call when they should not, there is no consequence to them; if they don’t believe it when they should have, there will be no end to the recriminations, lawsuits, etc. This does not make it right that they did what they did, but in today’s climate, it sometimes takes a great deal of courage and guts to do what’s right. (Of course, knowing none of the underlying facts, I have to acknowledge that it is at least possible that the guns should have been removed from the proximity of the child).