The Pillars Of Gun Confiscations
BY Herschel Smith5 years, 9 months ago
From someone who has studied it.
“Registration is a pillar of gun control and has been in 150 countries for a century and a half,” he said.
“The first pillar is licensing … then you register the object … and then you make it clear that ownership of a firearm is a conditional privilege, which can be taken away.”
He said all three pillars were absent in the US, in NZ two pillars existed – strong licensing and a definite rejection of the right to bear arms.
“The middle pillar, the third leg on the stool if you like – registration – simply doesn’t exist in New Zealand … so like a two legged stool it’s an unreliable object.”
Statists the world over agree.
The only way we can truly be safe and prevent further gun violence is to ban civilian ownership of all guns. That means everything. No pistols, no revolvers, no semiautomatic or automatic rifles. No bolt action. No breaking actions or falling blocks. Nothing. This is the only thing that we can possibly do to keep our children safe from both mass murder and common street violence.
Unfortunately, right now we can’t. The political will is there, but the institutions are not. Honestly, this is a good thing. If we passed a law tomorrow banning all firearms, we would have massive noncompliance. What we need to do is establish the regulatory and informational institutions first. This is how we do it:
The very first thing we need is national registry. We need to know where the guns are, and who has them. Canada has a national firearms registry. We need to copy their model. We need a law demanding all firearms be registered to a national database. We need to know who has them and where they are. We need to make this as easy as possible for gun owners. The federal government provides the money and technical expertise, and the State police carry it out. Like a funded mandate. Most firearms already have a serial number on them, so it would really be a matter of taking the information already on the ATF form 4473 and putting it in a national database. I think about 6 months should be enough time.
Along with this, make private sales illegal. When a firearm is transferred, make it law that the registration must be updated. Again, make it super easy to do. Perhaps over, the internet. Dealers can log in by their FFLs and update the registration. Additionally, new guns are to be registered by the manufacturer. The object here is to create a clear paper trail from factory to distributor to dealer to owner. We want to encourage as much voluntary compliance as possible.
Now we get down to it. The registration period has passed. Now we have criminals without registered guns running around. Probably kooky types that “lost” them on a boat or something. So remember those ATF form 4473s? Those record every firearm sale, going back twenty years. And those have to be surrendered to the ATF on demand. So, we get those logbooks, and cross reference the names and addresses with the new national registry. Since most NRA types own two or (many) more guns, we can get an idea of who properly registered their guns and who didn’t. For example, if we have a guy who purchased 6 guns over the course of 10 years, but only registered two of them, that raises a red flag.
Now, maybe he sold them or they got lost or something. But it gives us a good target for investigation. A nice visit by the ATF or state police to find out if he really does still have those guns would be certainly warranted. It’s certainly not perfect. People may have gotten guns from parents or family, and not registered them. Perfect is the enemy of pretty darn good, as they say. This exercise isn’t so much to track down every gun ever sold; the main idea would be to profile and investigate people that may not have registered their guns. As an example, I’m not so concerned with the guy who bought that bolt action Mauser a decade ago and doesn’t have anything registered to his name. It’s a pretty good possibility that he sold it, gave it away, or got rid of it somehow. And even if he didn’t, that guy is not who I’m concerned with. I’m concerned that other guy who bought a half dozen assault weapons, registered two hunting rifles, and belongs to the NRA/GOA. He’s the guy who warrants a raid.
I don’t think the first author is correct, as it depends upon which state you live in and whether form 4473s have been made electronic and retrievable.
In any case, that is how they intend to do it. Remember those words: “We need to make this as easy as possible for gun owners.”
On March 25, 2019 at 7:47 am, ambiguousfrog said:
I read the second guys thread. What a tyrant. Intoxicated by the thought Obama was going to be able to do it for him. He’s probably twisted in knots today if Trump has more picks on the SC. The scary part is these people exist. He’s convinced he’s right since he will save lives. As he states good vs bad gun owners. The harder they push, the more hardened oppossers become. Amazing, I can be law abiding today and a felon tomorrow based on his logic. I suspect not too many people would be okay with that label. He’d be the type to say Trump is Hitler but, we should get rid of guns.
On March 25, 2019 at 8:00 am, Joe P said:
Long guns (rifles and shotguns) no longer registered. Cost to much money and was only tracking the good guys.
Handguns have been registered for over 50 years.
Bad guys not registering handguns nor acquiring a firearms license.
Those arrested do little jail time. Maybe 1% arrested legal firearm owners.
On March 25, 2019 at 9:20 am, Donk said:
Seems like of late most of my heated discussions with the general public are happening at the local dog park. Recently, a guy who has the same breed of dog as mine who, heretofor thought I was a “good dude,” changed his mind quite radically when he saw my T-Shirt advocating for AR15 ownership and that complainers were “whiny little be-autches (sp?).” He came unglued, literally had spittle coming out of his mouth spewing the tired old mantras of “weapon of war,” “what do you need it for – armageddon,” “gonna get a bunch of kids killed,” etc. I told him; 1) one cannot control what others do and that was his primary interest – people control, 2) all gun control was both illegal and immoral and 3) it was none of his business and to bugger off. It was delicious to see him drop the facade and reveal his true Yankee tyrant self and spin himself into the ground when I called him on it.
On March 25, 2019 at 11:59 am, billrla said:
Donk: Best to limit dog-park discussions to dogs. By which I mean, only talk to the dogs, not the humans.
On March 25, 2019 at 12:13 pm, elysianfield said:
If law enforcement comes to your home with questions regarding 2nd Amendment matters…smile, be respectful, answer no questions.
“I’m sorry sir, but I will respectfully not discuss those matters….”
On March 25, 2019 at 3:15 pm, ExpatNJ said:
And, when in doubt, fire your sub-contractors:
Father of 6-year-old Sandy Hook shooting victim dead of apparent suicide
http://www.wbrc.com/2019/03/25/father-year-old-sandy-hook-shooting-victim-found-dead-connecticut/
On March 25, 2019 at 6:39 pm, dad29 said:
I thought Canada gave up on their registry after spending a $Zillion and getting nowhere.
On March 26, 2019 at 7:56 am, Blake said:
The common theme between all of these would be tyrants: They want to send out people with guns to take away guns while being unwilling to do the deed themselves.